johnny
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Maybe if his family could convince him to tell them and they would get a reward?
ND - Dru Sjodin, 22, Grand Forks, 22 Nov 2003 - #2
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johnny
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We need to put tracking devices on these sexual offenders and have some sort of alarm system if they are near malls, schools, or places that choose to have a locater.
Love_Mama
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Just on Fox news......last woman that Alphonso attacked was on and was asked some questions. She by the way knew him and his family. She said that all of the time she knew him he was a quiet person. She was then asked what kind of person did he act like when he attacked her. She said he became very extremely violent! She got away from him even though he had tried to knife her but the knife only went into her thigh.
Then they interviewed the judge who sent him away. He said that he had asked the judge for the most severe sentence...which would have been 20 years.
Because Alphonso had 3 more years due on another sentence, they were added to make it a total of 23 years. The prosecuting attorney felt that he would have liked to have had a much longer sentence.
Then they (She) interviewed a friend of his in Elementary school. Not necessarly a friend but someone who knew who he was. His only comment's were that Alphonso was very quiet.
I can't think of the woman's name that interviewed them. She has the show with an audience in it........
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Then they interviewed the judge who sent him away. He said that he had asked the judge for the most severe sentence...which would have been 20 years.
Because Alphonso had 3 more years due on another sentence, they were added to make it a total of 23 years. The prosecuting attorney felt that he would have liked to have had a much longer sentence.
Then they (She) interviewed a friend of his in Elementary school. Not necessarly a friend but someone who knew who he was. His only comment's were that Alphonso was very quiet.
I can't think of the woman's name that interviewed them. She has the show with an audience in it........
xxxxxxooo
mama
starpatch
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Just think of all of the people braving the cold adverse conditions out there to search for Dru, all the while that dirty SOB sits snug in his warm cell...waiting for his food to be hand carried to him....
He has NO concern about any one but himself....a true sociopath!:banghead:
Bailey1
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There is no doubt in my mind this LETCH hurt and overpowered Dru...but it still confuses me when I look at this SHORT, FAT, Balding piece of mince meat could do such a thing in the middle of afternoon (5p is not that late) AND at a mall at one of the busiest times of the year.
The question is not that he did this but how? I can only suspect he threatened her w/a knife or just bulldozed her from behind in a fatass frenzy?
Dru was just shy over 5ft but she is younger. If we learn something from this is you DON'T BARGAIN when attacked or provked..YOU ATTACK BACK AND MAKE A HUGE SCENE. That is what I tell my daughter. Knife or no knife. Only difference is if they approach quietly and ask for a bag or something..DO IT. Sometimes they just use a weapon to scare. But if they ask you to go w/them or try to use force on you....KICK *advertiser censored*!
The question is not that he did this but how? I can only suspect he threatened her w/a knife or just bulldozed her from behind in a fatass frenzy?
Dru was just shy over 5ft but she is younger. If we learn something from this is you DON'T BARGAIN when attacked or provked..YOU ATTACK BACK AND MAKE A HUGE SCENE. That is what I tell my daughter. Knife or no knife. Only difference is if they approach quietly and ask for a bag or something..DO IT. Sometimes they just use a weapon to scare. But if they ask you to go w/them or try to use force on you....KICK *advertiser censored*!
Bailey1
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Most evil bastards like this don't expect a fight...just like they attack by "surprise" ..we should SURPRISE right back.
starpatch
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You are right...I have told my daughters the same....we are all concerned if we could actually do that, though....
I think we should all put a plan in our minds, and, do our best to follow thru,
http://cnn.netscape.cnn.com/news/st.../ff/story/0001/20031212/145676548.htm&sc=1110
GRAND FORKS, N.D. (AP) - National Guard troops joined the search for a missing North Dakota college student Friday, lowering cameras through holes drilled in the ice-covered Red River and searching abandoned buildings and roadways.
