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I can't find the old aerial shots of the recovery scene, but based on the above pic, it seems the immediate area was heavily wooded. I am wondering how far from the rock pile (or wherever the car was parked) that one would be able to see the silo that TLM remembered. In the map she drew (at the blog link that Dilbert provided above), it has TLM's hand drawn map and the silo is apparently a couple of fields away.
Depending on where the silo is visible from, this could certainly be an indication/verification that it was in fact TLM who walked away from the car, and whatever that distance could have been.
They didn't search the garbage bins because they never found the correct car wash.
There were dump searches in Salford, but that was before TLM confessed.
Well, I'm disheartened that the bits of the car seat were never recovered. JMO
I've gone back and read the tweets about the shoes, she says Rafferty told her they had to get rid of their shoes. He had extra pairs for both of them She tossed hers out and it seems like he tossed his own out, so perhaps they were on the other side of the road and that's why Lillian didn't see them.
That makes sense. But wasn't she in the back seat cutting it up? Or was that after the car wash? :waitasec: the shoes were found on the east side of the highway or near the highway 6. Do we have a link to a map of this yet? JMO
Well, I'm disheartened that the bits of the car seat were never recovered. JMO
http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news...ori-staffords-death-testifies/article2384078/After she threw them into the bush, as she and Mr. Rafferty drove south, Tori’s clothes and the hammer - never located by police – were placed in a garbage bag and dropped in a dumpster at a carwash in Cambridge, Ms. McClintic said earlier during her testimony.
There, the couple washed down Mr. Rafferty’s Honda Civic and shampooed the inside, including the floor mats, Ms. McClintic said.
In a public washroom they then changed into different clothes that Mr. Rafferty had brought along, tossing their old garments out of the window as they drove along Highway 401, together with chunks of
upholstery from the back seat, Ms. McClintic said. The chunks of upholstery have never been found.
So the chunks of upholstery were thrown out along the 401 and were never found. sigh. One thing though, if TLM was in the front passenger seat when they left the crime scene, and they were driving south, she would have been on the west side of highway 6. The shoes were found on the east side of the road. Either TLM was in the back at the time when she through out her shoes (through the rear driver side window) or they were driving north. JMO
This has always bugged me that she was able to remember alot of other details but not the carwash. How many carwashes could their be in the area they travelled?
I would like to know why they were in Cambridge?? yes it is close to Guelph but still quite a drive from mount Forest and woodstock. Is it possible that TLM was confused?? JMO
She probably had too much on her mind on the way back to be paying close attention. What bugs me is that police investigators were unable to find a car wash in the area that looked vaguely familiar to her. Then again Cambridge is a huge regional area, sort of like Mississauga, not a city, per se.This has always bugged me that she was able to remember alot of other details but not the carwash. How many carwashes could their be in the area they travelled?
I agree...very strange!!!
http://www.thestar.com/news/crime/a...ial-woman-says-she-found-discarded-shoes?bn=1Metcalfe also said there was a cars back seat in the same area of the side road for a while. She mentioned it to police since she had heard they were searching for Raffertys back seat, but by May 30 it was no longer there. She then told the officer about the shoes and he asked her to describe them, Metcalfe said.
She probably had too much on her mind on the way back to be paying close attention. What bugs me is that police investigators were unable to find a car wash in the area that looked vaguely familiar to her. Then again Cambridge is a huge regional area, sort of like Mississauga, not a city, per se.
Scoyne said shoes were sent to Centre for Forensic Science to test for DNA
On May 31st 2009, shoes were turned over to Scoyne. Centre of Forensic Sciences did testing on them. Looking for DNA evidence
Scoyne says shoes were sent to the Centre of Forensic Sciences to test for DNA. Crown says we will hear from scientist later
We'll hear from forensic experts about the shoes later on, Carnegie says.
Scoyne shown left SHAQ shoe in plastic bag