Two month old killed by family lab

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I personally would not allow that cute little pit bull in a party hat anywhere near myself or my family.

As this thread is about the death of a baby by a lab puppy and not about pit bulls, I will cease to participate in the hijacking of this thread, and will instead move it over to the "Crimes in the News" forum, where the most recent of many pit bull attack threads is located.

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=2428917&posted=1#post2428917
 
Heartbreaking story. Like many of you, I would like more info.

Depending on the placement of the swing, I think a puppy could get into it. (ie swing next to table next to couch next to low ottoman) - the dog could make it's way into the swing and get the child my the neck/head. In such a case, death may be fairly quick (a 6-week old!) with little or no crying. So - on the surface - I'm not yet ready to assume they killed the child and fed it to the dog.

That said - 17 year old mother with little baby always makes me a bit sad and wary. I couldn't take care of myself, a dog or a baby at that age, but that's another story.

Also - as others have pointed out - a child that young in a swing needs to be monitored. I mean, I think it's okay to pop out of the room for a minute or two to go to the bathroom or get a drink of water, but (dog or no dog) kids (especially the teeny weenies) should be monitored consistantly when they are in little machines. Also - dogs and babies alone - never a good idea. Ever.

But I wouldn't expect the "average" 17-year-old girl to know this.
 
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Here's a link to the story on Vick's dogs...it even has a picture of one of those killer pit bulls in a party hat.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/story/2008/07/06/ST2008070602429.html[/quote]


Thank you for sharing this link; what wonderful slideshows. I do believe that ANY dog has to potential to attack depending on a variety of factors. In this particular case, it is just sad that two kids had a baby and several animals and probably didn't know how to take care of them all. I truly can't imagine how they couldn't hear the baby screaming, though. I do believe there is more to this story than we've heard and will be interested in hearing the autopsy report.
 
That puppy isn't six weeks old, he/she is closer to 12 weeks of age. He/she also looks to be a mixed breed, but that doesn't matter. Any dog (of any breed) can bite...good or bad intentions. I think the swing induced prey drive (which they're known to do) and the puppy played too roughly. It wouldn't take much to harm an eight week old baby. I just wonder, didn't anyone hear the baby crying?

ETA: If he/she was weaned too early (seems to be so), that's another thing that didn't help the situation. Puppies learn 'social skills' (including bite inhibition) by being w/their mother and littermates.
 
Medea said:
If that had been a pit bull puppy instead of a lab everyone would be screaming that the entire breed be exterminated.

I guess this tragedy shows that ALL large breed dogs pose a risk when they are owned by irresponsible people who don't safeguard their own children.
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I'm guessing it wasn't a pure Lab, more like a Pit Bull/Lab mix, that I can believe would be vicious!:mad:
 
ember said:
I am mad as he!! that they put that puppy down! The puppy was probably just playing and didn't understand that it was hurting the baby. The parents should have been watching this child. Puppy bites can be rough...but I don't think it meant that it would have grown up to be an aggressive dog. The wrong creature was held responsible in this instance.:furious:

I feel very very bad for that poor baby and wish this would not have happened BUT this puppy was put to death while the 3 adults in the house, who should have been responsible for this child, are still out there and able to procreate again. :furious:
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sandraladeda said:
Why this story is fishy to me -
1. I have owned baby swings, and they are too tall for a puppy to reach (what? Did the puppy jump up and gnaw the legs off the baby?)

2. I have owned golden retrievers, size-wise, virtually the same as labs. A 6 week old would not be able to inflict this kind of harm, especially to a baby in a swing.

3. I have had babies. Unless the baby was abandoned for a very long time by the parents/gramma, the first "bite" (had the dog somehow leapt high enough to bite) would have caused the baby to howl so loudly, anyone in the vicinity would have heard. It would have taken a heck of a lot for alone time for the dog to be able to bite the child to death.

IMO, the investigation will reveal another cause of death, and the dog got blamed.
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southcitymom said:
Heartbreaking story. Like many of you, I would like more info.

Depending on the placement of the swing, I think a puppy could get into it. (ie swing next to table next to couch next to low ottoman) - the dog could make it's way into the swing and get the child my the neck/head. In such a case, death may be fairly quick (a 6-week old!) with little or no crying. So - on the surface - I'm not yet ready to assume they killed the child and fed it to the dog.

That said - 17 year old mother with little baby always makes me a bit sad and wary. I couldn't take care of myself, a dog or a baby at that age, but that's another story.

