NY - UID Victims of Long Island Craig's List Killer - General Discussion

[dotr]

Detailed article with video clip...

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2011/05/10/earlyshow/main20061368.shtml
"Early Show" co-anchor Chris Wragge remarked, "This is the thing that's troubling -- there are no clues left behind in any of the cases. If these are separate serial killers, they're very thorough in covering their own tracks."


Jordan said, "That's what's so disturbing about Jessica Taylor. Whoever killed her took the trouble to dismember her, leave her torso in Manorville and then dump her head and her hands 40 miles away. Now there have been two other case, one from '97, one from 2007, where torsos have also been found in the water with legs and other body parts found later. So the dismemberment cases - two of whom are still unidentified - may all come together and link with Jessica Taylor."


Police investigators, Jordan said, have their work cut out for them with forensics in these cases.


She added, "The one thing they should never discount is talking to the victims' families and using the public to try to get clues. You'd be amazed how many of the cases are actually solved because somebody calls in with a clue that links everybody together."

 

[CarlK90245]

Another "badly decomposed" unidentified body was found on a beach on the east end of Long Island.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/ar...ound-on-eastern-Long-Island-beach-1391041.php

By my count, that's now 11 (though not all were killed by the same perp)

 

[Cubby]

Another "badly decomposed" unidentified body was found on a beach on the east end of Long Island.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/ar...ound-on-eastern-Long-Island-beach-1391041.php

By my count, that's now 11 (though not all were killed by the same perp)

From the above link.

Amagansett beach is about 100 miles east of an area along a highway near Jones Beach where 10 sets of human remains have been found since December.


I'm unsure if this victim found on Amagansett beach is in any way related to the 10 sets of remains already found. 100 miles away is a large distance. I supposed it could be the perp had more than one dumping site but at this point I think the cases are unrelated until LE finds a connection.

jmo

 

[CarlK90245]

Another "badly decomposed" unidentified body was found on a beach on the east end of Long Island.

http://www.mysanantonio.com/news/ar...ound-on-eastern-Long-Island-beach-1391041.php

By my count, that's now 11 (though not all were killed by the same perp)

The victim is a short-statured male age 20-30, and is probably unrelated to the Craigs List murders of at least five prostitutes found in the Gilgo Beach area.

Continue discussion of this unidentified victim at the following thread.

NY NY - Amagansett - Headless Male Body Washed Up on Big Albert's Beach - May'11

 

[CarlK90245]

Police have released sketches of two of the three still unidentified victims found recently on Long Island Beaches.


Unidentified victim matched by DNA to body parts found in 2000 about 45 miles away. The victim is also linked by DNA to the remains of an unidentified toddler found nearby.

The woman's torso was found in Manorville in November 2000. DNA analysis confirmed that the same woman’s head, hands and right foot were discovered along Ocean Parkway on April 4, Dormer said. She was described as a white woman between the ages of 18 and 35 believed to have last been seen in the late summer or early fall of 2000.

Asian man believed to be between the ages of 17 and 23, of who was found dressed in women’s clothing and also suspected of being a prostitute.

forensic analysis showed the man was not Yim Yeng Tsui, a Stony Brook University student declared missing in August 1998.

Here's a map of where each set of remains were found:

Related Links:

http://nycitywatch.org/mu/nycitywatchbrooklyn/2011/09/20/child-among-10-victims-in-li-slay-probe/

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stor...s-of-two-victims-found-on-long-island-beaches

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1056783

 

[CarlK90245]

Police have released sketches of two of the three still unidentified victims found recently on Long Island Beaches.


Asian man believed to be between the ages of 17 and 23, of who was found dressed in women’s clothing and also suspected of being a prostitute.

forensic analysis showed the man was not Yim Yeng Tsui, a Stony Brook University student declared missing in August 1998.

Here's a map of where each set of remains were found:

Related Links:

http://nycitywatch.org/mu/nycitywatchbrooklyn/2011/09/20/child-among-10-victims-in-li-slay-probe/

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stor...s-of-two-victims-found-on-long-island-beaches

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1056783

 

[tatertot]

Thanks for posting the updates and sketches. This article states that "Jane Doe #6," the UID female found in Manorville in 2000 who is in the sketch you posted, was found within yards of the toddler girl and was suspected to be her mother or another relative, but there was no DNA connection and the girl's relative (possible mother) was found farther away:

http://www.longislandpress.com/2011/09/20/new-details-victim-sketches-released-in-gilgo-murder-case/

 

[AmandaReckonwith]

Case archive, updated today:

http://s296.photobucket.com/albums/mm166/crankycrankerson/Ocean%20Parkway%20Long%20Island%20Murders%20%20-NY-/

 

[Salem]

We have a thread on the unidentified in the news conference today located in Crimes in the News. There is a subforum for discussion on the Long Island serial killer. Because there is some overlap of the discussion and because many of the posters in that forum do not do what you guys in this forum do, I'm going to link this thread to that discussion. Hope this all makes sense.

