To all who believe Caylee is ALIVE, explain this?

[seekingjustice**]

Another question I ask: if Caylee is alive, then WHY, with a reward of $225K for info leading to the safe return of Caylee, is NOT ONE PERSON stepping forward to reveal info they have? NOT ONE! Think about that. $225K gives folks a LOT of reasons to come forward and talk. About 225,000 reasons!

Exactly right SleuthyGal. Not one SINGLE person knows of this person!! She must be invisible

 

[seekingjustice**]

I read the posts from the "Caylee is Alive" thread and I feel like I'm on another planet to these posters.

Why, if Caylee was abducted by ZG and her sister Samantha, there has not been ONE SINGLE person come forward to verify the fact that these people exist. Surely they have friends and family. Someone has to know of them. Where are they?

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Why didn't she confide in someone....I mean anyone, her brother, mother, father. Just someone. Think about it. Who could bear the pain on their own, your baby has been kidnapped. You would be screaming to someone for help.

Why did Casey go out partying, having a great time with her friends after the kidnapping. Is this realistic, think about it. Would you, could you?

Why was Casey having such a great time leaving myspace and facebook messages to all her friends, after ZG kidnapped her baby girl?

Why did all of Casey's friends not notice anything different in her behaviour? She didn't seem upset, stressed, worried, why?

Is this the behaviour of a mother whose child has been kidnapped, or of a mother who has finally got the freedom to be a free 'party girl' again?

I mean, this is only about her behaviour. I haven't even mentioned the evidence. I just cannot for the life of me, understand how anybody could possibly not see the truth. Actions speak louder than words.
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very well said, ITA with your logic. Casey Anthony has no concern for anyone except saving her own A$$. Her *fear* stems from the fact that she is going to be charged with murdering her daughter and may face the death penalty.....and if I'm wrong, I will join robot dog and eat my new cellphone along with crow.

LOL...I don't think you have any worry about having to join robot dog and eat your new cell IMO. You are spot on.

 

[tehcloser]

IMO the reason Casey isn't upset is because Caylee wasn't taken, she was given away. If they were going to kick her out, they were going to lose them both. I think the reason she isn't giving in is because she doesn't have to, she hasn't been cornered yet. When the officers took her to Universal, she played the game until there weren't any moves left. She couldn't adopt her out because of grandparents rights in the state of Florida. She's right back at her favorite position as the center of attention in that family. I think Casey is making the prove they love her best. Seriously, is anyone looking for a live child? What happens if after they've use so many resources to find a body Caylee is found alive? Everyone is going to complain about how much time and money was "wasted". Again, this is just my opinion.

If Casey "gave" Caylee away, don't you think by now, the person she "gave" her to would have already came forward. At this point I would imagin "if" someone has her...they are looking at some sort of charges too. They would be more than happy to give her back to avoid that.

 

[TxLady2]

As far as Nejame refusing to speak about the tips given to the Anthonys, he is not concerned with Casey, Caylee, or anything else regarding the case... his only concern is defending Cindy and George.
I don't know about anyone else's feelings but watching him speak last night made me sick! He looks like a snake to me. Sorry... but he's just too slick!

 

[seekingjustice**]

Originally Posted by kaych
Put yourself in her shoes, if your baby was missing, kidnapped by ???....would you act this way?
Not if I knew she wasn't dead.

So are you saying the only reason Casey was acting this way is because she knew Caylee was dead???????????????????

I am confused too tehcloser

 

[kidz110]

IMO the reason Casey isn't upset is because Caylee wasn't taken, she was given away. If they were going to kick her out, they were going to lose them both. I think the reason she isn't giving in is because she doesn't have to, she hasn't been cornered yet. She couldn't adopt her out because of grandparents rights in the state of Florida. Seriously, is anyone looking for a live child? What happens if after they've use so many resources to find a body Caylee is found alive? Everyone is going to complain about how much time and money was "wasted". Again, this is just my opinion.

