Deceased/Not Found NY - Etan Patz, 6, New York, 25 May 1979 #3 *P. Hernandez guilty*

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In Etan Patz murder case, jury questions strength of defendant’s confession

http://pix11.com/2017/02/02/in-etan-patz-murder-case-jury-questions-strength-of-defendants-confession/

It remains one of the most prominent crimes in New York City history, and now that yet another jury is considering the case of the disappearance and murder of Etan Patz, the mystery surrounding the four decade-old case could get solved.

Then again, it could not.

Now, after months of testimony, the seven men and five women of the new jury have begun deliberating. On Thursday, their first full day of deliberations, they sent out three questions that they wanted the judge to answer. All of them pertained to the relevance of a confession that Hernandez made in 2012, in which he said that he had kidnapped and killed Patz 33 years earlier.
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Holdout juror in Etan Patz’s murder trial shows support for defense

"The lone holdout juror in the first trial of 6-year-old Etan Patz’s accused killer appeared in court Wednesday to show his support for the defense — just as the new panel was set to begin deliberations.

Adam Sirois was the only panelist who voted against the conviction of Pedro Hernandez in the 2015 trial, which ended in a hung jury after 18 days of deliberation.

He sat in the gallery in a row opposite the victim’s father, Stan Patz, as Justice Maxwell Wiley delivered instructions to the new jury.

“I felt it was important to show my support for the Hernandez family and for my stance on the case,” he said as he left Manhattan Supreme Court. “If you really look at the evidence you can’t draw the conclusion that Mr. Hernandez is responsible for this crime,” he said.

Two ex-jurors, who voted for conviction, and one alternative — all of whom have been steadfast in their belief in Hernandez’s guilty — sat together in a row behind Stan..."

http://nypost.com/2017/02/01/holdout-juror-in-etan-patzs-murder-trial-shows-support-for-new-panel/
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Spectrum News NY1Verified account ‏@NY1 6h6 hours ago
Members of the deadlocked jury from the first trial of Etan Patz's alleged killer are attending his retrial:

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Jurors from First Trial of Etan Patz's Alleged Killer Watch to See if Another Jury Can Reach a Verdict

"They spent months together in a Manhattan courtroom as jurors in one of New York's most infamous criminal cases, the 1979 disappearance of 6-year-old Etan Patz. Their trial ended, but they haven't been able to leave the case behind. Now, they are watching to see if another jury can reach a verdict when they could not. NY1's Michael Herzenberg filed the following report.

They are a surprising sight in Manhattan State Supreme Court: members of the deadlocked jury from the first trial of Etan Patz's alleged killer, attending his retrial.

"We're here today because we want a resolution in the case," said former juror Tyrel Martori.

"To support the prosecution, to support the Patz family," said former juror Joan Brooks..."

http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs...-see-if-another-jury-can-reach-a-verdict.html
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How Psychologists Determine Whether Someone Is Faking Insanity

"For the past three months, I’ve been covering a Manhattan murder trial that might finally solve the mystery of what happened to Etan Patz, the 6-year-old boy who vanished on his way to the school bus in 1979. In my time in the courtroom, several questions I’ve heard have stuck out. Like, “Do you have any major problem communicating with other planets?” And, “Do you sometimes have strange feelings in your body? Do these feeling only occur on Tuesdays?” And how about, “Have you ever felt that people were following you? Did you experience an increase in appetite during those times?”

These aren’t the type of questions that often come up during witness examination. You normally hear the where-were-you-on-the-night-of inquiries that establish means, motive, and opportunity. But this is a trial involving an allegedly mentally ill defendant, and these are questions that forensic psychologists testified they asked him to determine if he has a legitimate mental disorder — or if he’s just faking it..."

http://nymag.com/scienceofus/2017/02/how-hard-is-it-to-fake-insanity.html
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Shayna Jacobs ‏@shaynajacobs 7h7 hours ago
#EtanPatz retrial jury hard at work on third day of deliberations

Michael Herzenberg ‏@MHerzenberg 5h5 hours ago
Jury #EtanPatz case asks 4 testimony read back of Mark Pike (friend heard confession) and Jose Lopez (PH relative who dropped the dime)