I'm going to put a link to this thread, in that forum, so the posters can jump over here if they like and check out all the hard work you guys do here

Salem

ETA: If you are interested in seeing the discussion on the possible SK(s), you are welcome to visit us over there: Long Island Serial Killer - Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community

 

[Ms Suzanne]

I wasn't sure where to put this.I'm sorry.


http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2011/...ml?icid=maing-grid7|main5|dl5|sec1_lnk3|97597

 

[traacker13]

Recent update:

http://www.longislandpress.com/2011/11/30/latest-theory-in-beach-bodies-case-1-killer-of-10/

 

[CarlK90245]

More remains found in Manorville:

Skeletal remains found Friday evening in a rural area of Manorville are human and are estimated to have been there for about five years, according to Suffolk County police.

Suffolk homicide detectives returned to the scene of the gruesome discovery Saturday morning after a jogger and his dog discovered the remains at 6:30 p.m. Friday.

The remains were found in a wooded area about 300 yards from North Street, near Robert Cushman Murphy County Park, covered with debris and leaves, police said.

Read More:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=...kQgkHf7Bf_oHNiamQ&sig2=9SfBFZZ1eYlEixMTvRXbjQ

 

[bessie]

Another body found in Manorville a few miles from the one located in February. Not much else is known at this time.

By Timothy Bolger on March 21st, 2012

Dead Body Found by Jogger in Manorville Park

A police spokeswoman said the remains were found near Route 111 and Oceanview Boulevard. The area is a few miles down the road from the area where a man walking his dog discovered human skeletal remains in the woods off Wading River Road along a trail behind his house on Feb. 17.

http://www.longislandpress.com/2012/03/21/dead-body-found-by-jogger-in-manorville-park/

 

[bessie]

The body found in Manorville yesterday was female.

Suffolk County Police said the body had not been identified and the age was unknown. The female died at least a week ago, police said.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/loca...rville-Long-Island-Gilgo-Beach-143784046.html

Today, Det. Lt. Jjack Fitzpatrick confirmed the skeletal remains found on Feb 17th were male, and the decedent had been dead for at least five years. He doesn't believe the remains are related to the woman's body found yesterday.

Fitzpatrick said this body is not believed to be related to a body found a few miles away off Oceanview Boulevard in Manorville on Tuesday and called the sites “two distinct dumping grounds.”

Also,

Fitzpatrick urged the public not to assume connections between the Gilgo murders and these two recent bodies found in Manorville...

http://www.longislandpress.com/2012...-details-on-two-bodies-found-in-pine-barrens/

ETA: The body found on Tuesday has been identified as 45 year old Pura Simancas. Her bf admitted placing her body there after she OD'd from a combination of heroin and Xanax.

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/story?section=news/local/long_island&id=8593270

 

[CarlK90245]

More bones found on Long Island.

Another set of human remains was discovered in a wooded area of eastern Long Island that has become a dumping ground for bodies over the years, the authorities said on Saturday.

The question now is whether the skeletal remains, found on Friday evening by a man walking his dog on a trail in Manorville, represent an isolated death or is the latest clue in a continuing serial-killer case that is confronting investigators in Suffolk County.

The spokeswoman said investigators “cannot yet determine the age or gender of the remains.” ... which they said were believed to have been in the woods for several years based on the degree of plant growth around them.

It was early evening on Friday when Matthew J. Samuel, 30, discovered the bones in Manorville.
....

He was cutting through the woods after he had been out with his German short-haired pointer, Molly, searching for the shed antlers of deer, when he noticed “the top, cranial portion of the skull,” bleached white from exposure. “

...

They saw the outline of a body seemingly face up, with a foot-high blueberry bush growing through it.

“We saw the pelvis bones sticking out,” said Mr. Samuel.

The body, partly buried, was wrapped in a worn bedsheet. The sheet appeared to be covered in a black plastic garbage bag and wrapped with duct tape. Mr. Samuel did not see shoes. “I think it was barefoot,” he said.

Read More:
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/19/n...nd-on-long-island.html?_r=1&ref=serialmurders

 

[LR1]

Her NamUs page

http://identifyus.org/en/cases/9680

 

[LR1]

The NaMus page has her age 18-40 and doesn't mention the possibility of her being Hispanic. could the title of thread be changed to reflect this if not too much trouble?

 

[fieldnotes]

Jane Doe 6 from Manorville (2000)( https://identifyus.org/cases/9680 )


could this be her?

http://www.doenetwork.org/cases/3313dffl.html

 

[deedee21]

Look at post #5. It says the remains of body parts matches the DNA for remains found in Manorville. Year 2000. It goes on to say DNA of that same victim matches the DNA of the toddler found close by. Then it goes on to show a picture of the jewlry and a sketch. Wasnt the mother found at Jones Beach. Wasnt that the DNA match?

 

[LR1]

Yes you are right deedee this jane doe whose page we're on and whose sketch is in post 4 and 5 is not related to the unidentified toddler like it states in the posts. that came from earlier sloppy reporting. the toddlers relative as we all know now was found in Nassau county.