It happens to everyone especially when the site is busy, imo, not embarrassing, if i have too many dbms and space taken up on an active thread, my personal tendency is to try and find another pic, article or re post something just to 'fill' the space.
UK UK- Eve Stratford, 21, Bunny @ Playboy Club, posed for mag. cover, later her mutilated & grotesquely staged body found @ home, London 18/03/75 *DNA*
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Don't be embarrassed, it happens to everyone now and then, and you're providing such a wealth of information to these threads. Take a breath, in and out, and smile. It's just the site gremlins. No biggie.
Sorry I didn't see this earlier, I was a bit busy. Good idea, I will try to remember that in future, hopefully it won't happen too often though.
I'm reproducing this here as some people may be following this discussion of possible linked murders and not be looking at the individual threads of the ladies mentioned. I have posted a few pieces on the Sally Shepherd thread yesterday, ongoing, this one was of particular interest as in all the articles saying Sally visited friends in Essex before making the journey home, I was imagining far away, when it was close enough for it to be negligible to mention it was Essex not London (I think it's classed as Redbridge now and North East London, no longer Essex). It was Woodford, which is where Lynda Farrow was murdered and Woodford underground station where Sally caught the train home is only a few stops from Leytonstone Station (same line) where Eve Stratford exited on her short walk home, murdered not long after getting home.
Lynda Farrow, despite the proximity and similarities to Eve, should really be ruled out as recovered DNA from stored evidence would have matched up to anyone on file otherwise, it's just such a huge coincidence.
Sally's attack is very similar to Lynne Weedon's.
Like with many of these cases police alternate between some of the same theories as us, with Sally they have said they think someone followed her from the bus, also that they think someone or some people in passing car followed her (they go between a very strong individual or more than one person, because of the physicality of her attack). So this unknown part puts the police in the same position as us. This is why they try to find as many witnesses as possible to fill in the timeline and know what people were seen around her. The police were very disappointed with the lack of response.
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Dec 03, 1979, page 3 - The Daily Telegraph at Newspapers.com - Newspapers.com
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Wow, I have read so often that Sally left work at The New Vic, central London and went to visit friends in Essex, and for the first time I read hear that it was Woodford, and Woodford is where Lynda Farrow was murdered, it's a stone's throw from where Eve Stratford was murdered (who was murdered by the same person as Lynne Weedon, attacked and killed in a similar manner to Sally), Eve had caught the central line home from central London to Leytonstone Station which is only two stops from Woodford on the central line, which is the station Sally was escorted to by friends to catch a tube home. Sally exited on Tottenham Court Road to catch a bus to Peckham.
Also Sally was 5ft 6" according to this, the same height as Eve Stratford. (As well as also being blonde and attractive like the others we've linked).
In this it says police believe it may have been two men. In various press releases at the time I have searched, they usually write that police believe it is either someone very strong, or two men. In Lynne Weedon's case the police believed it was someone very strong. This is for the way the body of each young lady was moved around while unconscious and therefore a dead weight, plus in Sally's case the energetic furosity of the physical attack after rape.
I'm not sure if I am missing something here, but I don't know why there is no DNA as Sally was raped, even though all they did then was check bodily fluids for blood group, often exhibits were kept and could be retested as new techniques became available, so I don't understand where the DNA is.
I don't recall any witness reports of anyone following Sally from Woodford or onto or off the bus. The bus conductress mentioned people or a car she noticed in the area when Sally got off the bus, but not of anyone following Sally, it is an incredible coincidence.
Sally's clothes were left in the same arrangement as Lynne Weedon's, pants and jeans removed and upper clothing pulled up under the chin, exposing her breasts.
Sally Shepherd, more details - Defrosting Cold Cases
Some readers contacted me about the Sally Shepherd case providing more details. Nobody was ever arrested in this case and it remains unsolved.
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Thank you, maybe link can be posted in Sally's thread?Sally Shepherd, more details - Defrosting Cold Cases
Some readers contacted me about the Sally Shepherd case providing more details. Nobody was ever arrested in this case and it remains unsolved.
Ws thread..
UK - UK- Sally Shepherd, 24, Worked @ Young Vic Theatre, Dragged through wire fence, Raped & beaten by ‘Beast of Peckham’, 1 Dec.'79 *Rootless Hair*
https://www.mylondon.news/news/south-london-news/south-london-woman-raped-murdered-24722055 By Holly Evans 14 AUG 2022 rbbm. Lengthy article. ''One such case was that of Sally Shepherd, a young woman who was stripped, raped and brutally beaten to death with a blunt instrument in south London...
