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It would be a long walk between Elaine/Nicole and this new one. However I did notice all are short distance from El stops, the last one is 2-3 blocks from Erie-Torresdale station, the others close to Huntingdon and/or York-Dauphin stations. The ride would be between 5-10 minutes.
 
Snackcakes66 said:
It would be a long walk between Elaine/Nicole and this new one. However I did notice all are short distance from El stops, the last one is 2-3 blocks from Erie-Torresdale station, the others close to Huntingdon and/or York-Dauphin stations. The ride would be between 5-10 minutes.
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Ya know Snacks it also comes in to play are all these in the same district? I know between Church stop and Erie-Torresdale it goes from the 25th to the 15th. That's why you'll see alot of action on that bridge over the crick. I'm thinking now we have the 24th and 25th involved.

The guy who is staying in the apartment came home and found this poor girl. Like who could get into his apartment without him knowing? Probably anybody.

They are far walks however it's doable. When you need that extra $ you don't want to spend it on carfare. Extremely scary walk I may add.

Maybe each girl got off the El and he approached them immediately?
 
Filly, I know you say DD pays you no mind. Don't be so certain of that. She comes from good, savvy, and smart stock.

This is probably way off base but has anyone considered the other two sets of murders in the last week--the young women in Augusta, GA:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=120766&highlight=nancy+cushman

And the two in Florida:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=121078&highlight=jamie+broxson


All the victims share some similarities--namely pretty young girls. I think the MO is different but just wanted to put it out there. I don't know my east coast geography and corridors as well as I should. Any possibility that all these young women were on the trafficking circuit? On the west coast, the traffickers seem to have a circuit which often makes sense--but not always. They surely hit the casinos but some of the "hot spots" are a bit surprising. Just a thought.

As a former prostitute, now upstanding citizen, told me once, "Who's going to care about a dead hooker?" Of course we do and family does. But women in this line of work (for whatever reason) suffer from an inordinate and appalling degree of crime.
 
Most on board know that I have a daughter who is trafficked. She's now 22 and most likely getting near the end of her "career". We've been totally unable to find her, even with the help of the Polaris Project and the FBI.

Imagine my shock, when I returned from my hiatus (and finally had internet access again) to learn that the young woman who lured her away from us was just arrested for attempted murder. Donn Lurrinda Hayden of Redding, CA was arrested for stabbing another young woman in the chest multiple times. Thank God the woman lived. But this highlights the dangers out there for the trafficked. If your customer or your pimp don't attack you, one of your competitors might!! I doubt that's the case here but it does happen.

http://www.redding.com/news/2010/nov/14/woman-stabbed-dispute/?partner=RSS

The mug shot doesn't look much like the woman I saw from a distance three years ago. She's very distinctive as she's 6'3" and 125 lbs. Looks like she got a little banged up when held down by the witness.
 
Missizzy said:
Most on board know that I have a daughter who is trafficked. She's now 22 and most likely getting near the end of her "career". We've been totally unable to find her, even with the help of the Polaris Project and the FBI.

Imagine my shock, when I returned from my hiatus (and finally had internet access again) to learn that the young woman who lured her away from us was just arrested for attempted murder. Donn Lurrinda Hayden of Redding, CA was arrested for stabbing another young woman in the chest multiple times. Thank God the woman lived. But this highlights the dangers out there for the trafficked. If your customer or your pimp don't attack you, one of your competitors might!! I doubt that's the case here but it does happen.

http://www.redding.com/news/2010/nov/14/woman-stabbed-dispute/?partner=RSS

The mug shot doesn't look much like the woman I saw from a distance three years ago. She's very distinctive as she's 6'3" and 125 lbs. Looks like she got a little banged up when held down by the witness.
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Oh my gosh Izzy. That's almost unreal. I can not even begin to imagine how you felt when you saw that.

You know I keep your DD in my prayers every single night with all the other girls and guys still out there suffering.

What struck me in that article is a little 14 year old girl lived across the way and witnessed that fight. By the grace of God she could have preyed on that child next. I am so sorry you are missing your daughter.

As for the women in Philadelphia murdered recently they were not trafficked. Each young lady so far except for the last victim has family here. They were in high crime areas. I tread carefully saying that friends and family say they were either in active addiction or in recovery. As soon as people hear "drugs" well suddenly nobody cares or figure it's bound to happen. That shouldn't figure in. These are mom's, daughters, sisters, aunts.
 
