MI MI - Julia Niswender, 23, EMU student, Ypsilanti, 10 Dec 2012 - #3

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Just sitting here in my home office on a mild San Fran Bay evening, and catching up on this thread.
There is so much at stake with this case!

We have Julia, the victim of this thread. Pretty, smart, ambitious, bubbly, and a much loved friend, twin, sister, daughter, and granddaughter. It's very hard trying to imagine anyone wanting to harm this human ray of sunshine.

We have a stepfather who has been named a POI in Julia's murder, and has a separate child *advertiser censored* case going to trial in June.

We have a mother, twin, sister, and many friends of the POI who are enraged that he is being considered as someone even remotely involved in her murder. They are vigorously defending him. Not only are they having to deal with the grief of losing Julia, but now the nightmare of the charges against their husband, father, friend.

We have grandparents who have been told by LE that their son-in-law is a POI in their granddaughters death, and they know he has separate charges related to child *advertiser censored*. Not only are they grieving the loss of their granddaughter, but they are now fearful for the safety of their daughter, and granddaughters. All of this is aggravated by the strain of differing viewpoints about the POI amongst different family members.

And then there is murdered family friend, Chelsea Bruck, whose body was recently discovered. Is Chelsea's murder tied to Julia's?

There are many, many questions to be answered, but one thing is very clear. This family is in horrible pain, and understandably so. Frankly, despite appearances, I think they have been holding up pretty well considering the enormity of what has/is happening.

While we can all sleuth and come up with theories, LE will afford the POI due process, and justice will be served. I am confident that will happen, as I know massive resources have been put against this investigation, with superb LE specialists. All the posturing and deflection or opinion will not matter. Just the facts, just the truth. Innocent or guilty, there will be clarity.

So where does that leave those of us here trying to help? It leaves us with letting LE give the POI his due process. It leaves us with continuing to focus on those connections that we can find that might uncover very relevant leads. And we are.

But most of all, it leaves us with heartbroken people who need our ongoing prayers and respect.
They have mine.
 
EMU has a list of the media coverage broken up by month and year.

Media Coverage
In an effort to keep the EMU community as informed as possible, we've aggregated this list of media coverage on the death of student Julia Niswender and the investigation being conducted by the Ypsilanti Police Department. We will add stories as they are published.
http://www.emich.edu/investigation/media.php?p=1
 
EMU has a list of the media coverage broken up by month and year.

Media Coverage
In an effort to keep the EMU community as informed as possible, we've aggregated this list of media coverage on the death of student Julia Niswender and the investigation being conducted by the Ypsilanti Police Department. We will add stories as they are published.
http://www.emich.edu/investigation/media.php?p=1

Amazing resource and much easier to navigate. Thank you for posting it Tiger. Could you likewise post it to the media thread, for handy reference?

:cheers:
 
OKAY no more skirting around all of this issue of who made the allegation and who was the accuser. From what we GRANDPARENTS recall, that the report came from the twins school. Evidently they noticed certain marks, bruises and behavior changes on Julia. Teacher's reported them, Julia was questioned, and CPS was called.
Why would Julia say this stuff to teachers and CPS, and then her own MOM, JT and sister deny that there was any abuse.
REMEMBER, we are seeking Justice for Julia, we want the truth to come out, and no MORE lies or coverups!!!
Just to clarify. With "Evidently ...." do you mean that you think that there probably were marks & bruises, or do you know this as a fact?
 
The key was never found. It may be possible the perp locked themselves out of Julia's room, left the radio or something on to make it sound like she was there. A roommate, who had been in and out all weekend, as it was finals and most were away, after noticing Julia's car hadn't moved since Sunday, the door was locked, called school security, who called police for a welfare check. LE opened her door first. Kim then came, driven by a friend from her night out, Turnquist and the youngest who were home were said to join them afterwards. None of the family was permitted in her room as they arrived at the scene. The last time she was heard from was by Jen based on text Sunday night. I'm not sure that we know or it had been reported where Jen was or when she came to the scene. I do recall Chelsea's sister's account of the night, having been around to console Jen, then having Chelsea cuddle her own sister to sleep as she had returned from the scene devastated by the evil she felt that touched them all that night. Of course, I mess things up, so Trojan may take pity on me and set it straight if I have it wrong.