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Considering the recent movements wrt to several UK and Irish cold cases, hoping there will be some new revelations in Eve's murder and that of the connected by DNA, murder of L.W.
www.walesonline.co.uk
By Lucy John 2 APR 2023 rbbm.
''The final case Mick worked on as part of the murder squad was the cold case of Eve Stratford and Lynne Weedon who were both murdered in 1975 in different ends of London. Eve was a bunny girl at the Playboy Club in Mayfair while Lynne was a 16-year-old schoolgirl. “Both were linked with familial DNA in about 2007. I became the family liaison officer for both families until I retired,” Mick said. Following Mick’s retirement his son Cerith – who is now a detective sergeant in the Met – was tasked with investigating the same case “by sheer coincidence”.
Although Mick said he was driven in his career by a desire to bring justice to families and individuals whose lives had been ripped apart by the most unimaginable grief he said it didn’t come without sacrifice in his own personal life. The father-of-two and granddad-of-four said: “I was married twice – the pressure of the job certainly did affect my personal life. I was hardly home because I had to work really long hours.”
The Welsh policeman who has faced down some of the most evil killers in Britain
Throughout his career Mick Jones, from Brynamman, was involved in more than 100 murder cases. He has sat face-to-face with some of Britain's most notorious criminals and even reduced one of them to tears
''The final case Mick worked on as part of the murder squad was the cold case of Eve Stratford and Lynne Weedon who were both murdered in 1975 in different ends of London. Eve was a bunny girl at the Playboy Club in Mayfair while Lynne was a 16-year-old schoolgirl. “Both were linked with familial DNA in about 2007. I became the family liaison officer for both families until I retired,” Mick said. Following Mick’s retirement his son Cerith – who is now a detective sergeant in the Met – was tasked with investigating the same case “by sheer coincidence”.
Although Mick said he was driven in his career by a desire to bring justice to families and individuals whose lives had been ripped apart by the most unimaginable grief he said it didn’t come without sacrifice in his own personal life. The father-of-two and granddad-of-four said: “I was married twice – the pressure of the job certainly did affect my personal life. I was hardly home because I had to work really long hours.”
Lengthy article, rbbm.
May 30 2023
www.thesun.co.uk
''POSING for the cover of adult mag Mayfair, Playboy Bunny Eve Stratford hoped to launch her glamorous career as a model.
Instead, the ambitious 21-year-old — who was found butchered in her East London flat several weeks later in March 1975 — may have attracted the attention of her killer.''
''The brutal murder sent shockwaves through the London nightlife scene and, almost half a century later, it remains unsolved.
What is known is that her murderer went on to kill again, at least once.
The killer’s DNA has been linked to the rape and murder of 16-year-old schoolgirl Lynne Weedon, in Hounslow, West London, six months later.''
''And it is thought the same man also killed pregnant mum Lynda Farrow, 29, four years later in January 1979.
The unsolved crimes will be the subject of a new ITV documentary, The Playboy Murders, announced this week.
DCI Colin Sutton, who investigated the killings as cold cases in 2002, has also made his own documentary, West End Girls, to be broadcast later this year.
And he revealed to The Sun that he has made a huge breakthrough in the case.''
He said: “We actually found a new witness, after nearly 50 years, who was walking past when Lynne Weedon was murdered.
“She didn’t come forward at the time because her parents told her not to.
"But by speaking to her, as well as re-examining the evidence, we were able to make connections to a potential suspect.”
He said: “After our investigation we have a new suspect and we think the person that needs eliminating, shall we say, from the investigation is not known to police or to the authorities.”
May 30 2023
Butchered Playboy star 'was work of a serial killer', says cold case expert
WHEN the butchered body of Playboy Bunny Eve Stratford was discovered by police, one officer claimed he had never seen anything so horrific. The 21-year-old was found with her hands tied behind her…
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Instead, the ambitious 21-year-old — who was found butchered in her East London flat several weeks later in March 1975 — may have attracted the attention of her killer.''
''The brutal murder sent shockwaves through the London nightlife scene and, almost half a century later, it remains unsolved.
What is known is that her murderer went on to kill again, at least once.
The killer’s DNA has been linked to the rape and murder of 16-year-old schoolgirl Lynne Weedon, in Hounslow, West London, six months later.''
''And it is thought the same man also killed pregnant mum Lynda Farrow, 29, four years later in January 1979.
The unsolved crimes will be the subject of a new ITV documentary, The Playboy Murders, announced this week.
DCI Colin Sutton, who investigated the killings as cold cases in 2002, has also made his own documentary, West End Girls, to be broadcast later this year.
And he revealed to The Sun that he has made a huge breakthrough in the case.''
He said: “We actually found a new witness, after nearly 50 years, who was walking past when Lynne Weedon was murdered.