Thanks Filly. I did just about spit my coffee out when I came upon that. I called the local LE but they didn't think that my daughter had been present. The reason I posted the info is that trafficking is a nasty, dangerous world. Just like drugs and gun-running. A person is bound to get hurt or to hurt someone else. And many don't know that some of the nastiest pimps are female. The young ladies in your city may not have been trafficked but I suspect that the others I mentioned were.

Let's hope something breaks lose (as in tips) for the poor victims and their families up your way. It is true that the general public turns away when they hear the word drugs or prostitute. Wake up, people. This could be your loved one!! None of us are perfect. I am living proof that there is often a loving family member waiting and worrying.

Stay safe.
 
Allison Edwards mother said her daughter told her she knew one of the victims but her mom isn't sure which girl. This leads investigators to wonder did the young women know the attacker?

Here's a link with a picture of a beautiful yet troubled young woman. There's also a map which numbers where each attack has occured. They are numbered up to 7.

A connection I am seeing is that both Elaine and Allison had been sober recently. Allison celebrated her sobriety on November 16th. She celebrated by adopting a puppy. She had gotten a job at Pet Smart in Levittown. Also, Allison was not local. Her addiction came from Michigan to Australia to this God forsaken place. According to her mom and her FB on the 26th she wrote something like "I'll have to start over". She had a drink at a friends house and her addiction came back full force.

Saddest to me is she walked away from her mom's home in Levittown without money, a coat, nothing. She said she had to get the addiction out of her system. Some people see that as kicking all over again. I see it as you already used you might as well go back into it.

***Unless Allison left to kick at a male friends home? I can't see why she would wind up in Juniata? What's the connection? Was the apartment she was in related to any of this?***

It's not bad enough you suffer through heroin addiction. Give your family a nervous breakdown. This girl at one time had OD'd. She was on a venilator and survived. Now she's murdered? People don't understand that relapse is part of recovery. She still could have made it.


http://www.philly.com/philly/news/111367649.html?cmpid=15585797
 
Thank you, Filly. I wouldn't have seen that. It paints the picture and the picture is bleak. It breaks my heart as each of these women was a child, a teen, a person with dreams and hopes. I cannot believe that a single one of them planned to grow up and be an addict and to have to turn tricks on a filthy mattress where they might be found dead the next morning. There is no such thing as a disposable human being. God didn't intend that, IMO.

I realize that prostitution and drug use will be with us forever but cities have to step up and do more about safety. These johns are getting away with rape and murder and that's not OK, in my book. If they'll rape or kill once, they'll do it again and again. They'll keep looking for bigger thrills. That makes my blood run cold.

I have to say reading about streetwalkers in the inner city almost makes me think that the girls and women who are trafficked by a pimp from motel to convention center to casino are a tad safer. I guess it's all the same, in the long run, though. With each trick, they lose a little bit of their soul. I can't help but think that with each trick, the john loses a bit of his too.

Bless those women tonight. Please God keep them safe.
 
Did Allison and Elaine go to the same detox? Could this young man be someone who works there or nearby? He doesn't strike me a street person. He seems too well groomed.

Filly do you know anything about the typcial john? This sounds so base but is this about as cheap as a trick can get in the area? Do college boys come around for the thrill of "slumming it" or are the customers addicts too? I know that happens in LA.

I'm out of my league but trying very hard to understand.
 
I'm curious about Allison's job at PetSmart. It's possible that she had a connection. But could she have gotten the job through some sort of program? Jobs are tremendously scarce right now and it's hard for me to believe that she would have been the one chosen for the position unless she had some help. Any idea if and where Elaine might have worked. I really think that the detox center might be a connection. Maybe it's not a john. Maybe it's a case manager or peripheral person who works with the addicts.
 
Missizzy said:
Did Allison and Elaine go to the same detox? Could this young man be someone who works there or nearby? He doesn't strike me a street person. He seems too well groomed.

Filly do you know anything about the typcial john? This sounds so base but is this about as cheap as a trick can get in the area? Do college boys come around for the thrill of "slumming it" or are the customers addicts too? I know that happens in LA.

I'm out of my league but trying very hard to understand.
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Izzy the last woman attacked gave police a description of her attacker and it's IMO dead on to the same guy they already have the sketch of. Only this time he has sideburns. What do they call it? Taped?