Shayna Jacobs ‏@shaynajacobs 5h5 hours ago
#EtanPatz jury has asked for readback of testimony from Hernandez's brother-in-law and his childhood pal

Michael Herzenberg ‏@MHerzenberg 3h3 hours ago
Jury goes home for weekend after 3rd day (total 9.75 hrs)of deliberating fate of accused #etanpatz killer #pedrohernandez
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Some things to read over the weekend:

What Happened to Etan Patz
Thirty years ago, the 6-year-old boy disappeared from a Soho street. His father is now convinced he knows who killed Etan. But will the Patzes ever get a chance to learn the whole truth?..Published May 3, 2009

http://nymag.com/news/features/56441/
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FBI, NYPD Continue Basement Search for Etan Patz, Boy Who Disappeared in 1979 (with clips)- Nov 14, 2012

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...SoHo-Search-Resume-Milk-carton-148230405.html

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Later confessions of Etan Patz’s accused killer can be considered even if first one was coerced, judge rules (with clip)

"LOWER MANHATTAN — In the case of the most notorious crime against a child in New York City history, the second day of deliberations in the second trial of accused killer Pedro Hernandez featured the jury asking questions regarding his confession to the murder of kindergartener Etan Patz in 1979.

More specifically, jurors asked the judge to clarify how they should view Hernandez's multiple confessions to the child's disappearance and murder. The first confession was in 2012 to detectives in Camden, New Jersey, where Hernandez lived at the time.

"Explain to us whether if (jurors underlined the word) we find that the confession at CCPO (Camden County Prosecutors Office)... was not voluntary, we must disregard" later confessions Hernandez made, the jury asked the judge in a note read in open court on Friday morning.

The answer given by the judge was no. He determined that jurors can still consider Hernandez's subsequent confessions, even if his first confession was made without Hernandez being read his rights against self-incrimination...."

http://pix11.com/2017/02/03/later-c...ed-even-if-first-one-was-coerced-judge-rules/
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Etan Patz jurors don’t reach verdict in 3rd day of deliberations

"The jury in the Etan Patz retrial on Monday completed its third full day of deliberations without a verdict on murder and kidnapping charges against former bodega clerk Pedro Hernandez in the notorious child disappearance case...

The jury in Hernandez’s first trial in 2015 deadlocked 11-1 for conviction after deliberations lasting 17 days."

http://www.newsday.com/news/new-yor...erdict-in-3rd-day-of-deliberations-1.13072053
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Jury continues deliberations in Etan Patz murder case

"...The jury on Tuesday worked through lunch in Hernandez's re-trial. It was Day 4 for them. The jury in Hernandez's first trial deliberated for 18 days, which, interspersed with weekends, resulted in a full month of their meeting to decide his fate. Ultimately, they could not agree on a verdict.

The new jury will reconvene on Wednesday at 10:00 a.m."

http://pix11.com/2017/02/07/jury-continues-deliberations-in-etan-patz-murder-case/
 
Jury in Etan Patz case deliberates despite snowstorm

"Jurors in the retrial of Pedro Hernandez for allegedly murdering 6-year-old Etan Patz continued deliberations Thursday for a seventh day despite thick snow swirling around the lower Manhattan courthouse.

Beginning at 11 a.m., about an hour after their usual start time, members of the panel sent out one note, asking to look at a garbage bag similar to one that prosecutors say Hernandez used to wrap Etan’s body, and a model of the building and alley where he allegedly dumped it.

Supreme Court Justice Maxwell Wiley had ordered jurors to report for duty despite weather warnings, and the courthouse at 111 Centre St. had only a skeleton staff, with other judges borrowing Wiley’s courtroom to conduct proceedings while the jury was out....

The current jury has given no indication that it is at an impasse."

http://www.newsday.com/news/new-york/jury-in-etan-patz-case-deliberates-despite-snowstorm-1.13093836
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Jury requests to see 32-gallon trash bag linked to Etan Patz murder

"The jury in the retrial of the man accused of killing Etan Patz asked to review a chilling piece of evidence Thursday — a 32-gallon trash bag similar to the one the suspect says he used to discard the child’s body.

