Stranger abduction theory

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I, too, do not believe this is a stranger abduction at all, almost 99% sure, that is. Why, because this activity at the school was a perfect time for opportunity vs any other normal day. This case is too clean to not have been planned out. I don't think it was a spur of the moment abduction in other words.. and the SM knew in advance all of the ways of the school. . . she is the one who saw him last and the one who knew in advance what her best chances were to pull this off. Maybe she worked with someone else, but, she knew in advance and opportunity points to her.
 
~ Approximately 3,200-4,600 non-family abductions are reported to law
enforcement each year.
~ Most offenders are someone known to the family, such as a casual
acquaintance.
~ Of those reported, approximately 200-300 are total stranger abductions,
someone not known to the family kidnaps the child.

While I'm relieved that the annual number of non-family abductions is low, this number obviously varies and is dependent upon other factors, one of those factors is an abductor's failed attempt...

~ 114,600 stranger abductions are attempted annually and most involve an
attempt to lure a child to a car.


Google "attempted abduction" and you'll see there is no shortage of daily reports, occurring in just about every state across the U.S. I'm reminded (again) after seeing the following report on my local news here in Maine; It only takes a second...

Father Grabs Child From Alleged Abductor:
3-Year-Old Child Not Harmed

A woman told police that she and her husband were sitting at a picnic table when they noticed a man who appeared to be watching their son play. The woman told police that she had noticed the same person in the area for the past couple of days.

She said the man walked toward her son, picked up and started to run with him. The woman's husband immediately ran toward the man and was able to catch up with him and grab their son out of his arms.

Police said the pair got into a scuffle and the alleged abductor managed to run off. A short-time later, a police officer saw the man further down Ocean Park Road and immediately placed him under arrest.

Eric Auger, 37, of Saco, is charged with criminal restraint and was taken to the York County Jail. Auger does have a criminal record, which includes: obstructing government administration, disorderly conduct, criminal mischief, reckless conduct, operating under the influence, obstructing a public way and violation of conditions of release.

http://www.wmtw.com/news/24009720/detail.html
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Thankfully this creep's attempt failed, he was caught, and this little guy was unharmed but the reality is that it would have required so little for this creep to have pulled it off. Had this little guy's parents simply turned their eyes and attention away for just a few seconds, this little boy would/could have been a number added to the non-family/stranger abductions statistic rather than to the stranger-attempted abduction statistic.

I'm pointing this out because Kyron could just as easily have fallen prey to a child predator. It only takes a few seconds...

Reference Link; http://www.ncmec.org/missingkids/servlet/PublicHomeServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US
 
I think of Adam Walsh. They were in a crowded store and just like that he was gone, nothing raised suspicion and we all know the out come.
 
LillyRush said:
With all of this in mind....Could he still be inside the school and the dogs missed his scent there?
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It is possible but not highly likely.

I hope, though, that with school now out for the summer, LE will arrange to have the ventilation system turned off for a day, close the place up tight and then go through with a cadaver dog.

And then have a dog present for a couple hours while they turn the ventilation system back on.

Air currents inside of buildings can have odd turns and pools that are not readily apparent to human perceptions.
 
nomoresorrow said:
~ Approximately 3,200-4,600 non-family abductions are reported to law
enforcement each year.
~ Most offenders are someone known to the family, such as a casual
acquaintance.
~ Of those reported, approximately 200-300 are total stranger abductions,
someone not known to the family kidnaps the child.

While I'm relieved that the annual number of non-family abductions is low, this number obviously varies and is dependent upon other factors, one of those factors is an abductor's failed attempt...

~ 114,600 stranger abductions are attempted annually and most involve an
attempt to lure a child to a car.


Google "attempted abduction" and you'll see there is no shortage of daily reports, occurring in just about every state across the U.S. I'm reminded (again) after seeing the following report on my local news here in Maine; It only takes a second...



Thankfully this creep's attempt failed, he was caught, and this little guy was unharmed but the reality is that it would have required so little for this creep to have pulled it off. Had this little guy's parents simply turned their eyes and attention away for just a few seconds, this little boy would/could have been a number added to the non-family/stranger abductions statistic rather than to the stranger-attempted abduction statistic.

I'm pointing this out because Kyron could just as easily have fallen prey to a child predator. It only takes a few seconds...

Reference Link; http://www.ncmec.org/missingkids/servlet/PublicHomeServlet?LanguageCountry=en_US
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I read this story and it is a pretty clear example of seriously mentally ill people being on the streets with no meds, no treatment, and no one being responsible for keeping them safe and keeping the rest of society safe from them.

I wonder how many of these failed stranger attempted abductions are committed by those who would fail "fit to stand trial" evaluations? It is frightening.
 
I agree with a lot of you on here that it was someone familiar to Kyron but not someone within Kyron's family circle. I am leaning towards an older brother or father of one of Kyron's friends, maybe someone in the family circle of a classmate that was jealous of Kyron and his project and wanted to do something about it. Kyron's project looks a little over the top for a seven year old and I can imagine a classmate getting upset that there's was not that good, thought Kyron cheated etc etc and crazy parent decides he's sick of his kid getting the 'short end of the stick'.

That a stranger just happened to be in there that day to kidnap a kid is hard for me to fathom, not that it might not have happened. But I am leaning towards a parent or older sibling.

I am not feeling like the SM is involved. I actually feel kind of sorry for her. I mean, I'm the one taking my girl to preschool everyday so I'm the 'last to see her' when I drop her off. It would sicken me if I got accused of something like that god forbid anything ever happened to her.
 
The Reality of Child Abductions

The circumstances surrounding child abduction are often quite different from the way they're shown in TV shows and movies.