GRAND FORKS, N.D. (AP) - National Guard troops joined the search for a missing North Dakota college student Friday, lowering cameras through holes drilled in the ice-covered Red River and searching abandoned buildings and roadways.
Toth
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I think that 5pm in that location might be rather dark and I do not know if the mall's parking lot is lit, much less brightly lit. Its cold, there might not be many people about and those who were around might well have been wearing ear muffs or face masks that cover their ears as well due to the cold weather.
It is unfortunate that she did not make her stand there, since any compliance only leads to the inevitable happening elsewhere.
As to searchers, some volunteers have shown up dressed in clothing and footgear that was grossly inappropriate for the rigors they were about to endure. The National Guard volunteers are issued appropriate survival suits and sturdy footgear. Some of the territory being searched cant be traversed even by the All Terrain Vehicles commonly used by local residents.
Its rugged territory and its a short "daylight" time. Even appropriately dressed and experienced search and rescue personnel have been in for an ordeal that is not without considerable danger.
It is unfortunate that she did not make her stand there, since any compliance only leads to the inevitable happening elsewhere.
As to searchers, some volunteers have shown up dressed in clothing and footgear that was grossly inappropriate for the rigors they were about to endure. The National Guard volunteers are issued appropriate survival suits and sturdy footgear. Some of the territory being searched cant be traversed even by the All Terrain Vehicles commonly used by local residents.
Its rugged territory and its a short "daylight" time. Even appropriately dressed and experienced search and rescue personnel have been in for an ordeal that is not without considerable danger.
Yakwoman
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Toth: You are correct about it being nearly dark here at 5 p.m. I'm also guessing that her car was parked at the far end of the JC Penny parking lot, as mall employees are encouraged to park further away so the closer spots are available for customers.
Toth
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Yes, I was once walking in the street to my parked car, which was second up from the intersection and as I passed the first car a young lady who was heading towards it became a bit alarmed and hurriedly tried to get into her car. I told her something like the following: ''its okay miss, I'm just heading to my car right there, but if you are ever afraid like that, don't turn your back and try to get into your car, always face any perceived threat, turning your back invites an attack from a coward, facing a threat will never make things worse."'
Women should always remember that showing fear by running half-way to a place of seeming safety is very bad, if you are not going to clearly make it to safety, stand your ground where you are!
Its often hard. One man was accosted by a with a pistol and did everything right: handed his wallet over immediately when told to "jack it over", turned around when told to do so, didn't stare at the thugs face. He followed all the rules properly, but when he heard the street punk pull the slide of the automatic back to jack a round up into the firing chamber, his training from his military service in Korea came back to him: "unless you can run faster than the bullet, don't run away from a man with a firearm, run toward him." Its very hard to do. You have perhaps a very slim chance in such circumstances, but if you try to "comply and hope for the best" you don't stand any chance.
Bailey1
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Its hard no matter what you do. You get the idiots that use real weapons that "think" they won't use it and you react and they do...have heard all to many times...well I panicked when they did this or that... so you think to remain calm and not provoke them. Then you get the ones that have intent from the get/go so it's best to fight back immediately. Just tough call.
Pray to God no one should have to deal with this or find out.
Pray to God no one should have to deal with this or find out.
Toth
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Ofcourse! How could I have ignored something like that! Even if she was shopping for herself, she would still have to park at a distant location as mall security enforces the rule without regard to whether a particular employee is actually on duty. Since she was in fact working that day, clearly her car would be in a remote area of the mall.
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Toth, you said:
...training from his military service in Korea came back to him: "unless you can run faster than the bullet, don't run away from a man with a firearm, run toward him."
Can I ask the rationale behind the running toward him? Is it b/c it throws him off, or some other reason? Thanks!!
...training from his military service in Korea came back to him: "unless you can run faster than the bullet, don't run away from a man with a firearm, run toward him."
Can I ask the rationale behind the running toward him? Is it b/c it throws him off, or some other reason? Thanks!!