Seriously, are the Anthonys using their "Find Caylee Fund" to search for a live Caylee? If they truly believe she is alive they would be doing that. Trust me, when a family member is missing you need to know. You need to know because anything you may find out could not be as bad as the thoughts that keep going through your mind. I have been there. I know.

 

[SleuthyGal]

Exactly right SleuthyGal. Not one SINGLE person knows of this person!! She must be invisible

Forget about ZG and Sam for a moment. They don't exist. But let's say someone else has Caylee. Pick ANYONE. This is an international search. Highly visible case. You can't avoid this case if you tried! $225,000 reward. Who wouldn't want that money? Anyone? I can't think of one person who wouldn't want that reward or wouldn't have someone in their lives or know of someone who wouldn't want it. The point is, if someone could make ONE phone call and end up the recipient of $225K THEY WOULD. They just would!

NOT ONE CALL LEADING TO A SAFE/ALIVE CAYLEE. With all the millions of people out there who are paying attention and who would love to be the recipient of that money. NOT ONE. Easiest payday of someone's life. NOT ONE CALL.

You know why? Because Caylee is dead and has been since June. That's why.

 

[capoly]

Let's forget what we all observers (believers and non-believers) think and let's see for a minute what the PROTAGONISTS of this case really think through their actions.

Is Baez preparing to find the baby alive or is Baez preparing for a child negligent case? Neither! Baez is preparing for a murder/accidental death case. All his actions, all his dealing with Casey, all his press releases are those of a defense attorney in a murder trial. The latest? Why stop the process of examining physical evidence? That would confirm an alive Caylee and an abduction, the existence of another person involved. Does he really want us to believe he discuss Caylee with Casey for 8 hours in his office when he actually files for something like this? Why is he not allowing his client to talk to police - under his supervision and guidance to make sure nothing is twisted - and let Casey tell the police who really has her baby? Because nobody has the baby. This might be a game for Casey but it is not for Baez. And he very well knows that this could be a death penalty kind of trial. So why would he play with his client's life if he thought the baby is alive and they can find a formula to work with LE to get to the bottom of this?

Is what LE doing, the work of Law Enforcement that looks for a baby still ALIVE?Unfortunately not. And I am not saying they don't want to do that. The facts and evidence they have unfortunately makes them do things that says only one thing: They are looking to locate a body and how that baby died. I am saying their actions are not the actions of LE who has even 1% hope/info/evidence that the child is somewhere alive and they are bringing in people of interest for questioning daily and gave a sketch to new stations to play and addressed the kidnappers publicly. What is LE doing? Looking with the help of Equusearch for a deceased Caylee, and building a case of physical evidence and circumstantial evidence agains the mother. They are only being PC when they still say ''we are looking for Caylee alive or dead''. That's what they say and that is the right thing to say. But their actions say differently.

Are the Anthonys acting like people who think Caylee is alive? No they are not. Even if publicly or/and privately hold on to that hope, none of their actions is in accord with people looking for a baby still alive or people who their grandchild has been abducted or hidden someplace. Beth Holloway and/or relatives-friends of the Holloway family went down to Aruba immediately to search for her MISSING at the time daughter. Why Cindy and George not even visited the embassy of those countries they believe Caylee has been to? Why they haven't been on an international campaign to inform those countries about Caylee? Why they are not travelling to those states in the US where they say they receive tips from? Why are they spending money and energy on Casey's bail if they really think the child is alive at the moment? Why are they holding vigils when they could be walking through neighbourhoods and following tips?

Why did Mark Nejame spend all his valuable time on tv trying to make people understand that Cindy and Anthony are through a process of grief and people should allow them to do that? If the Anthony's hired this layer to help them with their quest and campaign to find an alive Caylee as Nejame said (even though a PRIVATE DETECTIVE would have been a more appropriate choice don't you think?), why did he spend all that valuable on-air time explaining the grief the grandparents are going through and the possibility that their daughter Casey is facing serious jail time for horrendeous crimes? Why didn't he spend a few minutes talking about organising a search for an alive Caylee? Why HE REFUSED to speak about areas and tips given to them about possible sightings of Caylee? Why did he said the LE asked them to not talk about this tips this since the LE are working a theory on a dead Caylee and since Cindy attacked the LE for looking for a dead Caylee? If Cindy and George were really looking for an alive Caylee they wouldn't give 2 cents what the LE instructed them to do. I mean they surely had no trouble going on-air and attacking the LE. So why nobody can act as someone who is looking for an alive baby?

