Picketing in front of baby Lisa's house

[dog.gone.cute]

Wow! People are STILL making this all about DB and JI. This is ABOUT LISA people! If 6 people or 600 people want to picket for their belief that DB and JI should be talking to LE, it is their right! I have read everything I could on this case and I can tell you that it is like 600 people to 60 people who believe that they should be talking to police. The vast majority of people believe this! I can't fathom why some feel that they should NOT be talking to police. How does this help bring home Lisa? How does not talking to LE help bring baby Lisa home?

RBBM:

:rocker: Exactly -- Lisa is the VICTIM here -- NOT Deborah and Jeremy !

JMO, but UNTIL Deborah and Jeremy sit down and talk with LE separately, the public will continue to believe very strongly that both Deborah and Jeremy are "hiding something" and/or "guilty" in Lisa's "disappearance" ...

:moo::moo::moo:

 

[norest4thewicked]

Just because someone has the right to do it doesn't mean they should do it.

Lister is/was a quiet street; why should the neighbors be subjected to someone from Cali who gets a tickle up their back and requests donations to fly to KCMO to stand in front of their house, on their street? A poll of the neighbors would tell you it was a nuisance. As for the media, even they weren't too interested in this moment of 'protest'. It was a moment that did not get the anticipated reaction from the media.

I doubt that 6 people really caused much of an uproar on that quiet street.

And, the media not being interested shows that it wasn't that big of a deal.

Poor DB and JI...poor neighborhood...why not poor Lisa? And while I am the first one to admit that this protest likely did nothing to help little Lisa in any way, I (for one) am happy that someone out there has a voice for Lisa.

And, who cares if the person was from California or Timbucktoo? At least they represented the fact that these parents need to finally start talking.

 

[cityslick]

Wow! People are STILL making this all about DB and JI. This is ABOUT LISA people! If 6 people or 600 people want to picket for their belief that DB and JI should be talking to LE, it is their right! I have read everything I could on this case and I can tell you that it is like 600 people to 60 people who believe that they should be talking to police. The vast majority of people believe this! I can't fathom why some feel that they should NOT be talking to police. How does this help bring home Lisa? How does not talking to LE help bring baby Lisa home?

Where we disagree though is that I don't think they were there for Lisa. I think they were there to make their presence known to DB/JI. If it truly was about Lisa, the location of the protest should be irrelevant. It shouldn't have to be on the front lawn of the parents. If they want people to know about Lisa and want justice for her, do it in a public place, where more eyeballs will see the signs and hear the chants. Not in a residential neighborhood where it's only going to piss of the neighbors and have some of them bring their kids inside because they don't want their kids to see that kind of ruckus where they live.

All IMO

 

[Jacie Estes]

Wow! People are STILL making this all about DB and JI. This is ABOUT LISA people! If 6 people or 600 people want to picket for their belief that DB and JI should be talking to LE, it is their right! I have read everything I could on this case and I can tell you that it is like 600 people to 60 people who believe that they should be talking to police. The vast majority of people believe this! I can't fathom why some feel that they should NOT be talking to police. How does this help bring home Lisa? How does not talking to LE help bring baby Lisa home?

Grand Jury Witness Subpoenas?

Grand Jury Probe Subpoenas?

Conversely, why isn't KCMO LE exercising their authority by issuing subpoenas for them through a Grand Jury?

DB/JI talked to LE, more than once. Everyone keeps parroting talk to LE, they did. IF there is so much evidence that they murdered their baby then why isn't there another Grand Jury?

There is A dog hit that has not been backed up with another hit.

There is tangential 'evidence' that apparently went nowhere.

There is an anecdotal account that just happened to be sold to a tabloid. How much money did that bring in for those who are pushing the anecdotal info? Enough to make up the difference between $145 and the cost of airfare to KCMO? How much respect can be given to someone who 'sells' a story to a tabloid?

There are peeps like Edith and JN who go stand on a street. What did it do to help boost an ego of someone else whose main efforts are spewing vile nonsense on social media?
To what end? What did a trip to KCMO do to help Lisa? IMHO Nothing, not a darned thing.

Wanna protest? Do something that will have an impact.

 

[Dave AHFB]

Compassion towards the boys can be subjective when we consider what happened with the powell children.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Compassion towards the boys can be subjective when we consider what happened with the powell children.

You know, Dave, I was thinking of that very thing a little while ago and wanted to post it, but thought I'd get blown up about it. Surely, these parents act every bit as guilty and kooky as Josh Powell did. No one knows the reason that Lisa is gone, so we can't know that these other little boys are safe either.

Thank you for coming here and pointing this out!

 

[AnaTeresa]

You know, Dave, I was thinking of that very thing a little while ago and wanted to post it, but thought I'd get blown up about it. Surely, these parents act every bit as guilty and kooky as Josh Powell did. No one knows the reason that Lisa is gone, so we can't know that these other little boys are safe either.

Thank you for coming here and pointing this out!

Respectfully, I strongly disagree that these parents come across at all like Josh Powell.