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Yes Toth, You need to tell the 'rest of the story'! What happened top the guy after he heard the slide pull back? Lordie do, I'm waiting to hear!
Joyce, I so agree with you about wondering if we were accosted would we automatically have the guts to do what we knew was the right thing to avoid being killed.
Last night I read somewhere, maybe here, about how you can make a choice to die right there in the parking lot or where ever you are when accosted, or die where they take you to as their destination. So you've got to fight needless to say, as the best thing for everyone involved except for the perp, is to actually find you. Where ever you are accosted is the place you are most likely to be found. This way too they will have a much higher percentage of catching the guy sooner.
:snowflake Scandi
Joyce, I so agree with you about wondering if we were accosted would we automatically have the guts to do what we knew was the right thing to avoid being killed.
Last night I read somewhere, maybe here, about how you can make a choice to die right there in the parking lot or where ever you are when accosted, or die where they take you to as their destination. So you've got to fight needless to say, as the best thing for everyone involved except for the perp, is to actually find you. Where ever you are accosted is the place you are most likely to be found. This way too they will have a much higher percentage of catching the guy sooner.
:snowflake Scandi
starpatch
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HOW ABOUT THIS???
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And Tuesday, in the fourth formal search of his property, two strands of "light hair" were seized from his home.
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SO...WHERE DID THE HAIRS COME FROM...HIS CLOTHING?
Where was his Mom when he was so busy cleaning, and, bringing light hairs into the house??????
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And Tuesday, in the fourth formal search of his property, two strands of "light hair" were seized from his home.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
SO...WHERE DID THE HAIRS COME FROM...HIS CLOTHING?
Where was his Mom when he was so busy cleaning, and, bringing light hairs into the house??????
starpatch
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Missing UND student: Rodriguez had three-hour window
By Steven P. Wagner
The Forum - 12/12/2003
Three hours separate the disappearance of Dru Sjodin from a Grand Forks shopping mall and the time her accused abductor reportedly arrived at his Crookston, Minn., according to Polk County Court papers released Thursday.
The missing 22-year-old University of North Dakota student was last seen leaving the Columbia Mall about 5 p.m. Nov. 22 after purchasing a purse at Marshall Fields. Her accused kidnapper, 50-year-old Alfonso Rodriguez Jr., was placed at his Crookston home by his mother about 8:15 p.m., court papers say.
Dolores Rodriguez provided police with receipts showing her son had been shopping in Grand Forks earlier in the day, within blocks of the mall.
The search warrant records released Thursday provide the most detailed timeline to date of Rodriguezs activities and investigators attempts to find Sjodin in the days following her disappearance.
Polk County Sheriff Dan Hill said authorities are struggling to determine what happened in those three hours.
You dont know the distance he traveled from the time of the abduction, Hill said Thursday. Its so hard to determine. You dont know what direction he traveled.
Investigators launched an investigation into Rodriguez, a twice-convicted rapist, after reviewing store surveillance videotapes and receiving tips from two men who said he was in Grand Forks that day.
On Nov. 26 they also interviewed Rodriguez, who placed himself at the mall near the time of Sjodins disappearance.
On Nov. 27 and Tuesday, Minnesota authorities searched Rodriguezs Adams Street home, a utility shed on the property and his 2002 Mercury Sable. According to the records released Thursday, they confiscated several notable items including two strands of light-colored hair, blood matching Sjodins DNA profile, knives, latex gloves and clear speaker wire.
The records show Rodriguez cooperated with an initial search of his car Nov. 26. But later that evening, he refused a second search and stopped talking to investigators 18 minutes after being read his Miranda warning and signing a Miranda waiver.
He said he wanted a lawyer after police asked to do a full search of the interior of his automobile, according to the court papers. Nine hours later, police raided his home, seeking evidence linking him to Sjodins disappearance. At that time, they photographed Rodriguezs body for signs of bruises or cuts.