Because at this point none of the PROTAGONISTS of this case really believes the baby is alive. Grandparents might have sunked in their denial and hope and despair to find her alive, but their logic is what is keeping them from taking appropriate actions for an alive missing baby. Now all of us are just observers, and I don't think we can convince one another to chance their mind about little Caylee being alive or not. We all come to this with different perspectives and life experiences.

But how can anyone denied that all the main protagonists of this case are preparing for a murder trial?

Logic dictates. Good post, thanks.

 

[100%Agave]

Casey isn't at the Baez office to work on her case. She's there to escape the tension in her parent's home! The protesters, the parents breathing down her neck...it's a likely pressure cooker in there. So she has the legal right to be at her lawyer's office and there she is, hanging out. It's an escape.

See, IMO, that dog won't hunt. You have the right to visit with your attorney as much as needed to work on your case. You do not have the right to visit your attorney so get out of the house and avoid the stress.

That is absolutely stretching the rules. I would imagine that you won't hear out of her or her lawyer's mouth that she is only there hanging out to avoid stress because she can't do that. She can only be at her lawyer's office to work on her case. To do anything else is in violation of her confinement.

 

[missy8394]

I just don't see how someone could kill a baby and then go about everyday life. Even if she wasn't distraught, you would think that every time someone mentioned Caylee's name, or asked about her, she would show some form of guilt or even fear of getting caught. We're talking about killing someone, lying and theft are one thing (actually two things), she did that a lot so she knew how to react, but how do you kill your child and not do something, anything out of the ordinary?? Nobody noticed anything different about her, wouldn't it be an involuntary reaction to at least show something? She's never even shown any fear. If she gave Caylee away, I think she would feel it's her child, her right and she wasn't doing anything wrong...no reason to be afraid or feel guilty.

If y'all are right and she did kill Caylee, I think she needs to get the best medical treatment her parents money can buy. She needs to be physically and mentally 100% healthy, so that for the rest of her life, every time she sees a little girl, hears a little one laugh or call out mommy, she will know.

 

[SleuthyGal]

See, IMO, that dog won't hunt. You have the right to visit with your attorney as much as needed to work on your case. You do not have the right to visit your attorney so get out of the house and avoid the stress.

Ahh but attorney/client meetings are protected. So how exactly would anyone know what is being done/discussed within the Baez offices? LE can't go there. The DA? Can't go there. It's protected. That dog may not hunt but that dog is sleeping in the Baez office. They are not discussing things 6 to 8 hrs a day. Oh don't get me wrong: Baez may be billing for all this 'client' time, and there are probably some meetings and discussions, sure, but Casey is there to escape the dramarama and tension at home, IMHO.

 

[tx_Dot]

I searched Casey's friends on facebook ,no LR,and I don't believe LR was on her myspace friends.To get ZG's real name ,they would of had to of known each other because on myspace it does not say her name.

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Who was on Casey's MS July 14th ??.......wasn't there much deleting on July 15th ??

Was ZG's name on her MS prior to July 15th ??

 

[missy8394]

Highly visible case. You can't avoid this case if you tried!
You know why? [/QUOTE]


I'm in Texas and I'm always asking people if they're following the case and 9 out of 10 people know "it has something to do with a little girl in Florida being kidnapped. With all of the "presidential stuff" going on...

 

[Rose Mom]

This is an international search. Highly visible case. You can't avoid this case if you tried!

http://www.newsday.com/

My local paper covering all of Long Island/New York City .......... Nothing here

 

[SleuthyGal]

See? Everyone knows *something* about it even if they are not paying attention or following it on a daily/weekly basis. They know there's a little toddler from FL who is missing. This story has 'legs,' as they say. Just because there aren't DAILY articles in newspapers doesn't mean that people haven't heard of this case and have zero knowledge of it. Are you saying that folks in TX or on Long Island don't have TVs? They don't get national news? They can't see Nancy Grace or Larry King Live or ABC's 20/20 or FOX News or MSNBC?

