Retrieving wreckage from AirAsia Flight To Singapore- no survivors recovered #3

[Snoods]

Five more bodies have been identified, bringing the total to 91.

Boby Hartanto Winata, a teenager who was traveling with his relative 9-year-old Ingrid Winata. (Ingrid's body parts were identified back on the 7th of February. Sigh. This is macabre.)

Kevin Biantoro, 18

Gusti Made Bobi Sidartha, 43

I wasn't able to find photos of either Indah Diani or Ernawati.

Also, British passenger Choi Chi Man (48) was identified on February 14th. He was traveling with his two-year-old daughter, Zoe, who has not been found. They were both sitting in the first row. This is the passenger who flew separately from his wife and young son, who were on a different flight.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ven-weeks-crash-killed-155.html#ixzz3RlWaY2EZ
http://www.kdramastars.com/articles...-update-on-search-and-recovery-operations.htm
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...espects-to-mh370/story-fnl2dlu7-1227168597660
http://www.tribunnews.com/regional/2014/12/28/sebelum-ke-singapura-bobi-sekeluarga-pamitnya-ke-bali

 

[gregjrichards]

Thanks for posting this update Snoods it is appreciated.

 

[Snoods]

These two gentlemen were identified several weeks ago, but I wasn't able to post their pics until now and I didn't want to miss anyone.

Sii Chung Huei was identified on February 8th. He was the only Malaysian passenger. Here he is with his beautiful family.

Co-pilot Remi Emmanuel Pelsel was also identified on February 8th. He has a really nice smile, doesn't he? (Hmm wonder if we'll be privy to his autopsy report.)

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ed-crashed-plane-sea-floor-strapped-seat.html
http://www.malaysiandigest.com/worl...ed.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter[/QUOTE]

 

[Snoods]

Thanks for posting this update Snoods it is appreciated.

:seeya: Hi greg, no problem. Looks like I didn't miss much while I was away. I hope you are feeling better!

Hmm. I was trying to find out any information about the co-pilot's autopsy and I came across this article in The Wall Street Journal from last month.

Autopsies carried out on several victims from AirAsia Flight 8501 have revealed impact injuries such as broken legs, but no burns, early clues that may help investigators figure out what happened in the crash.

What the?? Autopsies? The Wall Street Journal is a reliable news source, but this is the first I've heard about any autopsies being carried out. Surely they must mean this is what eyewitness reports have stated.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/airasia-flight-8501-black-boxes-may-not-be-in-tail-section-1420787692

 

[gregjrichards]

:seeya: Hi greg, no problem. Looks like I didn't miss much while I was away. I hope you are feeling better!

Hmm. I was trying to find out any information about the co-pilot's autopsy and I came across this article in The Wall Street Journal from last month.



What the?? Autopsies? The Wall Street Journal is a reliable news source, but this is the first I've heard about any autopsies being carried out. Surely they must mean this is what eyewitness reports have stated.

http://www.wsj.com/articles/airasia-flight-8501-black-boxes-may-not-be-in-tail-section-1420787692

Hi thank you I am feeling better now. Yes I read in an article last month they were planning to do autopsies on the flight crew. They couldn't do them on passengers for religious reasons.

 

[gregjrichards]

"Tony Fernandes is here at Loftus Road to talk football. QPR have a new manager in Chris Ramsey, they are in a battle against the drop and he is keen to impress how the club have changed and how they can withstand the shock of relegation should that day come.

But it is hard to focus entirely on matters on the pitch. For Fernandes is also the face of AirAsia and describes the last seven weeks as the ‘worst 50 days of my life’.

It was on December 28 that AirAsia flight QZ8501 with 162 people on board crashed into the sea between Surabaya and Singapore.

‘I think the only way I do know how to manage these things is with my heart,’ says Fernandes, owner and chief executive of AirAsia. ‘Just confront it and deal with it. It has just been a nightmare to be honest. The only way I know how to deal with it is to deal with it.

‘I get text messages every day from the families. They all have my mobile phone number. I’ve been going to funerals and that’s hard. But the families have been amazing to us. They’ve given me strength.’