Jennifer arrived on the scene with her mom, Kim. They had been playing darts at a bar prior to getting the call from a friend or roommate. Kim and Jen then proceeded to Ypsilanti with a friend who drove them. Kim called JT and he then left their house with the minor child and headed to Julia's. I hope this gives you the info you wanted.
 
Just to clarify. With "Evidently ...." do you mean that you think that there probably were marks & bruises, or do you know this as a fact?

As I have been told, a teacher noticed some "marks" on Julia, then questioned her and ended up taking Julia to the office. Once to the office, the ball started rolling
! DPS was involved and eventually there was even a visit to their home (apartment).
 
As I have been told, a teacher noticed some "marks" on Julia, then questioned her and ended up taking Julia to the office. Once to the office, the ball started rolling
! DPS was involved and eventually there was even a visit to their home (apartment).
Who told you this? Was it Julia's mother, grandmother, the school?
 
Back in April, the Duvall Group suspended their $10,000 reward, in light of Turnquist being named a POI in Julia's murder.

Any idea if the $5,000 committed by Crime Stoppers and EMU ($2,500 each) is still being offered?

I think that crimestoppers update their website regularly and the $5,000 is still there.
http://www.1800speakup.org/julia-niswender/
I am not sure about the EMU reward, but I think it probably is still there. I think it is unusual that a reward is suspended before there is even a suspect. Does the Duvall group think that it is no longer necessary for people to speak up?
 
I think that crimestoppers update their website regularly and the $5,000 is still there.
http://www.1800speakup.org/julia-niswender/
I am not sure about the EMU reward, but I think it probably is still there. I think it is unusual that a reward is suspended before there is even a suspect. Does the Duvall group think that it is no longer necessary for people to speak up?

BBM

I believe the insinuation was that the money could be used to defend JT from allegations of any wrongdoing. The lawyer the family hired cannot have come cheap. IMHO, No facts here. I linked the article upthread. Duvall IIRC is a friend of the family.

fwiw
 
BBM

I believe the insinuation was that the money could be used to defend JT from allegations of any wrongdoing. The lawyer the family hired cannot have come cheap. IMHO, No facts here. I linked the article upthread. Duvall IIRC is a friend of the family.

fwiw

I do not understand this. I think that the Duvall group did not just hand over $10,000 to the Turnquist family or his lawyer. I presume the Duvall group would still have control over which tips would be rewarded and how much. Or perhaps they agreed to match the payout of crime-stoppers. For example, if crimestoppers pays out $500, the Duvall group would pay $1000. Surely, crimestoppers wouldn't be easily conned by a cunning lawyer. I don't think the reward money could ever end up in the "Turnquist defense fund".
Of course, it could be possible that someone provides evidence that incriminates a person other than James Turnquist. Is that what they are trying to avoid?
 
Remember - The Duvall group is owned by Grandma Rose's personal friend - The chances of him giving money to JT's defense - I would say it's pretty obvious....is not very high!
 
Who told you this? Was it Julia's mother, grandmother, the school?

Julia's mom told me the story plus the grandmother went to the school with Kim to "vouch" for Jim as a character reference. At the time, no one told the grandmother exactly what Julia had said, they just asked a few questions concerning Jim. The grandmother, at that time, did as Kim requested and said he was OK. Later, DPS did send someone to their apartment as me and my wife were visiting their apartment for dinner and Kim mentioned that DPS would be visiting her tomorrow.
 
I do not understand this. I think that the Duvall group did not just hand over $10,000 to the Turnquist family or his lawyer. I presume the Duvall group would still have control over which tips would be rewarded and how much. Or perhaps they agreed to match the payout of crime-stoppers. For example, if crimestoppers pays out $500, the Duvall group would pay $1000. Surely, crimestoppers wouldn't be easily conned by a cunning lawyer. I don't think the reward money could ever end up in the "Turnquist defense fund".
Of course, it could be possible that someone provides evidence that incriminates a person other than James Turnquist. Is that what they are trying to avoid?