Sorry, I don't buy that no one has come forward to collect $225K if they could. Someone/somewhere would know something IF she were alive! Common sense tells you this.

 

[chizap]

Let's forget what we all observers (believers and non-believers) think and let's see for a minute what the PROTAGONISTS of this case really think through their actions.

Is Baez preparing to find the baby alive or is Baez preparing for a child negligent case? Neither! Baez is preparing for a murder/accidental death case. All his actions, all his dealing with Casey, all his press releases are those of a defense attorney in a murder trial. The latest? Why stop the process of examining physical evidence? That would confirm an alive Caylee and an abduction, the existence of another person involved. Does he really want us to believe he discuss Caylee with Casey for 8 hours in his office when he actually files for something like this? Why is he not allowing his client to talk to police - under his supervision and guidance to make sure nothing is twisted - and let Casey tell the police who really has her baby? Because nobody has the baby. This might be a game for Casey but it is not for Baez. And he very well knows that this could be a death penalty kind of trial. So why would he play with his client's life if he thought the baby is alive and they can find a formula to work with LE to get to the bottom of this?

Is what LE doing, the work of Law Enforcement that looks for a baby still ALIVE?Unfortunately not. And I am not saying they don't want to do that. The facts and evidence they have unfortunately makes them do things that says only one thing: They are looking to locate a body and how that baby died. I am saying their actions are not the actions of LE who has even 1% hope/info/evidence that the child is somewhere alive and they are bringing in people of interest for questioning daily and gave a sketch to new stations to play and addressed the kidnappers publicly. What is LE doing? Looking with the help of Equusearch for a deceased Caylee, and building a case of physical evidence and circumstantial evidence agains the mother. They are only being PC when they still say ''we are looking for Caylee alive or dead''. That's what they say and that is the right thing to say. But their actions say differently.

Are the Anthonys acting like people who think Caylee is alive? No they are not. Even if publicly or/and privately hold on to that hope, none of their actions is in accord with people looking for a baby still alive or people who their grandchild has been abducted or hidden someplace. Beth Holloway and/or relatives-friends of the Holloway family went down to Aruba immediately to search for her MISSING at the time daughter. Why Cindy and George not even visited the embassy of those countries they believe Caylee has been to? Why they haven't been on an international campaign to inform those countries about Caylee? Why they are not travelling to those states in the US where they say they receive tips from? Why are they spending money and energy on Casey's bail if they really think the child is alive at the moment? Why are they holding vigils when they could be walking through neighbourhoods and following tips?

Why did Mark Nejame spend all his valuable time on tv trying to make people understand that Cindy and Anthony are through a process of grief and people should allow them to do that? If the Anthony's hired this layer to help them with their quest and campaign to find an alive Caylee as Nejame said (even though a PRIVATE DETECTIVE would have been a more appropriate choice don't you think?), why did he spend all that valuable on-air time explaining the grief the grandparents are going through and the possibility that their daughter Casey is facing serious jail time for horrendeous crimes? Why didn't he spend a few minutes talking about organising a search for an alive Caylee? Why HE REFUSED to speak about areas and tips given to them about possible sightings of Caylee? Why did he said the LE asked them to not talk about this tips this since the LE are working a theory on a dead Caylee and since Cindy attacked the LE for looking for a dead Caylee? If Cindy and George were really looking for an alive Caylee they wouldn't give 2 cents what the LE instructed them to do. I mean they surely had no trouble going on-air and attacking the LE. So why nobody can act as someone who is looking for an alive baby?

Because at this point none of the PROTAGONISTS of this case really believes the baby is alive. Grandparents might have sunked in their denial and hope and despair to find her alive, but their logic is what is keeping them from taking appropriate actions for an alive missing baby. Now all of us are just observers, and I don't think we can convince one another to chance their mind about little Caylee being alive or not. We all come to this with different perspectives and life experiences.