This link gives alot of detailed information.

http://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/breaking/Police-Release-Sketch-of-Assault-Suspect-111397274.html

My mom said the same thing about Allison's job. They do have a POI in her murder. I don't believe it was the same guy. This guy is attacking women out in the open. Oh and the scariest thing is in the last attack he listened to his iPod while attacking the woman. That's cold as cold can get.

Allison left her house in Levittown. That is a suburb of Philly. They have their own heroin trade up there so I am guessing she went back to where she knew she could cop. However, she left without any money. No car. IMO she had to have someone give her a ride back into Philly.

Personally I don't think the guy works out of detox or anything. It's possible he's been in one. He knows the area real well. There is a detox without rehab nearby some of the murders. Ummmm, not a real structured place that's for sure.

He's young. He's on foot. He's walking out in that neighborhood at all hours so he's street smart. It's possible at some point he ran into Elaine or Nicole. Pretty much traveling back and forth down there you would get to know faces. Why doesn't someone know him?
 
Missizzy said:
Did Allison and Elaine go to the same detox? Could this young man be someone who works there or nearby? He doesn't strike me a street person. He seems too well groomed.

Filly do you know anything about the typcial john? This sounds so base but is this about as cheap as a trick can get in the area? Do college boys come around for the thrill of "slumming it" or are the customers addicts too? I know that happens in LA.

I'm out of my league but trying very hard to understand.
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Sorry I was all over the place and didn't answer your question, Izzy.

Yes, he is well groomed. I doubt that hoodie he had on is cheap either. My initial thought was he's a lookout or a dealer. The only thing there is that's a business. They wouldn't want that to happen on their particular corners. The last thing they want is more police prescence.

College boys would only tread into that area if they are addicts. It's so sad you send your kid off to Ivy League school or something and they are lined up waiting for a get well bag in an alley before classes.

The johns are from all over the place. Day and night. In cars though almost always. This guy is on foot. They do walking dates though, but at night I would say no. I may be wrong. I hope I am.

Sad, sad. $20.00 down to $10.00. The older women complain the younger girls go too low and then what? I'm seeing this as a heroin thing as opposed to a crack thing. A bag of heroin is $10.00. A cap of crack is $5.00. You can see where the discrepency in price would be for a trick there. At least I think it is. Thank the good Lord I'm not 100% sure today.

Most of the girls know eachother as well as the guys out there. Between copping, needle exchange, transporting back and forth often a few times a day you would know faces. It can be different now as the open air drug trade isn't as prevelant as it used to be. Still at some point you can't cop from your dealer you're going "Down the way".

I don't in my heart believe that Elaine was doing that. Maybe none of the women were. Maybe they all were. It sounds like he's just grabbing women. Women who happen to be a slave to a rotten addiction.

Please send positive vibes and prayers that they're safe out there tonight. Prayers for the suffering. Prayers for their poor families.
 
Texas Mist said:
PHILADELPHIA - Police are investigating another sexual assault in Philadelphia's Kensington neighborhood.

Investigators say a 41-year old woman tells them she was raped in a car at Kensington and Allegheny avenues overnight.

http://www.myfoxphilly.com/dpp/news/local_news/Kensington_Sex_Assault_120710

What a dangerous neighborhood - especially if there are multiple rapists for LE to track down.
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I am thankful the media is onto what's happening. K&A is notorious for prostitution, and we all know when the victims are hookers or people think they were, people don't seem to care as much.
 
Texas Mist said:
What a dangerous neighborhood - especially if there are multiple rapists for LE to track down.
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It happens way too much already Texas Mist like Linda said. People liken it to Night Of The Living Dead.

Elmer Smith wrote an article about the type of murderer this guy is. They're bringing or already have brought in a profiler.

http://www.philly.com/philly/news/2...rt_for_this_remorseless__maniacal_killer.html

Again I don't think all these girls were prostitutes. Fighting addiction, yes. The victim who got hit with the brick made it sound like he was nonchalant. He gave his name as Tony. Had the iPod. It is not unusual if you were down there to get drugs to walk along with someone you don't know. Just walk along. Then again that was 2:00AM in that case sooooo:eek:

If anything this is getting attention out. I've cautioned young girls that I know this doesn't mean this guy is just going to stay down there. He could be walking down the block as I speak in our neighborhood. He could go over to Camden. He could be shopping in a mall.
 
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