UID VICTIM: NY - Lattingtown, AsianFem 20-50, UP10952, golden pig pendant, Jan'13

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Interesting that LE focused on a possible Korean connection. I have lived/worked much of my adult life in NE and SE Asia. I am born in the year of the pig (1971) and those types of pendants have been common everywhere I've lived - and Korea is one of the places I've not been :) I wonder if LE would ever consider sending one of these true "dead end" cases to DNA Doe?
 
There was a lot of shady stuff going on in NY on 40th in Flushing - that is where some cops even were customers of primarily Chinese escorts.

I’ve often wondered why she is only associated with being Korean and bulletins were only released in the Korean communities when the Chinese Zodiac is more associated with China and thusly Chinese communities should also be considered...

Here’s a story highlighting a tragic death of a Chinese escort living in an overpriced rental space in lieu of more “protection” from prosecution for prostitution. In the end she just became a part of the foreign sex trafficking trade.

I often wonder IF Lattingtown JD were a LISK victim, was her profession possibly similar to Song and could she have felt pressured from law enforcement because of a bad seed on the force?

The Case of Jane Doe Ponytail :: WRAL.com
 
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Yes @DaisyChains absolutely re: the Korean connection versus the wider Asian community. I can't help but think maybe there is some evidence the police are holding back, that makes them draw that conclusion.
 
Yes I am wondering this as well. There must be something we don’t know to definitely indicate she was from the Korean community and not the others.

A Chinese woman could have a pig necklace made in Korea - so ppl trying to base so much off of the necklace, besides a clue to the Jane Doe’s year of birth, seems far too myopic.
 
1. This case was recently added to The Doe Network in April 2020 and updated by law enforcement a few times since: 1539UFNY
2. And this charm (link below) looks very similar to me, but more importantly, the description:
"24K SOLID GOLD (REAL GOLD, not gold-filled, not gold-plated)
Dol (돌) is a Korean tradition that celebrates the first birthday of a baby.
This ceremony blesses the child with a prosperous future and is of great significance in Korea.
Customarily, these items are kept safely until the child reaches adulthood.
These can be melted into a necklace or another piece of jewelry when the child is older."
24K Gold Korean 1st Birthday (돌) Pig Charm (한돈)
 
Shedding some light on this old post:
PictureSnatcher said:
I found an interesting victim I think could be related to Lattingtown Jane Doe. By the way I thjink this topic should be in the LISK forum in order to receive the proper attention. Latt Jane was buried which none of the LISK victims were and so was Muttown Jane Doe found very close by. If you look at Muttontown Rd where this Jane Doe was found buried off of in the preserve, 7 miles straight up Oyster Bay Rd turns right into Sheep Lane where Lattingtown Jane was found. Similar MO, very close in location, both buried, both unidentified and could be a similar time frame. Are we dealing with another LI serial killer who buries victims around this area of the north shore, or early victims of the LISK before he started dismembering? Could be early 90's victims.

http://nypost.com/2001/11/14/horrified-hikers-discover-skull/
By Kieran Crowely

November 14, 2001 | 5:00am

Hikers at a Long Island nature preserve made a grisly discovery – a human skull protruding from the ground.
The horrified hikers alerted police, who later unearthed the skull and an entire skeleton Sunday at the Muttontown Preserve in Muttontown.
Nassau County homicide detectives moved the remains to the Nassau County medical examiner’s office in East Meadow for an autopsy in a bid to discover the age and gender of the remains.


http://billyjensen.com/wp-content/themes/billjensen/pdfs/crime_stories/gold_coast_mystery.pdf
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Muttontown Jane Doe just got her own WS thread:

NY - - Muttontown, Long Island UNKFem UP73423, 25-50, discovered in Nature Preserve, 10 November 2001

The possible connection is intriguing, though.


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As for our Gold Pig Pendant Lady, I noticed some information on her NamUs that hasn't been mentioned here:
Circumstances of Recovery:
Skeletal remains in a garbage bag partially buried in the sand. The bags are weathered and have tree roots and vegetation growing into the bags. Location is a secluded beach/sandy area off of Sheep Ln in Lattington along the Long Island Sound.
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Forgive me if this is a well-known fact in her case, but I haven't seen this before now. Her NamUs was last updated January 17th 2020.
 
Hi Sleuthser.

I hope you will help me with a few extra eyes on this case.

I stumbled upon this Jane doe. from 2013 NY.

1539UFNY

And the distinctive pig necklace. Which in many ways is identical to the on Kristina Nguyen from Ohio has on, in her age reconstruction image. I know if you look at the date of her disappearance she was only about 4 years old. Jane doe was about 20 years old and up was there thought. But could something have happened later?

20 years, is however stated as an estimate, based on the perception that Jane doe may have been born in one of the Chinese pig years 1971 or 1985. But kristina she was born in 1997 an still have a pig necklace. I have read that the pig can be a sign of motherhood, happiness, wealth and other things. And would make sense as in connection with childbirth.?

It is believed that Jane may have been lying on the site as early as 2012. kristina would have been 15, in 2012.