Jurors also asked to examine the model of the Soho building outside which former bodega worker Pedro Hernandez told authorities he disposed of the 6-year-old in 1979.

The panel was on their seventh day of deliberations. They will continue deliberating Friday..."

http://nypost.com/2017/02/09/jury-requests-to-see-32-gallon-trash-bag-linked-to-etan-patzs-murder/
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Pedro has just been found guilty of Etan's kidnap and murder

"Pedro Hernandez has been found guilty for the murder and kidnapping of Etan Patz.

The verdict was handed down by a jury around noon Tuesday, nine days after the began deliberations in the case.

Hernandez, 55, was convicted of felony murder and acquitted of second-degree murder by the jury, suggesting they believed that he did not mean to kill the boy.

The convicted killer should not signs of emotion as the jury read out their verdict on Tuesday."

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4224338/Pedro-Hernandez-guilty-Etan-Patz-murder.html

Thank you Jury they reached the right verdict. Etan's family continue to be in my prayers. I just wish they could find Etan to give him a funeral and finally grieve.
 
Pedro Hernandez Found Guilty of Kidnapping and Killing Etan Patz in 1979
Pedro Hernandez, a former stock clerk in a Manhattan bodega who confessed to luring the 6-year-old Etan Patz into the store’s basement and attacking him, was found guilty on Tuesday of murder and kidnapping, a long-awaited step toward solving the nearly 40-year mystery that bedeviled investigators and forever changed the way parents watched over their children.

A jury in State Supreme Court found Mr. Hernandez guilty on the ninth day of deliberations and two lengthy trials that brought new attention to Etan’s disappearance on May 25, 1979, as he walked to his school bus stop alone for the first time.
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Long time coming, hoping that the Patz family can finally feel some sense of relief and freedom.

http://www.cp24.com/world/former-st...ance-of-6-year-old-etan-patz-in-nyc-1.3285298
The Patz family has waited a long time, but we've finally found some measure of justice for our wonderful little boy, Etan," said his father, Stanley Patz, choking up as he thanked jurors for reaching the same conclusion that he had: "that this man, Pedro Hernandez, is guilty of doing something really terrible so many years ago." He added: "I am truly relieved, and I'll tell you, it's about time. It's about time."
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Never ever ever. 38 years just shows it's never to late for justice :heartbeat:
 

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[h=1]NY man guilty of murder in infamous 1979 child disappearance[/h]

NEW YORK, Feb 14 (Reuters) - A New York City jury on Tuesday found a former delicatessen worker guilty of murdering Etan Patz, a six-year-old boy whose disappearance in 1979 raised national awareness of the plight of abducted children and their parents.
The conviction of Pedro Hernandez, 56, came during his second trial in state court. It followed a 2015 mistrial that occurred after a single juror refused to go along with 11 other panelists who were convinced of his guilt.
After the verdict was read in court, Patz's father, Stan, shared hugs with prosecutors. Hernandez is scheduled to be sentenced on Feb. 28.

The boy vanished as he walked alone to a school bus stop in the city's SoHo neighborhood on May 25, 1979 and for decades was one of New York's most infamous unsolved mysteries.
His picture became one of the first to appear on milk cartons, which in the 1980s became a popular way to seek leads about missing children. His disappearance also helped bring about a national database of such cases.

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Hernandez confessed to police in 2012, saying on videotape that he had lured the child to the basement of the deli where he worked near the Patz home and strangled him.
He later recanted, and his attorneys argued the confession was the product of mental illness, including hallucinations, and coercion by the police.

LINK:

https://www.aol.com/article/news/20...over-6-year-olds-1979-disappearance/21713868/
 
I hope the Patzes find some solace in this conviction after all of these years. Hernandez 'did' confess and was convicted by a jury of his peers. I cannot imagine what these parents have gone through. I have never forgotten that photo of his mother staring off the fire escape, it ripped through my heart.

I have followed Etan's heartbreaking disappearance for many years, reading any thing that was available. For myself, it was and will always be Jose Ramos that was responsible. I just wish that there was enough to prosecute him many years ago.
 
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