Also - as others have pointed out - a child that young in a swing needs to be monitored. I mean, I think it's okay to pop out of the room for a minute or two to go to the bathroom or get a drink of water, but (dog or no dog) kids (especially the teeny weenies) should be monitored consistantly when they are in little machines. Also - dogs and babies alone - never a good idea. Ever.

But I wouldn't expect the "average" 17-year-old girl to know this.
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I agree with all of the above!
 
The puppy was older than 6 wks...


"The medical examiner's report is pending, but police say the evidence clearly shows that the black lab puppy killed the baby.* The dog was euthanized and examined at the Tulsa Animal Shelter, and found to be between two and three months old"...

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=8753165

Here's a youtube video of a three month old lab

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAmzKF-N6Ik

It sounds like the baby died from multiple dog bites. I suppose that, sadly, if a bite punctured an artery, he probably bled to death. This is beyond sad.
 
heavenlydaze said:
The puppy was older than 6 wks...


"The medical examiner's report is pending, but police say the evidence clearly shows that the black lab puppy killed the baby.* The dog was euthanized and examined at the Tulsa Animal Shelter, and found to be between two and three months old"...

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=8753165

Here's a youtube video of a three month old lab

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAmzKF-N6Ik

It sounds like the baby died from multiple dog bites. I suppose that, sadly, if a bite punctured an artery, he probably bled to death. This is beyond sad.
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I got my PureBred Black Lab rescue puppy at 3 mo. old, and she has NEVER bitten out of aggression, only play biting, and she knows to kiss babies, not bite them!
 
Cute aside... I was just watching the YouTube video of the 3mo. old Lab Puppy and my Lab walks in the room and starts watching my monitor!
 
i don't buy it ...

and even if it is true, they should be charged with neglect. imagine how far away they had to have been from the baby not to hear the attack !?!?
 
Not to mention hearing the baby screaming.
 
There are new details about the baby killed by a dog on Monday. Tulsa Police say the two-month-old baby boy was named Zane Alen Earles. The News On 6's Emory Bryan reports police say he was unattended for possibly as long as an hour and a half before his body was discovered.

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Tulsa Police now say the baby's father, 18-year-old Tyler Craig, was not home when the baby died sometime between 8:30 and 10 a.m. Monday morning. The baby boy was in an elevated wind up child's swing, inside the house, when he was killed.

"The baby's father left the residence about 8 a.m. and the baby was fine. The baby's grandfather left the home about 8:30 in the morning and he had put the baby in the swing set," said Tulsa Police Officer Leland Ashley.

His mother is 17-year-old Linzy Earles, who was in the home with the baby's grandmother. They told detectives they were on the opposite side of the house from the baby when the dog killed the child.

http://www.newson6.com/Global/story.asp?S=8753165 (Bolded by me)
 
So who was responsible for the baby????? Who leaves a 2-mo old alone in a swing unattended for 11/2 hours?????:confused:
 
This is my lab when she was 6 weeks old...she was so itty bitty and I know a baby crying from pain sounds different than a baby crying from hunger.

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She couldn't evenget her mouth around this let alone do any damage--she couldn't even tear the taller grass around her at that time.

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Here is my lab at 12 months old--I kust cannot imagine a full blooded lab ever doing something as they have said:

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LinetteH said:
This is my lab when she was 6 weeks old...she was so itty bitty and I know a baby crying from pain sounds different than a baby crying from hunger.

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She couldn't evenget her mouth around this let alone do any damage--she couldn't even tear the taller grass around her at that time.

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I can't figure out what she is doing in the second photo:waitasec:
 
Mine has walked up to babies in the car seat carriers on the floor and kissed them on their faces- in front of us!
 
I think, to prevent accidents, people need to better understand dogs and their behavior. They're not 'furry people', and don't think, feel and act like we do. It's upsetting how many miss the signs, and there are warning signs before a bite. Although, in this case, I feel it was rough play and not intended. Dogs have always been in my life (be it as a hobby and/or profession)....they're my love and life. I'm no expert, but I've learned a lot durning that time.

Here are some decent sites:

Highly recommend reading:
http://www.doggonesafe.com/dog communication.htm

Other bites/attacks:
http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Articles/OtherBreedBites/AllDogsBite.htm

Aggression info:
http://www.inch.com/~dogs/aggression.html
http://www.canismajor.com/dog/aggres1.html
http://www.k9aggression.com/Aggression/aggression_types.html#animals
http://www.inch.com/~dogs/aggression.html
 
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