I dont know enough of this type of necklaces, and Asian tradition, to know if this could be an all man's possession during that period? But I think it seems weird that a girl has disappeared years ago with a similar necklace which is now also found on a Jane doe that no one has clamed? I can see from the age-old reconstruction of kristina that the pig is black. But i see in the picture of kristina as a child she is obviously wearing a necklace. Which appears to be gold and not black. Could an artist have drawn it black, because he or she did not have knowledge of it, from Christina's family?

Does anyone have more knowledge about these cases?

Anyone know if the 2 cases have been compared before?

What are your thoughts on this?
 

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Merete said:
Hi Sleuthser.

I hope you will help me with a few extra eyes on this case.

I stumbled upon this Jane doe. from 2013 NY.

1539UFNY

And the distinctive pig necklace. Which in many ways is identical to the on Kristina Nguyen from Ohio has on, in her age reconstruction image. I know if you look at the date of her disappearance she was only about 4 years old. Jane doe was about 20 years old and up was there thought. But could something have happened later?

20 years, is however stated as an estimate, based on the perception that Jane doe may have been born in one of the Chinese pig years 1971 or 1985. But kristina she was born in 1997 an still have a pig necklace. I have read that the pig can be a sign of motherhood, happiness, wealth and other things. And would make sense as in connection with childbirth.?

It is believed that Jane may have been lying on the site as early as 2012. kristina would have been 15, in 2012.

I dont know enough of this type of necklaces, and Asian tradition, to know if this could be an all man's possession during that period? But I think it seems weird that a girl has disappeared years ago with a similar necklace which is now also found on a Jane doe that no one has clamed? I can see from the age-old reconstruction of kristina that the pig is black. But i see in the picture of kristina as a child she is obviously wearing a necklace. Which appears to be gold and not black. Could an artist have drawn it black, because he or she did not have knowledge of it, from Christina's family?

Does anyone have more knowledge about these cases?

Anyone know if the 2 cases have been compared before?

What are your thoughts on this?
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There is a thread for the Doe here. I’m not sure if they mentioned Kristina Nguyen though. I also edited to add Kristina’s thread.

NY - NY - Lattingtown, AsianFem UP10952, 20-50, golden pig pendant, Jan'13

OH - OH - Van Nguyen, 26 & 2 children, Kristina, 4 & John, 3, Cincinnati, 18 April 2002
 
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thanks for your help. Very interesting. It does not immediately appear that Kristina has been mentioned in this case.

I will take a closer look at that ...:)
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Suglo said:
There is a thread for the Doe here. I’m not sure if they mentioned Kristina Nguyen though. I also edited to add Kristina’s thread.

NY - NY - Lattingtown, AsianFem UP10952, 20-50, golden pig pendant, Jan'13

OH - OH - Van Nguyen, 26 & 2 children, Kristina, 4 & John, 3, Cincinnati, 18 April 2002
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Suglo said:
There is a thread for the Doe here. I’m not sure if they mentioned Kristina Nguyen though. I also edited to add Kristina’s thread.

NY - NY - Lattingtown, AsianFem UP10952, 20-50, golden pig pendant, Jan'13

OH - OH - Van Nguyen, 26 & 2 children, Kristina, 4 & John, 3, Cincinnati, 18 April 2002
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Does anyone know if Hyungjun Park/NamUs #MP3336 has ever been looked at/ruled out for this case?

"PARK WAS LAST HEARD FR0M IN NEW YORK CITY ON HER CELL PHONE. SHE WAS PLANNING ON GOING TO THE KOREAN CONSULATE."
 
skidkid said:
Does anyone know if Hyungjun Park/NamUs #MP3336 has ever been looked at/ruled out for this case?

"PARK WAS LAST HEARD FR0M IN NEW YORK CITY ON HER CELL PHONE. SHE WAS PLANNING ON GOING TO THE KOREAN CONSULATE."
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Nothing in the MP case to show what she was wearing, but she does fit the estimated age. Nothing to indicate she was a sex worker either - the UID case in Doe Network indicates this female ismay be victim of the Long Island Serial Killer. Hyungjun went missing during the right time period to be one of his victims. Namus doesn't speculate on PMI but the UID was skeletal, so was not recently deceased.
 
I was reading about the 1982 murders connected with Candor Diamonds - known as the "CBS Murders" as three CBS employees were killed as innocent bystanders - and wondered if Lattingtown Jane Doe is victim Jenny Soo Chin. Chin was 46 years old when she disappeared on January 5, 1982. There is no indication she had a pig pendant, but she was born in 1935 which was Year of the Pig on the Chinese zodiac. Chin's car was later found with her bloodstains, and a man was later imprisoned for her murder, but as far as I have read her remains were never found. I can't find any indication that her killer ever disclosed where her body is located. Oddly, Chin is not listed as a missing person in any databases that I have found. But the relative proximity to Queens (where Chin was last seen), the suspected age of the victim, and the fact that the remains had been in the Lattingtown location for some time means to me that Chin is a strong possibility.
 
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This Doe's Namus record was updated this week - no change that is publicly visible and still no ruleouts listed.
 
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