But how can anyone denied that all the main protagonists of this case are preparing for a murder trial?

Excellent post-and your English is great!

 

[seekingjustice**]

Forget about ZG and Sam for a moment. They don't exist. But let's say someone else has Caylee. Pick ANYONE. This is an international search. Highly visible case. You can't avoid this case if you tried! $225,000 reward. Who wouldn't want that money? Anyone? I can't think of one person who wouldn't want that reward or wouldn't have someone in their lives or know of someone who wouldn't want it. The point is, if someone could make ONE phone call and end up the recipient of $225K THEY WOULD. They just would!

NOT ONE CALL LEADING TO A SAFE/ALIVE CAYLEE. With all the millions of people out there who are paying attention and who would love to be the recipient of that money. NOT ONE. Easiest payday of someone's life. NOT ONE CALL.

You know why? Because Caylee is dead and has been since June. That's why.

Agree 100%!!

Also, lets just imagine for a moment that Casey did give Caylee to a trusted friend, to hide away from Cindy. This friend would also have 'friends'. Amazing how none of them have come forward to claim the reward or even do the right thing and put the grandparents out of their misery. This 'friend' has nothing to fear from LE if Casey gave the child to them to mind, so why haven't they spoken up? Oh and not to mention the fact that there is NO WAY Casey would be keeping quiet if she had given Caylee to a friend. She has much more to lose by keeping quiet, should the above have any truth in it.

 

[Sustained]

First post ... there is no ZG or any other babysitter. Why would there be a baby sitter if you don't have a job or any money to pay the babysitter ? Child care expenses are deductible on a tax return, has LE looked at Casey's tax returns ? CA has claimed she never met ZG, yet ZG was the babysitter for 1 1/2 years ? You mean to tell me that in 1 1/2 years, Casey and Cindy were never together when Caylee was dropped off or picked up. BS ! I have a 4-year-old and my mother knows every babysitter that we have ever had.

IMO, Caylee is not with us. It is very obvious to me that KC was jealous of the attention that CA/GA paid to Caylee. The huge fight on the eve of Father's Day and the info about the counselor is all I needed to hear. KC saw herself losing Caylee to CA/GA and decided that no one would have her.

I don't think they will ever find Caylee; KC is obviously very clever and cunning and IMO, she hid the body very well if not destroyed it completely.

KC is basking in the media attention right now; the attention she never received from CA/GA. She will eventually reap what she has sown, both in this life and the next.

My respectful opinions ...

 

[Rose Mom]

See? Everyone knows *something* about it even if they are not paying attention or following it on a daily/weekly basis. They know there's a little toddler from FL who is missing. This story has 'legs,' as they say. Just because there aren't DAILY articles in newspapers doesn't mean that people haven't heard of this case and have zero knowledge of it.

Not here, I am telling you not ONE person I have mentioned it to knows anything about it ! They say "who's that?"
Ok here's what I just did, I just put my 3 year old on his bus(special school he's autistic) and asked the driver and matron if they heard of the "little girl in Florida ,Caylee who is missing?"

Both said "No...missing where? "

So no matter what anyones thoughts are on this case it is NOT well known

 

[seekingjustice**]

See? Everyone knows *something* about it even if they are not paying attention or following it on a daily/weekly basis. They know there's a little toddler from FL who is missing. This story has 'legs,' as they say. Just because there aren't DAILY articles in newspapers doesn't mean that people haven't heard of this case and have zero knowledge of it.

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Not here, I am telling you not ONE person I have mentioned it to knows anything about it ! They say "who's that?"
Ok here's what I just did, I just put my 3 year old on his bus(special school he's autistic) and asked the driver and matron if they heard of the "little girl in Florida ,Caylee who is missing?"

Both said "No...missing where? "

So no matter what anyones thoughts are on this case it is NOT highly publicized

I'm in Australia and I have heard of it