The Duvall group "pulled" the reward because of what JT was charged with. They did not want anyone to construe that they supported him or child *advertiser censored* in any way. They did this on their own and only informed the grandmother of their decision. They have money set aside to be used for rewards to information concerning crimes and they felt with JT being a POI in Julia's case that they would remove the reward. MIMOMMY has mentioned something about supporting JT's defense....... Well, any money raised for the Justice for Julia account should not be used for his defense fund. I hope it isn't because there could be more legal issues with it being used for that. I don't believe it is but just putting this out there for everyone to think about. I'm sure MIMOMMY will have some comments!
 
I think that crimestoppers update their website regularly and the $5,000 is still there.
http://www.1800speakup.org/julia-niswender/
I am not sure about the EMU reward, but I think it probably is still there. I think it is unusual that a reward is suspended before there is even a suspect. Does the Duvall group think that it is no longer necessary for people to speak up?

BBM

I believe the insinuation was that the money could be used to defend JT from allegations of any wrongdoing. The lawyer the family hired cannot have come cheap. IMHO, No facts here. I linked the article upthread. Duvall IIRC is a friend of the family.

fwiw

I do not understand this. I think that the Duvall group did not just hand over $10,000 to the Turnquist family or his lawyer. I presume the Duvall group would still have control over which tips would be rewarded and how much. Or perhaps they agreed to match the payout of crime-stoppers. For example, if crimestoppers pays out $500, the Duvall group would pay $1000. Surely, crimestoppers wouldn't be easily conned by a cunning lawyer. I don't think the reward money could ever end up in the "Turnquist defense fund".
Of course, it could be possible that someone provides evidence that incriminates a person other than James Turnquist. Is that what they are trying to avoid?

Ryan Duvall gave his reason in the link I had posted.


Report: Reward suspended in Julia Niswender homicide investigation
By John Counts | johncounts@mlive.com
on April 24, 2015 at 5:47 PM
Ryan Duvall of Duvall Group Investigations in Monroe has ceased offering a $10,000 reward for information in the death of Eastern Michigan University student Julia Niswender, according to a report in the Monroe News.

Duvall told the newspaper that Niswender's stepfather, James Turnquist, being named a person of interest in the case played a "big part" in his decision.

"That reward money can be used for other things," he told the Monroe News."There are a lot of foundations that need this."


http://www.mlive.com/news/ann-arbor/index.ssf/2015/04/report_monroe_man_suspends_rew.html

BBM
 
I do not understand this. I think that the Duvall group did not just hand over $10,000 to the Turnquist family or his lawyer. I presume the Duvall group would still have control over which tips would be rewarded and how much. Or perhaps they agreed to match the payout of crime-stoppers. For example, if crimestoppers pays out $500, the Duvall group would pay $1000. Surely, crimestoppers wouldn't be easily conned by a cunning lawyer. I don't think the reward money could ever end up in the "Turnquist defense fund".
Of course, it could be possible that someone provides evidence that incriminates a person other than James Turnquist. Is that what they are trying to avoid?

B_S I don't recall suggesting what you've stated above. The money that was earmarked for reward money, has instead gone to some other (unknown) cause. The article isn't clear which other (unknown) source needed funding.

You would have to ask the family, the Duvall group, JT or whomever else IF that money is now being used to defend JT. As I said, I felt this was insinuated and was an OPINION I had. Pretty sure I can have one of those.
 
It would be easy to document if or if not monies were used out the Justice for Julia fund for such a large amount of money. I'm guessing not even a dime has been used.
 
The Duvall group "pulled" the reward because of what JT was charged with. They did not want anyone to construe that they supported him or child *advertiser censored* in any way. They did this on their own and only informed the grandmother of their decision. They have money set aside to be used for rewards to information concerning crimes and they felt with JT being a POI in Julia's case that they would remove the reward. MIMOMMY has mentioned something about supporting JT's defense....... Well, any money raised for the Justice for Julia account should not be used for his defense fund. I hope it isn't because there could be more legal issues with it being used for that. I don't believe it is but just putting this out there for everyone to think about. I'm sure MIMOMMY will have some comments!

Speaking of the money raised for the Justice for Julia account, is that a separate account from the $15,000 Julia Catherine Niswender Endowed TWIN Scholarship or one in the same? The article mentioning the $15,000 was from August 2013, so would it be safe to say more money has been raised since that time?

Read more at: http://www.monroenews.com/news/2013/aug/18/remembering-julia-15000-raised-niswender-scholarsh/
 
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