Here are some of the realities of child abduction:


*Most kids who are reported missing have run away or there has been a misunderstanding with their parents about where they were supposed to be.

*Of the kids and teens who are truly abducted, most are taken by a family member or an acquaintance; 25% of kids are taken by strangers.

*Almost all kids kidnapped by strangers are taken by men, and about two thirds of stranger abductions involve female children.

*Most abducted kids are in their teens.

*Kids are rarely abducted from school grounds.

http://kidshealth.org/parent/firstaid_safe/travel/abductions.html
 
scandi said:
It sure is down on the list of statistics for missing children acc. to Marc Klaas, 3 to 1 against it. That has to account for something:

" . . Based on the identity of the perpetrator, there are three distinct types of kidnapping: kidnapping by a relative of the victim or "family kidnapping" (49 percent), kidnapping by an acquaintance of the victim or "acquaintance kidnapping" (27 percent) and kidnapping by a stranger to the victim or "stranger kidnapping" (24 percent).

http://www.klaaskids.org/pg-mc-mcstatistics.htm


I question the high # of 24% for 'stranger kidnapping' as I thought it was below 1%. That might be for children who are murdered.

I do wish Marc would stop in and give us his ideas on this. xox
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Actually I thought I had read that it was 5% by strangers but since MK would know much more about the true statistics than I do I will rely on him.

If it has increased from a very low percentage to now almost being a 1/4 of abductions are being done by strangers then that is chilling to the bone. It means there are more and more of them than ever before.

And of course percentages in the end doesn't really assure us of anything anyway.

One child.......one stranger predator is all that has to happen to a child.

imo
 
Article by Dan Rather, Published May 2010: (BBM)
To pick just one example among many, Portland, Oregon is without doubt one of the nation's treasures. It has been voted one of the best places to live and work. But according to police, the city and its outlying communities has become a hub for the sexual exploitation of children. In a recent nationwide sting by Federal, state and local law enforcement agencies, Portland ranked second in the country for the number of rescued child prostitutes. And according to Doug Justus, the workhorse sergeant in charge of Portland's tiny Vice Detail, many of the children caught up in this are middle class kids from the area.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/dan-rather/pornland-oregon-child-pro_b_580035.html
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A far cry from the many public "Mayberry" depictions published and/or aired. While "this" may seem far-removed from the lives of many Portlander's who are busy working and raising families, that does not preclude it from happening and going on around them. And, because it is no respecter of boundaries, imaginary or otherwise, it does not preclude it from entering one's "safe zone." (i.e., Mayberry RFD...) While this story may predominantly speak of female victims, don't kid yourself, there is just as much of an appetite for young males, albeit less talked about. IMO, as unpopular as it may be, I believe that Kyron was abducted by a child predator, and it wasn't Barney Fife. JMHO ~
 
Going back and reading the threads from the beginning of the case. Found this:

[ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5253270&postcount=251"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - OR - Kyron Horman, 7 yo Second grader, Portland, 4 June 2010 - Part #1[/ame]
 
Creepy man could have been the Superintendent. I remember ours. He always walked around very slow and spoke very soft. He also walked around alone. He would nod and pat students softly on the head. We all thought he was creepy. Of course at the time we had no idea who he was. He just some creepy man at our event
 
Too bad they didn't post a description of the "creepy man" (I'm sure they told police what he looked like). If he had a blue shirt with white hair & beard, that would match what some have posted on the visions and dream thread **stare face**.
 
I wonder if the bus drivers have all been checked out,weren't the buses bringing the students in around 8:30 to 8:45.I'm not sure but did read the SM came in early at 8am instead of Kyron riding the bus.So,in most places the busdrivers take the buses home till they go back to pick them up for the day.Many keep the buses at thier home.
 
winterrose said:
I wonder if the bus drivers have all been checked out,weren't the buses bringing the students in around 8:30 to 8:45.I'm not sure but did read the SM came in early at 8am instead of Kyron riding the bus.So,in most places the busdrivers take the buses home till they go back to pick them up for the day.Many keep the buses at thier home.
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Really??? I have never heard that before! It definitely doesn't happen that way around here...buses are driven back to the bus parking lot that is owned by the school district. Most people who drive school buses do not have properties large enough to park school buses on--at least in my area anyway. I have never seen a school bus parked at a house.
 
eleven said:
Really??? I have never heard that before! It definitely doesn't happen that way around here...buses are driven back to the bus parking lot that is owned by the school district. Most people who drive school buses do not have properties large enough to park school buses on--at least in my area anyway. I have never seen a school bus parked at a house.
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There are quite a few that live in the areas of their bus routes here where I live and they will take the bus home to their property in the afternoon when they are through.

It saves time and money rather than having to go all the way to the school to pick up the bus each morning and then go back to start picking up kids in the morning.

IMO
 
This whole area of Oregon is known for having alot of occultic/wiccan groups,maybe the person who took him was a stranger to Kyron.But what if not a stranger to people who knew about kyron,his behavior,activities,had access to knowledge of family happenings.There have been many changes in the family this year,have there been people surrounding any of them that could have targeted Kyron?Are any friends or family members involved in a wiccan/occult lifestyle or group?It could be someone they wouldn't suspect.It could be teens as well as adults.
 
oceanblueeyes said:
There are quite a few that live in the areas of their bus routes here where I live and they will take the bus home to their property in the afternoon when they are through.

It saves time and money rather than having to go all the way to the school to pick up the bus each morning and then go back to start picking up kids in the morning.

IMO
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Yep,around here alot of them keep thier buses all the time at thier homes.
 
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