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/fo...a-crash-worst-50-days-life.html#ixzz3SQISb7JV

 

[Dr. Know?]

All the tweets that have been tweeted for #QZ8501 have been old news when I check. Just the repeats of how bad Tony Fernandes felt & is at a football game. Here's one that maybe newer but can't say for sure. The news out of the area is very limited. Guess they did pack there bags up pretty much. When fishermen are removed, who else do they have? How many are still searching is what would be something positive to the families to know at least, I'd think. smh I'm not even sure if this is new news or not. Hope it is.

PZFeed Ebooks ‏@PZbooks · 4h4 hours ago
BREAKING NEWS: Three more bodies have been recovered so far from flight #QZ8501 and have been brought on to an Indonesian navy ship.

https://twitter.com/PZbooks/status/569671725442580482

 

[newone]

All the tweets that have been tweeted for #QZ8501 have been old news when I check. Just the repeats of how bad Tony Fernandes felt & is at a football game. Here's one that maybe newer but can't say for sure. The news out of the area is very limited. Guess they did pack there bags up pretty much. When fishermen are removed, who else do they have? How many are still searching is what would be something positive to the families to know at least, I'd think. smh I'm not even sure if this is new news or not. Hope it is.

PZFeed Ebooks ‏@PZbooks · 4h4 hours ago
BREAKING NEWS: Three more bodies have been recovered so far from flight #QZ8501 and have been brought on to an Indonesian navy ship.

https://twitter.com/PZbooks/status/569671725442580482

Thank you for your efforts to keep us up to date.

It's heartbreaking for the families of those passengers who lost their lives that there seems to be so little effort in recovery.

MOO

 

[Dr. Know?]

Finding any news out of the area is almost zilch. This headline keeps being tweeted so I translated it. They are scaling down and it doesn't sound like they are finding victims at this point, sadly.

Rabu, 25/02/2015 03:16 WIB


AirAsia posts QZ8501 Crisis Center will Mahameru Building Closed

Jakarta - On day 59 after the tragedy terjatuhnya QZ8501 AirAsia plane, no delivery bodies or body parts. If in the next week no more posts to hospital Bhayangkara post AirAsia QZ8501 Crisis Center in East Java Police Headquarters Mahameru building will be closed.

However, the service is still being done in the hospital Bhayangkara East Java Police.

"If there is no arrival (bodies) again, do not rule out the post crisis center will be moved to the hospital Bhayangkara," said Head of East Java Police Commissioner Pol Dokkes Budiyono during a press conference at the post in the building Mahameru, East Java Police Headquarters, Jalan A Yani, Surabaya , Tuesday (02/24/2015).

He explained that the activities identified in the bodies (body and body parts) have been completed. Tim Disaster Victim Identification (DVI) only live match deoxyribose test results nucliec acid (DNA) which is still awaiting the results of the Police Headquarters.

"We can just wait it out," he said, adding, to this day hospital Bhayangkara East Java Police received a 104 body and body parts.

Of these, which has identified 98 (94 body, three body parts and 1 non-human). And the remaining 6 (3 body and 3-body part) is still stored in cold storage awaiting the results of DNA.

In addition to waiting for the results of the DNA test, plan to change the post as well as the arrival of the families in the post crisis center in the building Mahameru wane.

"This has been our plan to move to convey to the family and do not mind, because it is too broad Mahameri building. Let not redundant," he explained.

Post to the media center will also be moved to an area hospital Bhayangkara East Java Police.

"For we also provide post journalists there (Hospitals)," he said.

Follow variety of interesting news today in the program "Reporting Afternoon" TRANS TV Monday through Friday at 16:45 pm

http://news.detik.com/read/2015/02/...irasia-qz8501-di-gedung-mahameru-akan-ditutup

 

[Dr. Know?]