 

[OEJ]

Given the same set of circumstances in my own neighborhood, I would join the protesters. I don't know if it would help or not, but it has got to send a better message to those kids then, "Nothing to see here folks. Move along. We're getting back to normal." I couldn't live with myself facing those boys when they're grown men and asking me what I did about their baby sister, and all I had to say was, "nothing." Even posting on a public forum is better than that.

 

[cityslick]

Given the same set of circumstances in my own neighborhood, I would join the protesters. I don't know if it would help or not, but it has got to send a better message to those kids then, "Nothing to see here folks. Move along. We're getting back to normal." I couldn't live with myself facing those boys when they're grown men and asking me what I did about their baby sister, and all I had to say was, "nothing." Even posting on a public forum is better than that.

What message would you be sending the kids? Do you expect the boys to turn against their parents? Do you think the boys are going to listen to complete strangers yelling and holding signs on their yard or their parents?

 

[dog.gone.cute]

Compassion towards the boys can be subjective when we consider what happened with the powell children.

:rocker: Great point !

:moo::moo:

 

[norest4thewicked]

Given the same set of circumstances in my own neighborhood, I would join the protesters. I don't know if it would help or not, but it has got to send a better message to those kids then, "Nothing to see here folks. Move along. We're getting back to normal." I couldn't live with myself facing those boys when they're grown men and asking me what I did about their baby sister, and all I had to say was, "nothing." Even posting on a public forum is better than that.

Exactly! I couldn't agree more!

 

[Allusonz]

Given the same set of circumstances in my own neighborhood, I would join the protesters. I don't know if it would help or not, but it has got to send a better message to those kids then, "Nothing to see here folks. Move along. We're getting back to normal." I couldn't live with myself facing those boys when they're grown men and asking me what I did about their baby sister, and all I had to say was, "nothing." Even posting on a public forum is better than that.

This is a neighborhood that has endured helicopters flying overhead for days at a time. Media 24/7 for weeks at a time(maybe longer). Investigators questioning them and maybe investigated themselves by LE. Strangers around the neighborhood just out of curiosity.

This neighborhood have probably escorted their children every time they have left the confines of their home to ensure their safety as they have no way of knowing if someone is taking advantage of a situation and may of inserted themselves into the situation but may have a different agenda. They have probably taken extra precautions to ensure their homes are safe, their property, and yes even their pets as we already know one pet was stolen.

Now it is expected that this same neighborhood deal with protesters just when things are starting to settle back into a normal routine for them.

Whether it is 5 or 5000 protesters I must ask these protesters if they can 100 % guarantee mine and my families safety?

Can they 100% guarantee to me even though the intent is that it be peaceful that no violence will break out?

Can they 100% guarantee to me that none of these protesters have a criminal background?

Then I must ask whom is going to deal with my children not understanding why I won't allow them outside to play in their own yard. Comfort them when they are scared? Whom is going to answer their questions when I don't have the answers myself?

The people in the neighborhood did not ask for this. Thus I must now ask why this can't be done at another location? Truly if this is about finding baby Lisa, why not pay for a certified dog and handlers airfare instead of flying in a protester? Hire a PI. Organize a search. I would not wish this to happen to anyone

Did anyone consider the neighbors feelings with respect to this?

 

[norest4thewicked]

This is a neighborhood that has endured helicopters flying overhead for days at a time. Media 24/7 for weeks at a time(maybe longer). Investigators questioning them and maybe investigated themselves by LE. Strangers around the neighborhood just out of curiosity.

This neighborhood have probably escorted their children every time they have left the confines of their home to ensure their safety as they have no way of knowing if someone is taking advantage of a situation and may of inserted themselves into the situation but may have a different agenda. They have probably taken extra precautions to ensure their homes are safe, their property, and yes even their pets as we already know one pet was stolen.

Now it is expected that this same neighborhood deal with protesters just when things are starting to settle back into a normal routine for them.

Whether it is 5 or 5000 protesters I must ask these protesters if they can 100 % guarantee mine and my families safety?

Can they 100% guarantee to me even though the intent is that it be peaceful that no violence will break out?

Can they 100% guarantee to me that none of these protesters have a criminal background?

Then I must ask whom is going to deal with my children not understanding why I won't allow them outside to play in their own yard. Comfort them when they are scared? Whom is going to answer their questions when I don't have the answers myself?

The people in the neighborhood did not ask for this. Thus I must now ask why this can't be done at another location? Truly if this is about finding baby Lisa, why not pay for a certified dog and handlers airfare instead of flying in a protester? Hire a PI. Organize a search. I would not wish this to happen to anyone

Did anyone consider the neighbors feelings with respect to this?

Just my personal opinion, but I think that while it might be an inconvenience for neighbors, this pales in comparison to a baby going missing. What about "neighbors" in other protest situations? I personally believe that the parents are responsible for Lisa being gone, thus they have to deal with whatever repercussions come their way. Apparently others feel this way too. It isn't about neighbors or DB/JI...it's about Lisa.