During the Nov. 26 interview, investigators confronted him about his alibi -- that he was watching Once Upon a Time in Mexico at a theater near the mall. He told authorities the movie began between 4:30 and 4:40 p.m. and let out about between 7 and 7:30 p.m.
When investigators told him the movie was not playing in Grand Forks then, Rodriguez couldnt explain the discrepancy, court records say.
Law enforcement and National Guard members from North Dakota and Minnesota will continue looking today for Sjodin, a Pequot Lakes, Minn., native, after earlier air, land and river-diving searches failed to lead authorities to her.
Thousands of civilian volunteers have turned up for three searches in hopes of finding Sjodin after authorities retraced the route Rodriguez told them he took home from Grand Forks nearly three weeks ago.
By Steven P. Wagner
The Forum - 12/12/2003
Three hours separate the disappearance of Dru Sjodin from a Grand Forks shopping mall and the time her accused abductor reportedly arrived at his Crookston, Minn., according to Polk County Court papers released Thursday.
The missing 22-year-old University of North Dakota student was last seen leaving the Columbia Mall about 5 p.m. Nov. 22 after purchasing a purse at Marshall Fields. Her accused kidnapper, 50-year-old Alfonso Rodriguez Jr., was placed at his Crookston home by his mother about 8:15 p.m., court papers say.
Dolores Rodriguez provided police with receipts showing her son had been shopping in Grand Forks earlier in the day, within blocks of the mall.
The search warrant records released Thursday provide the most detailed timeline to date of Rodriguezs activities and investigators attempts to find Sjodin in the days following her disappearance.
Polk County Sheriff Dan Hill said authorities are struggling to determine what happened in those three hours.
You dont know the distance he traveled from the time of the abduction, Hill said Thursday. Its so hard to determine. You dont know what direction he traveled.
Investigators launched an investigation into Rodriguez, a twice-convicted rapist, after reviewing store surveillance videotapes and receiving tips from two men who said he was in Grand Forks that day.
On Nov. 26 they also interviewed Rodriguez, who placed himself at the mall near the time of Sjodins disappearance.
On Nov. 27 and Tuesday, Minnesota authorities searched Rodriguezs Adams Street home, a utility shed on the property and his 2002 Mercury Sable. According to the records released Thursday, they confiscated several notable items including two strands of light-colored hair, blood matching Sjodins DNA profile, knives, latex gloves and clear speaker wire.
The records show Rodriguez cooperated with an initial search of his car Nov. 26. But later that evening, he refused a second search and stopped talking to investigators 18 minutes after being read his Miranda warning and signing a Miranda waiver.
He said he wanted a lawyer after police asked to do a full search of the interior of his automobile, according to the court papers. Nine hours later, police raided his home, seeking evidence linking him to Sjodins disappearance. At that time, they photographed Rodriguezs body for signs of bruises or cuts.
During the Nov. 26 interview, investigators confronted him about his alibi -- that he was watching Once Upon a Time in Mexico at a theater near the mall. He told authorities the movie began between 4:30 and 4:40 p.m. and let out about between 7 and 7:30 p.m.
When investigators told him the movie was not playing in Grand Forks then, Rodriguez couldnt explain the discrepancy, court records say.
Law enforcement and National Guard members from North Dakota and Minnesota will continue looking today for Sjodin, a Pequot Lakes, Minn., native, after earlier air, land and river-diving searches failed to lead authorities to her.