Not surprised that it doesn't sound good for AirAsia. O/T

Malaysia's AirAsia X to cut costs, may defer plane deliveries: Acting CEO

Hit with three disasters last year - the disappearance of Malaysian Airlines flight MH370, the same carrier's MH17 shot down over Ukraine, and the crash of the QZ8501 jet operated by an AirAsia X affiliate in Indonesia - demand for air travel in the region has dampened, Ismail said.

more here

http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/02/25/us-airasia-x-ceo-interview-idUSKBN0LT0B920150225

How about let's think of the missing passengers instead of poor Air Asia? How about they allow others to help find the missing? I'll never understand these countries, I guess. Such limited information.

 

[Dr. Know?]

AirAsia Flight QZ8501 Crash Update: More than 50 passengers unrecovered; Indonesia to release investigation report August

http://www.vcpost.com/articles/4582...-release-investigation-report-this-august.htm

IndoTTJournal ‏@IndoTTJournal · 1h1 hour ago
LATEST PICTURE : Basarnas finally able to lift main body of AirAsia #QZ8501 . http://fb.me/7dfZCjiiw

https://twitter.com/IndoTTJournal

Unable to link the picture of the main body picture but it's at the link.

 

[Dr. Know?]

Translated article.

Nailed It! Main Body Lift Basarnas AirAsia QZ8501

Jakarta - The National Search and Rescue Agency (Basarnas) managed to lift the fuselage (the main body part) AirAsia plane QZ8501 in Karimata Strait. Carcass fuselage QZ 8501 after successfully removed placed in the vessel Crest Onyx.

According to the official twitter Basarnas,SAR_NASIONAL, Friday (27/02/2015) removal of the main body of the plane was successfully carried out at around 16:00 pm. Photo uploaded from the main body of the plane looks out of shape and looks no writing AirAsia.

"Currently, the ongoing process of lifting fuselage AA QZ 8501 in Karimata Strait," chirp twitter Basarnas posted at 19:15 pm.

The main body of AirAsia plane lifted and placed in the vessel Crest Onyx. "Finally fuselage successfully brought onboard Crest Onyx. Thank God," chirping Basarnas.

http://news.detik.com/read/2015/02/...basarnas-mengangkat-bodi-utama-airasia-qz8501

 

[Dr. Know?]

A little more about the bodies found, 103. Translated.

Body Lift Aircraft Successfully Basarnas QZ8501

Jakarta, Indonesia CNN - National Search and Rescue Agency has raised the main body aircraft (fuselage) AirAsia QZ8501 of Strait Karimata, Friday (27/2) afternoon. Currently QZ8501 fuselage was on his way to Jakarta to be submitted by Basarnas to the National Transportation Safety Committee (NTSC).

Basarnas Chief Marshal FH Bambang Soelistyo estimate QZ8501 fuselage will arrive in Jakarta on Sunday (1/3) or Monday (2/3) morning.

"Fuselage has been successfully removed by a team in the afternoon. Tonight fuselage has moved to Jakarta and taken by boat Crest Onyx and Pacitan SAR vessel. It is estimated that the fastest on Sunday (1/3) night or Monday (2/3) until the morning. Later we will hand over the fuselage to NTSC, "said Soelistyo told CNN Indonesia, Friday (27/2).

Soelistyo added in the fuselage that has raised the operating team did not find the body of a victim who was still there. According Soelistyo, evacuation of casualties from the fuselage it has done since the end of January.

"No casualties were found again. Because of our (Basarnas) has issued 28 bodies from the fuselage shortly after the Indonesian Army troops withdrawn from the operating area (late January 2014)," said Soelistyo.

Until Friday (27/2) tonight existing total 103 bodies of victims of the disaster QZ8501 successfully evacuated by rescue teams in the area of ​​operation. Basarnas known will hold a press conference to provide the latest information on the development of casualty evacuation operations QZ8501 Saturday (28/2) tomorrow.

QZ8501 AirAsia aircraft departing from the international airport Surabaya to Singapore on Sunday (28/12) morning carrying 155 passengers and 7 crew members on board. The plane lost contact at 06:17 pm. Shortly before contact was lost, the aircraft had requested rises to a height of 32,000 feet to the 36,000 thousand feet. However, permission has not been granted, the plane had already lost contact and is found in the waters of the Strait Karimata fall by the National Search and Rescue Agency. (Utd)

http://www.cnnindonesia.com/nasiona...asarnas-berhasil-angkat-badan-pesawat-qz8501/

No more found in the main body, darn.

