NY - UID Victims of Long Island Craig's List Killer - General Discussion

[CherBearSTL]

How about Amanda Rae Carroll?

http://www.charleyproject.org/cases/c/carroll_amanda.html

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[cvaldez1975]

Police have released sketches of two of the three still unidentified victims found recently on Long Island Beaches.


Unidentified victim matched by DNA to body parts found in 2000 about 45 miles away. The victim is also linked by DNA to the remains of an unidentified toddler found nearby.

The woman's torso was found in Manorville in November 2000. DNA analysis confirmed that the same woman’s head, hands and right foot were discovered along Ocean Parkway on April 4, Dormer said. She was described as a white woman between the ages of 18 and 35 believed to have last been seen in the late summer or early fall of 2000.

Asian man believed to be between the ages of 17 and 23, of who was found dressed in women’s clothing and also suspected of being a prostitute.

forensic analysis showed the man was not Yim Yeng Tsui, a Stony Brook University student declared missing in August 1998.

Here's a map of where each set of remains were found:

Related Links:

http://nycitywatch.org/mu/nycitywatchbrooklyn/2011/09/20/child-among-10-victims-in-li-slay-probe/

http://www.ny1.com/content/top_stor...s-of-two-victims-found-on-long-island-beaches

http://www.thestar.com/news/article/1056783

wait, WHAT? i never knew one of the manorville victims was related to the toddler remains. how incredibly horrifying.

 

[Houston Mom]

I know this is a long shot, but a Mom and toddler went missing from Massachusetts in a reported parental abduction. Karen Debra Black and her 2 year old daughter Shoshana were last seen in 1997. Image of Mom has similar facial features and a gold hoop earring. Hmmm..

http://www.missingkids.com/poster/NCMC/845423

https://www.findthemissing.org/en/cases/1919/6?current_page=circumstances

 

[LR1]

A point of clarification Houston Mom, the sketch in the above posts are for a different victim than the mother/relative of the child. They haven't released a sketch of the mom. She's not even in Namus but the child is listed there under unsure sex/gender. It also list the postmortem interval 1 years.

 

[Houston Mom]

Sorry about that LR1. Thank you for the clarification. I wonder why Long Island Mom is not on NamUs?

 

[LR1]

I'm not sure TBH, my doubt filled speculation is that maybe her skull wasn't included in what was found. There was at least 3 skulls found on that stretch of road who's torso's were found years earlier and dozens of miles away so there was some scattering that took place with some of the others. The description in articles of what was found of the Mom was a little vague also so that's where the speculation comes from. Having said that I don't know why this would preclude them from putting her in Namus. The child was found in suffolk county and the relative found just down the road in nassau co. There's very few listings for nassau in Namus.

 

[CarlK90245]

The skull belonging to the mother of the toddler was found in 2011, but had died prior to April 20, 1996.

<<<Modnote>>> This has turned out to be incorrect. The Fire Island Jane Doe is Victim #10. The mother of the child is victim #9

Body of toddler&#8217;s mother discovered

One week later, on April 11, 2011, another unidentified victim was found by a cadaver dog near Jones Beach. Only a skull was found but was quickly linked (via DNA) to a pair of legs, wrapped in plastic, that had washed up on the Blue Point Beach section of Fire Island (in Davis Park, New York) on April 20, 1996, nearly 15 years earlier (Fire Island is on the same stretch of road as the other locations but about 45 minutes away). Police noted that the victim&#8217;s jewelry matched that of the toddler found a week earlier. DNA analysis proved what they had suspected &#8211; the victim was the mother of the toddler. Eleven days later police would find two teeth, about 12 inches from the location of the skull, that also belonged to this victim. That it took police nearly two weeks to find additional remains so near the skull is one reason many people question the competency of the law enforcement officials in this investigation.

http://altereddimensions.net/2012/long-island-serial-killer

Since she was the mother, and the child was no older than four years old, the toddler had to have died at or around the same time as the mother.

 

[LR1]

There's some inaccuracies in that link Carl at least as far as I remember. Wikipedia seems to have it right, it list the Mother as JD#3 and the 96 JD as #7.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_Island_serial_killer

Here's the 96 fire island JD namus page.

https://identifyus.org/en/cases/9098

It's unknown how many are responsible and with the number of victims, the different parts here and there and with 14 years between the first victim and the last, it makes for a hard case to keep up with.

 

[Houston Mom]

So this is Long Island Mom:

<<<ModNote>>> This is not the mother of the toddler, this is "Fire Island Jane Doe"

 

[LR1]

That's the JD whose legs washed up on Fire island in 1996 and whose skull was found on Ocean Pkwy. in Nassau county in 2011. The other JD that was found the same day and further west along the Pkwy. is the Mother of the child found. There is no sketch for the Mother.

 

[meltruth]

I can clarify this for you. Jane doe namus 9098. Her skull was found. When they did DNA on her skull. Her DNA linked to a pair of legs found on Fire Island in 1996. The DNA link Mother to the toddler is a separate from her remains. The mother's remains that was found was only the torso without skull. This would be the reason behind why there is not a sketch for the UID mother. I hope this clears up any confusion.