“She didn’t come forward at the time because her parents told her not to.
"But by speaking to her, as well as re-examining the evidence, we were able to make connections to a potential suspect.”
He said: “After our investigation we have a new suspect and we think the person that needs eliminating, shall we say, from the investigation is not known to police or to the authorities.”
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Lengthy article, rbbm.
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May 30 2023
''POSING for the cover of adult mag Mayfair, Playboy Bunny Eve Stratford hoped to launch her glamorous career as a model.Butchered Playboy star 'was work of a serial killer', says cold case expert
WHEN the butchered body of Playboy Bunny Eve Stratford was discovered by police, one officer claimed he had never seen anything so horrific. The 21-year-old was found with her hands tied behind her…
Instead, the ambitious 21-year-old — who was found butchered in her East London flat several weeks later in March 1975 — may have attracted the attention of her killer.''
''The brutal murder sent shockwaves through the London nightlife scene and, almost half a century later, it remains unsolved.
What is known is that her murderer went on to kill again, at least once.
The killer’s DNA has been linked to the rape and murder of 16-year-old schoolgirl Lynne Weedon, in Hounslow, West London, six months later.''
''And it is thought the same man also killed pregnant mum Lynda Farrow, 29, four years later in January 1979.
The unsolved crimes will be the subject of a new ITV documentary, The Playboy Murders, announced this week.
DCI Colin Sutton, who investigated the killings as cold cases in 2002, has also made his own documentary, West End Girls, to be broadcast later this year.
And he revealed to The Sun that he has made a huge breakthrough in the case.''
He said: “We actually found a new witness, after nearly 50 years, who was walking past when Lynne Weedon was murdered.
“She didn’t come forward at the time because her parents told her not to.
"But by speaking to her, as well as re-examining the evidence, we were able to make connections to a potential suspect.”
He said: “After our investigation we have a new suspect and we think the person that needs eliminating, shall we say, from the investigation is not known to police or to the authorities.”
What really surprises is the short amount of time elapsed between Eve entering the apartment and her live-in BF coming to the apartment 30 minutes later when everything was finished.
I assume that the killer stalked Eve and probably knew she was not living with her cat. Or else, having come to the apartment, one can immediately see the evidence of another man living there.
So I wonder if the killer knew about her BF's plans? He didn't just kill her, he spent the time there.
Or else, the first thing that comes to mind is whether the apartment had a back door, which could serve as means towards escape should the assailant hear the front door opening?
About case 3, Lynda Farrow, what is interesting is that she was a croupier, and Eve worked a waitress in a club. One wonders if the killer was a patron to both places? I wonder where Lynda worked? He must have known some details about two women's lives, more than a magazine newspaper would tell him.
In case 2, younger and not made up, but Lynne was of the same type than the other two victims. Very similar.
I hope they will apprehend the killer.
The SIO for the Steeltown Murders focussed on eyewitness statements during his first meeting with officers by saying "eyewitnesses, eyewitnesses, eyewitnesses". A witness saw the killer with the victims but he wasn't named until 2002.
BBC One - Steeltown Murders
True crime in two distinct time periods, exploring a community’s grief and a buried truth.
Marcel Theroux ITVX Doc On Playboy Bunny Murders; Vinnie Jones Discovery+ Reno Series; BBC Comedy Bursaries — Global Briefs
Marcel Theroux To Investigate Playboy Bunny Murders Louis Theroux’s brother Marcel Theroux is to investigate the playboy bunny murders for ITVX. In The Playboy Bunny Murders, the novelist wil…
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''Louis Theroux’s brother Marcel Theroux is to investigate the playboy bunny murders for ITVX. In The Playboy Bunny Murders, the novelist will examine the brutal murders that shocked London in the 1970s, when Eve Stratford, a Playboy Bunny who aspired to be a famous model, Lynda Farrow, a croupier with years of experience working in nighttime London, and Lynne Weedon, a schoolgirl whose whole life lay ahead of her, were all murdered. ITVX has gained exclusive access to friends, colleagues and relatives of the victims and will provide intimate insight, as Theroux attempts to track down police files, examines new breakthroughs and travels across the world in search of answers. Soho Studios and Future Studios are producing the two-parter for the ITV streaming service. Theroux said the story has “obsessed him for years.” Executive producers are Ian Lamarra for Soho Studios and John Farrar for Future Studios.''
Associated murders..
UK - UK- Lynda Farrow, 29, pregnant, Battered/throat slashed @ home, Woodford Green, London, March 1979
Kelly-Ann Mills Jan 2022 rbbm https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/manhunt-detective-thinks-playboy-bunny-25884014 ''The detective who brought down killer Levi Bellfield and was the subject of ITV drama Manhunt is convinced the Playboy Bunny killer has a third victim. Eve Stratford's horrific...