 

[Snoods]

Oh no, what a disappointment they were unable to recover anymore bodies. And the pictures of the main fuselage being brought up doesn't much look like it did when it was on the ocean floor.

http://news.detik.com/read/2015/02/...basarnas-mengangkat-bodi-utama-airasia-qz8501

 

[Dr. Know?]

Oh no, what a disappointment they were unable to recover anymore bodies. And the pictures of the main fuselage being brought up doesn't much look like it did when it was on the ocean floor.

http://news.detik.com/read/2015/02/...basarnas-mengangkat-bodi-utama-airasia-qz8501

Thanks for posting the pictures. I couldn't find one earlier with a jpg link to copy.

No it's doesn't look like the pictures on the seabed. It's a piece of flattened metal now. gah gar...

 

[SouthAussie]

Oh no, what a disappointment they were unable to recover anymore bodies. And the pictures of the main fuselage being brought up doesn't much look like it did when it was on the ocean floor.

http://news.detik.com/read/2015/02/...basarnas-mengangkat-bodi-utama-airasia-qz8501

Thanks snoods!

Well, I guess the wing was not still 'intact' by the time they were done with it, and 'mangled' is right :facepalm: ........


"The mangled wreckage, the largest part of the plane retrieved, was pulled from the sea Friday and loaded onto a ship, national search and rescue chief Bambang Soelistyo told AFP. "We have retrieved on Friday the last and large part of the AirAsia fuselage with a wing still intact," Mr Soelistyo told AFP. No bodies were found during the course of the operation.

Mr Soelistyo said in a press conference on Saturday that authorities will decide on a final date for the salvage operation after a meeting with the victims' families scheduled for next week."

http://www.straitstimes.com/news/as...nal-major-part-jets-fuse#sthash.zjO27125.dpuf

 

[SouthAussie]

I wonder what happened with the cockpit. Did they ever get to retrieve it, did they get the captain out? I don't believe that we have heard about that.


"He said a meeting with the next-of-kin of the plane's passengers and crew is planned as part of the closure of the operation."

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/airasia-crash-indonesia-officially-ends-search-operations/531222-2.html

 

[Snoods]

I wonder what happened with the cockpit. Did they ever get to retrieve it, did they get the captain out? I don't believe that we have heard about that.


"He said a meeting with the next-of-kin of the plane's passengers and crew is planned as part of the closure of the operation."

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/airasia-crash-indonesia-officially-ends-search-operations/531222-2.html

The cockpit seems to have been glossed over, hasn't it? And I think they're trying to pull a fast one by telling us that somewhere attached to that wing is the rest of the main fuselage lol.

It's the Emperor's New Clothes. 'Look at the fuselage we're bringing up, everybody! It's extremely fuselage-y, isn't it?'

 

[Snoods]

I wonder what happened with the cockpit. Did they ever get to retrieve it, did they get the captain out? I don't believe that we have heard about that.


"He said a meeting with the next-of-kin of the plane's passengers and crew is planned as part of the closure of the operation."

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/airasia-crash-indonesia-officially-ends-search-operations/531222-2.html

BBM Maybe closure for Airasia, but certainly not closure for all those grieving people whose family members are still floating around the Java Sea. How heart-breaking for all those families to be returning home without their loved one(s).

 

[Snoods]

I found a picture of the actual fuselage being brought ashore.

“The combined rescue team from SKK Migas (Upstream Oil and Gas Regulatory Special Task Force – ed), Basarnas and DiversClub are moving from the rescue spot, transporting the jet fuselage which has been loaded onto Crest Onyx,” said the Chief of National Search and Rescue Agency (Basarnas) Marshal FH Bambang Soelistyo in a press conference on Saturday morning.

http://www.globalindonesianvoices.com/19387/last-piece-of-airasia-qz8501-fuselage-retrieved/