Moscow- at least 40 dead, 100 injured in an attack in a music hall. 5 gunman, multiple explosions

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MassGuy said:
The state department warned Americans to stay away from mass gatherings in Russia, a couple weeks ago. Reports at the time pointed to threats from an ISIS offshoot.
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Two weeks ago - "Terror attack likely in Moscow today, UK and US warn"
 
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U.S. warns of imminent Moscow attack by 'extremists,' urges citizens to avoid crowds

The U.S. Embassy said it was “monitoring reports that extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings in Moscow."
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But Russia's FSB security service said Thursday that it had foiled a planned attack by an Afghan offshoot of the Islamic State terrorist group on a synagogue in the Kaluga region, southwest of Moscow.
"On the territory of the Kaluga Region, a stop was put to the activity of Wilayat Khorasan, a cell of the Afghan branch of the international terrorist organization Islamic State, which is banned in Russia, whose members were planning to commit a terrorist act against one of the Jewish religious institutions in Moscow," the FSB said in a statement given to the state-run Tass news agency.


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Gunmen 'in camouflage' open fire on crowd in Moscow concert hall

Gunmen opened fire at a rock concert in a Moscow suburb Friday killing at least 40 people, wounding 100 and setting off an inferno in the theatre, authorities said.
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Weeks ago both the British and US embassies in Moscow warned about the risk of attacks from 'extremists' in the Russian capital and advised people to avoid crowded areas.

Looks like a similar group with possibly the same goals as W. Khorasan, were successful this time at the concert hall ?
Some terrorist groups will not stop even if their own members are killed.

Fwiw, I agree with the sentiments that neither Nalvany's supporters nor the Ukraine were behind this.
What would that have served ?

Rest in peace to those who lost their lives.
Sounds like the death toll will be much higher than the initial count of forty victims.
So sorry for the wounded ... their only goal was to get out and enjoy a fun night of music.
:(
Omo.
 
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Islamic State group claims responsibility for Moscow mass shooting that left dozens dead. Here's what we know.

Several gunmen opened fire at a popular concert hall on the outskirts of Moscow, Russian state news agencies reported Friday.
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The Islamic State group claimed responsibility for Friday's mass shooting at a popular concert hall on the outskirts of Moscow that left dozens dead an injured more than 100 others, the Associated Press reported.

ISIS, which the United States has designated as a terrorist group, said in a message posted Friday night to the Telegram messaging app that it had “attacked a large gathering… on the outskirts of the Russian capital Moscow," and that the attackers had "retreated to their bases safely," according to the Moscow Times. Those claims could not be independently verified, however.
Bolding mine.

First bolded: Afaik; Russia has also designated Isis to be a terror group as well ?

Second bolded: That's concerning, if true.
So they'll be planning another attack ?
Omo.
 
19:43

How will the Kremlin respond?​

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Gordon Corera
Security correspondent, BBC News

The statement from so-called Islamic State (IS) saying they were behind the attack came out on one of the group's official accounts.

That is not absolute confirmation - sometimes IS has issued false claims - however, a US official has told CBS, the BBC's US partner, that it has intelligence confirming the IS claim that it carried out the attack.

The nature of the assault –marauding gunmen killing as many civilians as possible – is typical of the way they operate. There are similarities, for instance, to the Bataclan attacks at a concert in Paris back in 2015 linked to the group.

The question of who was behind today's attack is highly charged because of the international context. Ukrainian officials - and their allies - are clearly worried Kyiv might be blamed by Moscow.

There is also the question of the US warning on 7 March about "extremists" attacking concerts. That public warning - based almost certainly on intelligence - appears to have been dismissed by Russian officials.

And so while there are always questions about who was behind an attack and if it could have been prevented, this time the pressure on Moscow may be more intense to see what they say and how they respond.
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19:53

No reason to doubt IS claim - US official​

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Sarah Smith
North America editor

American officials have been quick to confirm that the US has intelligence confirming the Islamic State claim it carried out the attack in Moscow.

The BBC’s US news partner CBS has spoken to a source familiar with the intelligence, who says there has been a steady stream of information - dating back to November - about IS wanting to strike in Russia.

Some highly specific information was passed on to the Russian government, despite the frosty relations between Washington and Moscow.

It has not been confirmed, but it is likely, that this is information that was referred to in the state department warning two weeks ago: Americans in Moscow were told to avoid large gatherings, and specifically warned about concerts.

The State Department said the US was "monitoring reports that extremists have imminent plans to target large gatherings”. The warning did not at that time name the group it was referring to.
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Warwick1991 said:
This reminds me of the theater attack on Moscow that occurred in 2002. There were over 850 hostages. The authorities there tried a novel approach, using an incapacitating drug in an aerosol form. Although many hostages survived, the drug apparently caused the deaths of some of the hostages.
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IIRC, they pumped some kind of anesthetic gas in there. They did what they had to.
 
airportwoman said:
IIRC, they pumped some kind of anesthetic gas in there. They did what they had to.
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Yes, a gas containing fentanyl. They refused to disclose to emergency personnel what was in the gas, which meant an incredible amount of unnecessary deaths. The victims being positioned incorrectly also led to the deaths of dozens of people who may have otherwise survived. They killed something like 130 hostages, but that number is speculated to be quite a bit higher.

Here it looks like they completely ignored warnings of an imminent attack, with Putin mocking it a few days ago.
 
22:33

White House: we warned Russia earlier this month​

More from the US now, as the White House confirms that it warned Russian authorities earlier in March about an attack possibly targeting "large gatherings" in Moscow.

"Earlier this month, the US government had information about a planned terrorist attack in Moscow - potentially targeting large gatherings, to include concerts," National Security Council spokeswoman Adrienne Watson said.

Washington "shared this information with Russian authorities", she added.

Gordon Corera, the BBC's security correspondent, earlier stated that the Kremlin shrugged these warnings off as "propaganda" - even after the US made its concerns public to Americans staying in Russia.
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Why would Islamic State attack Russia?

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But the specific group that has claimed today’s attack, ISIS-K, is the Islamic State affiliate in Khorasan - an old term for a region that includes parts of Iran, Turkmenistan and Afghanistan.

Counterterrorism experts say Russia has found itself “in the crosshairs” of ISIS-K, which frequently criticises President Putin in its propaganda.

It accuses the Kremlin of atrocities against Muslim people in military campaigns in Chechnya and Syria, as well as in the Soviet-era invasion of Afghanistan.
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23:25

'Mourn' billboards appear across Moscow​

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Steve Rosenberg
BBC Russia editor
A billboard in Moscow showing a candle and the word skorbim, meaning we mourn
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Billboards across Moscow are paying tribute to the victimsImage caption: Billboards across Moscow are paying tribute to the victims
The "mourn" messages seen outside the venue have been replicated elsewhere in Moscow. All those I passed on my way home from work were showing the candle and the word "skorbim", along with the date of the attack.
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MassGuy said:
Yes, a gas containing fentanyl. They refused to disclose to emergency personnel what was in the gas, which meant an incredible amount of unnecessary deaths. The victims being positioned incorrectly also led to the deaths of dozens of people who may have otherwise survived. They killed something like 130 hostages, but that number is speculated to be quite a bit higher.

Here it looks like they completely ignored warnings of an imminent attack, with Putin mocking it a few days ago.
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It was too convenient for him not to ignore it.
 
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