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UK - UK- Lynne Weedon, 16, Out with friends @The Elm disco, found raped/bludgeoned in ''The Short Hedges.'' alleyway, London, 3 Sept, 1975 *DNA*
https://www.newspapers.com/image/750581743/?terms=Kennington%20attack%20%20attack%20girl&match=1 This is interesting, this attack on a girl in Hillingdon Street, Kennington is being compared to Lynne's attack of the same year, police are comparing the cases it says as the mode of attack us...
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The time and the place does not fit with Eve's murder, yet there are some similarities.
Just noting because you never know with these strange and particularly brutal cases. fwiw, imo, speculation.
ETA Ws thread..
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Eva Kay Wenal.
Photo Illustration by Thomas Levinson/The Daily Beast/Pam Sleeper
'Kay was an attractive 60-year-old who could pass for half her age, and her alluring personality always seemed to make her the center of attention.''
By mid-afternoon, she was lying on the couch, curled up reading a book with her glasses on, when someone arrived at the door.
When she went to greet them, she was met with sudden, shocking violence.
The attacker apparently assaulted her several times as she staggered around the first floor of her home—slamming her head against the wall or the floor, and punching her in the face. Then, the visitor slit the ex-model’s throat—twice. A bloody coup de grace that seemed intensely personal.
“The brutality of Kay’s murder was one thing that shocked us when we started investigating her death,” Ned Timmons, a former FBI Special Agent who was hired to be Hal’s private eye in the case, told The Daily Beast. “The way Kay was killed suggested anger. It was violent. Pure violence.”
Around that time, she also became a certified dental assistant—and found quick success as a cocktail waitress at a Playboy Club in Miami.
“Everyone loved Kay there,” Pam said. When she visited her older sister during a trip to the Florida city, she got “first-class treatment” at the club.''
''Kay’s beauty and determination always made her stand apart, Pam said. Her attractiveness and work ethic were even mentioned in a December 1972 Playboy Clubs International letter, reviewed by The Daily Beast. In the note, Kay is described as an “asset to Playboy” and she’s also commended for helping out a local organization, VIVA Florida.''
Just noting because you never know with these strange and particularly brutal cases. fwiw, imo, speculation.
ETA Ws thread..
GA - GA - Eva 'Kay' Wenal, 60, Lawrenceville, 1 May 2008
Kay Wenal was 60 years old when her husband Hal found her in a pool of blood inside their kitchen She was described as a wonderful person who made others feel special ( Image: CBS News) April 8 2023 rbbm. https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/us-news/mysterious-hatred-filled-gruesome-murder-2966181...
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Eva Kay Wenal.
Photo Illustration by Thomas Levinson/The Daily Beast/Pam Sleeper
Who Killed This Millionaire Ex-Playboy Bunny?
Eva Kay Wenal was a vivacious former model whose fourth husband made a fortune as a developer in Florida. But someone wanted her dead.
www.thedailybeast.com
By mid-afternoon, she was lying on the couch, curled up reading a book with her glasses on, when someone arrived at the door.
When she went to greet them, she was met with sudden, shocking violence.
The attacker apparently assaulted her several times as she staggered around the first floor of her home—slamming her head against the wall or the floor, and punching her in the face. Then, the visitor slit the ex-model’s throat—twice. A bloody coup de grace that seemed intensely personal.
“The brutality of Kay’s murder was one thing that shocked us when we started investigating her death,” Ned Timmons, a former FBI Special Agent who was hired to be Hal’s private eye in the case, told The Daily Beast. “The way Kay was killed suggested anger. It was violent. Pure violence.”
Around that time, she also became a certified dental assistant—and found quick success as a cocktail waitress at a Playboy Club in Miami.
“Everyone loved Kay there,” Pam said. When she visited her older sister during a trip to the Florida city, she got “first-class treatment” at the club.''
''Kay’s beauty and determination always made her stand apart, Pam said. Her attractiveness and work ethic were even mentioned in a December 1972 Playboy Clubs International letter, reviewed by The Daily Beast. In the note, Kay is described as an “asset to Playboy” and she’s also commended for helping out a local organization, VIVA Florida.''
Looking for info stumbled onto this documentary, fwiw..
2020
Tragic curse of Playboy from grisly shootings and mutilations to desperate model who leapt to death with son, 7
THE world of Playboy was rocked by tragedy last week after former Playmate Ashley Mattingly apparently took her own life at home aged just 33. Yet the troubled model isn’t the first Playboy …
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