 

[norest4thewicked]

Given the same set of circumstances in my own neighborhood, I would join the protesters. I don't know if it would help or not, but it has got to send a better message to those kids then, "Nothing to see here folks. Move along. We're getting back to normal." I couldn't live with myself facing those boys when they're grown men and asking me what I did about their baby sister, and all I had to say was, "nothing." Even posting on a public forum is better than that.

I would also join the protesters. And, if it happened in my neighborhood, I would go about my business and not get my panties in a wad over it. Do something else with my time if I didn't want to see it.

Close your curtains/blinds, do errands, take a bath, cook something great for dinner. If it bothers you, don't look at it...geez...it's not that difficult. It's not like 6 people in the street are going to cause you to go insane from the severe disturbance in the neighborhood.

I'm married to a man who spent the majority of his adult life in the military fighting for our freedom of free speech and other freedoms. Needless to say, I strongly believe in it.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

If it is about Lisa and if they are so sure DB and / or JI hold the answers, why not protest the SA's office, or in front of KCPD and demand an arrest? Why not protest in front of the courts? Do they think the immediate neighbours of DB and JI haven't heard the news yet?
I've never read families or loved ones saying justice has been served because of a protest, it is served when the responsible party or parties are found guilty and sentenced. Thus my point, if you are protesting for justice, do it where justice begins, with the court system.

 

[norest4thewicked]

If it is about Lisa and if they are so sure DB and / or JI hold the answers, why not protest the SA's office, or in front of KCPD and demand an arrest? Why not protest in front of the courts? Do they think the immediate neighbours of DB and JI haven't heard the news yet?
I've never read families or loved ones saying justice has been served because of a protest, it is served when the responsible party or parties are found guilty and sentenced. Thus my point, if you are protesting for justice, do it where justice begins, with the court system.

Nice idea Dewey! However, life isn't always nice. I guess you would have to ask the protesters why they chose to do it in front of DB/JI's house. I don't disagree with you that protesting in other areas might be the proper way to do it, but it wasn't the protesters choice to do it there. They chose to do it in front of the home. That is their right. And, for some, justice might begin in the hearts of the guilty parents...it just might.

 

[Dewey2Me1MoThyme]

Nice idea Dewey! However, life isn't always nice. I guess you would have to ask the protesters why they chose to do it in front of DB/JI's house. I don't disagree with you that protesting in other areas might be the proper way to do it, but it wasn't the protesters choice to do it there. They chose to do it in front of the home. That is their right. And, for some, justice might begin in the hearts of the guilty parents...it just might.

Thanks for your reply, but with all due respect, no snark intended, I would never join their FB page to ask them. So, since we have a thread started here to discuss the protest, I put in my :twocents: worth. Of course that's just my opinion, which I realize now I should have stated as such. :seeya:

 

[Cappuccino]

I would also join the protesters. And, if it happened in my neighborhood, I would go about my business and not get my panties in a wad over it. Do something else with my time if I didn't want to see it.

Close your curtains/blinds, do errands, take a bath, cook something great for dinner. If it bothers you, don't look at it...geez...it's not that difficult. It's not like 6 people in the street are going to cause you to go insane from the severe disturbance in the neighborhood.

I'm married to a man who spent the majority of his adult life in the military fighting for our freedom of free speech and other freedoms. Needless to say, I strongly believe in it.

Was he fighting for Fifth Amendment rights too?

 

[norest4thewicked]

Grand Jury Witness Subpoenas?

Grand Jury Probe Subpoenas?

Conversely, why isn't KCMO LE exercising their authority by issuing subpoenas for them through a Grand Jury?

DB/JI talked to LE, more than once. Everyone keeps parroting talk to LE, they did. IF there is so much evidence that they murdered their baby then why isn't there another Grand Jury?

There is A dog hit that has not been backed up with another hit.

There is tangential 'evidence' that apparently went nowhere.

There is an anecdotal account that just happened to be sold to a tabloid. How much money did that bring in for those who are pushing the anecdotal info? Enough to make up the difference between $145 and the cost of airfare to KCMO? How much respect can be given to someone who 'sells' a story to a tabloid?

There are peeps like Edith and JN who go stand on a street. What did it do to help boost an ego of someone else whose main efforts are spewing vile nonsense on social media?
To what end? What did a trip to KCMO do to help Lisa? IMHO Nothing, not a darned thing.

Wanna protest? Do something that will have an impact.

Sorry, not following you here...I don't know anything about a tabloid and don't know an Edith or JN...so lost on me.

And, I will say as I've said before...I didn't think the protesters would do anything to bring home Lisa, but I still believe that they have a right to do so. This is America.

 

[cityslick]

Nice idea Dewey! However, life isn't always nice. I guess you would have to ask the protesters why they chose to do it in front of DB/JI's house. I don't disagree with you that protesting in other areas might be the proper way to do it, but it wasn't the protesters choice to do it there. They chose to do it in front of the home. That is their right. And, for some, justice might begin in the hearts of the guilty parents...it just might.

Which is why I question the motivations behind the protest. IMO I think they just wanted DB to hear them chant and walk with their signs or perhaps were doing it to try to get a reaction out of DB so that way it'll be on the news.