Thousands of civilian volunteers have turned up for three searches in hopes of finding Sjodin after authorities retraced the route Rodriguez told them he took home from Grand Forks nearly three weeks ago.
starpatch
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Search warrants
The search warrants and accompanying papers unsealed in Polk County District Court show investigators and forensic scientists also confiscated these items from his home and the utility shed:
- Numerous clothes, including two caps, three jackets, a striped shirt and a pair of hiking boots
- Fiber samples from rugs and carpets in the basement
- Hairs and fibers pulled from a mop head
- Two swabs of apparent blood from the garage floor
- A rubber glove found inside a wicker basket in the basement where he lives
- Two receipts for movie rentals in August and September from Mr. Movies in Crookston, including one for Nurse Kinky, a pornographic film
- A brown, wallet-type purse found in a desk drawer in the basement
- A slim knife with sheath located inside a storage box in the basement
- Four receipts for purchases Nov. 22 at Hugos, Sams Club and Wal-Mart stores
Authorities towed Rodriguezs car Nov. 27 to the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension laboratory in Bemidji, Minn., for forensic testing.
At the lab, forensic scientists saw in plain view a substance appearing to be blood on the inside of the right passenger-side rear window and on the rear seat. Testing later positively identified the substance as blood.
Court records say that during the search of his car, investigators found:
- Three latex gloves, a spray bottle, fibers and hair inside the trunk
- Swabs of apparent blood on the interior of the rear window, rear passenger-side window and adjacent door area, the drivers seat and frame of the passengers seat
- An unidentified item of evidence from the rear seat
- Sections of seat belts from the passenger side of the rear seat and center of rear seat
Moments of despair
More than 100 federal, state and local investigators converged on Grand Forks within days of Sjodins disappearance and her family, led by her father Allan Sjodin, and friends continue searching for her, committed to finding her alive.
Sjodins loved ones attended two court hearings for Rodriguez after authorities arrested him at his home Dec. 1 on kidnapping charges. He waived extradition from Crookston to Grand Forks two days later, when authorities drove him to jail and booked him into a cell away from the general population.
Rodriguez made his initial appearance on kidnapping charges, a Class A felony carrying up to 20 years in prison, in Grand Forks District Court on Dec. 4, where a judge set bail for him at $5 million.
He is scheduled for a preliminary hearing and arraignment in early February.
But investigators still look for pieces of the puzzle in their search for Sjodin and the time gap between her disappearance and Rodriguez arriving home more than three hours later.
Authorities started their search for Sjodin less than an hour after her roommate, Meg Murphy, called University of North Dakota police Nov. 22 to report Sjodin, by all accounts a responsible and magnetic person, failed to show for her job at the El Roco Lounge in Grand Forks.
Sjodin worked at Victorias Secret in the Columbia Mall until 4 p.m. that day before shopping about an hour.
Court records say a video surveillance camera recorded Sjodin leaving Marshall Fields at 4:58 p.m. and called her boyfriend, Chris Lang, on her cell phone.
The couple talked for about four minutes when Lang heard Sjodin say something like, OK, OK before the call ended abruptly.
Investigators say Lang repeatedly called Sjodins cell phone but failed to reach her. At 7:42 p.m., he received a call from her phone but only heard static and tones.
Then Lang called Murphy and the two agreed to wait to see if Sjodin showed up for work before calling authorities. When she failed to show at 9 p.m., Murphy called UND police.
Less than an hour later, UND police called the Grand Forks Police Department to begin a large-scale investigation by federal and state authorities in eastern North Dakota and northwestern Minnesota.
By 11 p.m., a police officer found Sjodins 1993 Oldsmobile Cutlass in the mall parking lot and a black nylon sheath next to it. The officer found the drivers door locked, the passenger door unlocked, no keys and a shopping bag with a purse inside. Sjodin bought the purse at Marshall Fields minutes before leaving the store.
Court records show investigators found speaker wire Nov. 27 in the shed at Rodriguezs home but didnt take it because the officer didnt know it was the same type of severed, two-prong, clear-coated electrical wire found near Sjodins car. Authorities later searched the shed again and took the wire as evidence.
