Steven Avery: Guilty of Teresa Halbach's Murder? #2

[pigbunny]

Agreed, Ilex. Came here to see if anyone else came to that conclusion. The only thing I really realized is how very little we were told from the 2 seasons of MAM.
Even from the very very beginning, I was on board with everyone else, and I, like most of you, was asking people I knew about their opinion.
(MOO) A Wisconsin prosecutor in my family laughed at my upset when asking her and sad there was SO much more to the story than we were led to believe, and I didn't believe her. I figured she was "part of the problem" as a DA in another county. The feds. I couldn't have been more wrong.
If you are someone who is still convinced of his innocense, I would implore you to watch "Convicting a Murderer." (Not to get political, but if you're hesitant based on the platform, you can binge it now because all the episodes are finally out, and not have to keep it for months.)

It might not sway your opinion, but if you're someone who really, really cares about the case, shouldn't we want to look at all the evidence actually and not just "all the evidence" the filmmakers think you need to draw the conclusion?

MOO please don't hurt me, i'm a passionate local yokel.<3

 

[Ilex]

Agreed, Ilex. Came here to see if anyone else came to that conclusion. The only thing I really realized is how very little we were told from the 2 seasons of MAM.
Even from the very very beginning, I was on board with everyone else, and I, like most of you, was asking people I knew about their opinion.
(MOO) A Wisconsin prosecutor in my family laughed at my upset when asking her and sad there was SO much more to the story than we were led to believe, and I didn't believe her. I figured she was "part of the problem" as a DA in another county. The feds. I couldn't have been more wrong.
If you are someone who is still convinced of his innocense, I would implore you to watch "Convicting a Murderer." (Not to get political, but if you're hesitant based on the platform, you can binge it now because all the episodes are finally out, and not have to keep it for months.)

It might not sway your opinion, but if you're someone who really, really cares about the case, shouldn't we want to look at all the evidence actually and not just "all the evidence" the filmmakers think you need to draw the conclusion?

MOO please don't hurt me, i'm a passionate local yokel.<3

Like you, I watched MaM, all 10 episodes. By the end of it, I was fuming. I felt BA was railroaded, SA was innocent and TH's killer was on the loose having gotten away with it. I came here and was shocked that people were saying SA was guilty. So I read the transcripts of the trial and was shocked that so much was left out of MaM. But even then, I remembered things KZ had said so I shrugged most of it off. Then I watched the first episode of CaK and again shrugged. So what. CO spreading rumors...ho hum. But by the end of the 2nd episode I began to question. Then by episode 3 my heart sank because it was clear not only SA was guilty, but so was BA. The last episode we watched tonight and it showed how complicit the entire family was in those jailhouse phonecalls. It was ugly and you really get how horrible TH's last moments were. I agree, everyone needs to watch CaK.

 

[iluvmua]

Like you, I watched MaM, all 10 episodes. By the end of it, I was fuming. I felt BA was railroaded, SA was innocent and TH's killer was on the loose having gotten away with it. I came here and was shocked that people were saying SA was guilty. So I read the transcripts of the trial and was shocked that so much was left out of MaM. But even then, I remembered things KZ had said so I shrugged most of it off. Then I watched the first episode of CaK and again shrugged. So what. CO spreading rumors...ho hum. But by the end of the 2nd episode I began to question. Then by episode 3 my heart sank because it was clear not only SA was guilty, but so was BA. The last episode we watched tonight and it showed how complicit the entire family was in those jailhouse phonecalls. It was ugly and you really get how horrible TH's last moments were. I agree, everyone needs to watch CaK.

I've always thought he was guilty and watched the first two episodes of MaM.

SO much was either purposly left out or scenes from the trial were spliced together to make it look like said person said this or purposly withheld this etc.

Steven Avery is 1000 percent a monster

 

[imstilla.grandma]

In a new motion filed Thursday, Avery’s attorney, Kathleen Zellner, said the motion is to request testing for touch DNA in the RAV-4 that belonged to Teresa Halbach.

Steven Avery files motion asking for new DNA testing of evidence

Steven Avery is asking for new DNA testing of evidence that was previously used to convict him.

www.wbay.com

 

[Joe Friday]

Not really weather you would expect to see someone out without a coat, much less a shirt.


Summary

Temperature (°F)	Actual	Historic Avg.	Record

High Temp	54	48.5	72
Low Temp	39	32.9	1
Day Average Temp	45.78	40.7	-

Hobart, WI Weather History | Weather Underground

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[Sustained]

In a new motion filed Thursday, Avery’s attorney, Kathleen Zellner, said the motion is to request testing for touch DNA in the RAV-4 that belonged to Teresa Halbach.

Steven Avery files motion asking for new DNA testing of evidence

Steven Avery is asking for new DNA testing of evidence that was previously used to convict him.

www.wbay.com

Good luck finding any touch DNA after 18+ years

 

[Joe Friday]

Good luck finding any touch DNA after 18+ years

In that amount of time, I would suspect many mice have made Teresa's vehicle their home and passed it down to their heirs, who are still happily living there with children of their own. I don't imagine the vehicle has been sitting in a climate controlled, secure, dust proof, rodent proof facility all this time. Try getting some DNA out of that.

(Thinking of Reggie in Forty Eight Hours going to the garage to get his car, I wonder if they have charged the battery lately)

JMO

 

[RANCH]

State appeals court to review Steven Avery's motion for alternate suspect

A state appeals court will decide Steven Avery’s motion for a hearing on evidence about an alternate suspect in the case.

fox11online.com

Zellner lost her request to stay her motion for a hearing on an alternate suspect so she could instead try to get the RAV4 tested for DNA.

 

[RANCH]

Steven Avery is still trying to appeal his conviction. Here are the most recent updates.

Steven Avery and his nephew Brendan Dassey are both serving life sentences for the 2005 murder of Teresa Halbach.

www.postcrescent.com

 

[RANCH]

Prosecutors ask court to deny Avery attempt to pin Halbach murder on alternate suspect

Steven Avery is serving a life sentence for the 2005 murder of Teresa Halbach, a freelance photographer.

fox11online.com

A state appeals court should reject Steven Avery's appeal seeking to introduce evidence about an alternate suspect in the murder of Teresa Halbach, the Wisconsin Department of Justice argues in a brief filed Monday.