The search warrants and accompanying papers unsealed in Polk County District Court show investigators and forensic scientists also confiscated these items from his home and the utility shed:
- Numerous clothes, including two caps, three jackets, a striped shirt and a pair of hiking boots
- Fiber samples from rugs and carpets in the basement
- Hairs and fibers pulled from a mop head
- Two swabs of apparent blood from the garage floor
- A rubber glove found inside a wicker basket in the basement where he lives
- Two receipts for movie rentals in August and September from Mr. Movies in Crookston, including one for Nurse Kinky, a pornographic film
- A brown, wallet-type purse found in a desk drawer in the basement
- A slim knife with sheath located inside a storage box in the basement
- Four receipts for purchases Nov. 22 at Hugos, Sams Club and Wal-Mart stores
Authorities towed Rodriguezs car Nov. 27 to the Minnesota Bureau of Criminal Apprehension laboratory in Bemidji, Minn., for forensic testing.
At the lab, forensic scientists saw in plain view a substance appearing to be blood on the inside of the right passenger-side rear window and on the rear seat. Testing later positively identified the substance as blood.
Court records say that during the search of his car, investigators found:
- Three latex gloves, a spray bottle, fibers and hair inside the trunk
- Swabs of apparent blood on the interior of the rear window, rear passenger-side window and adjacent door area, the drivers seat and frame of the passengers seat
- An unidentified item of evidence from the rear seat
- Sections of seat belts from the passenger side of the rear seat and center of rear seat
Moments of despair
More than 100 federal, state and local investigators converged on Grand Forks within days of Sjodins disappearance and her family, led by her father Allan Sjodin, and friends continue searching for her, committed to finding her alive.
Sjodins loved ones attended two court hearings for Rodriguez after authorities arrested him at his home Dec. 1 on kidnapping charges. He waived extradition from Crookston to Grand Forks two days later, when authorities drove him to jail and booked him into a cell away from the general population.
Rodriguez made his initial appearance on kidnapping charges, a Class A felony carrying up to 20 years in prison, in Grand Forks District Court on Dec. 4, where a judge set bail for him at $5 million.
He is scheduled for a preliminary hearing and arraignment in early February.
But investigators still look for pieces of the puzzle in their search for Sjodin and the time gap between her disappearance and Rodriguez arriving home more than three hours later.
Authorities started their search for Sjodin less than an hour after her roommate, Meg Murphy, called University of North Dakota police Nov. 22 to report Sjodin, by all accounts a responsible and magnetic person, failed to show for her job at the El Roco Lounge in Grand Forks.
Sjodin worked at Victorias Secret in the Columbia Mall until 4 p.m. that day before shopping about an hour.
Court records say a video surveillance camera recorded Sjodin leaving Marshall Fields at 4:58 p.m. and called her boyfriend, Chris Lang, on her cell phone.
The couple talked for about four minutes when Lang heard Sjodin say something like, OK, OK before the call ended abruptly.
Investigators say Lang repeatedly called Sjodins cell phone but failed to reach her. At 7:42 p.m., he received a call from her phone but only heard static and tones.
Then Lang called Murphy and the two agreed to wait to see if Sjodin showed up for work before calling authorities. When she failed to show at 9 p.m., Murphy called UND police.
Less than an hour later, UND police called the Grand Forks Police Department to begin a large-scale investigation by federal and state authorities in eastern North Dakota and northwestern Minnesota.
By 11 p.m., a police officer found Sjodins 1993 Oldsmobile Cutlass in the mall parking lot and a black nylon sheath next to it. The officer found the drivers door locked, the passenger door unlocked, no keys and a shopping bag with a purse inside. Sjodin bought the purse at Marshall Fields minutes before leaving the store.
Court records show investigators found speaker wire Nov. 27 in the shed at Rodriguezs home but didnt take it because the officer didnt know it was the same type of severed, two-prong, clear-coated electrical wire found near Sjodins car. Authorities later searched the shed again and took the wire as evidence.
Love_Mama
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I'm sorry.....HE was in Korea? He's only fifty.......
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I think he was speaking of another man who had been in Korea
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