Gee, If Dina didn't know how serious Max's injuries were that Monday evening, how is it that the daughter of Dina's boyfriend (at the time) did? If one is to believe LuLu2, this teen made up a story about Max being brain dead and posted it........which I don't believe for a second. She was told/overheard conversations about Max's conditions. IMO.
This is a very important fact and one that I suspect Dina has no way of weaseling out of. Pure and unadulterated motive to murder Rebecca for revenge IMO. Darn those kids and their social media lol.
It's been a long while since we discussed the reality of what Max's injuries were, the difficult resuscitation and airway management, and half hour or so of cardiac arrest at the scene. The EMS thread has a lot of very objective information and large scale outcome studies of pediatric head trauma with cardiac arrest at the scene, if anyone wants to re-read some of the posts.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?185699-Max-Shacknai-EMS-Report
Max was a beautiful child, healthy, athletic, and energetic-- and very loved and appreciated by everyone who encountered him. It is tremendously tragic and wrenchingly sad that his young bright life ended so abruptly with the long fall and devastating head and spinal cord trauma. But no amount of wishing will change the facts of his injuries, and the prognosis of what those injuries presented in the earliest hours after heart resuscitation at Coronado, and admission to Rady's PICU. The harsh facts are that Max suffered devastating head trauma and very high spinal cord trauma from a fall of nearly 10 feet onto the upper part of his forehead and the top of his head. He had a 7 1/2 inch sagittal skull fracture-- that is simply enormous in a child of his age and size. That violent trauma caused his cardiac arrest. And that asystolic cardiac arrest went on for nearly 30 minutes. A half hour of complete cardiac arrest. The brain simply doesn't survive that unless it's a very young baby who drowns, or a hypothermic situation. Max was dead when he hit the floor and went into complete arrest. It was his heart that was resuscitated a half hour later. Read the outcome studies. These kids just don't survive this. They are considered potential organ donors from the earliest hours of admission.
Dina and Nina, in their early comments and interviews completely omitted all of the neuro and post resuscitation medical issues with head and spinal cord trauma, and tried to present a scenario of a "heart attack", as though the head trauma were simply incidental, rather than the cause of his cardiac arrest. Then they both went to extreme efforts, with Dina actually posting Max's EMS record as a public document on the internet, in an effort to implant the idea that Max would have been just fine and recovered completely "if only" Rebecca had REALLY started CPR "within 2 minutes" at the scene (remember that 2 minute CPR thing Dina and Nina were stuck on? Completely without any medical factual basis).
Never mind that the EMS record that Dina herself posted on the internet for the public, unequivocally shows exactly what was going on in the desperate minutes after EMS arrived, and the
very difficult time the EMS crew had managing Max's situation.
So difficult was the EMS crew's situation with securing Max's airway, and the ongoing aystolic cardiac arrest, that skilled and experienced EMS techs had to divert to Coronado for advanced help, instead of going directly to the level one pediatric trauma center at Rady Children's Hospital. (And privately the EMS crew most likely thought at that point CPR would be stopped in the ER, and Max would be pronounced dead at Coronado.) But we are to believe Dina that Rebecca should have been
better able to handle Max's resuscitation at the scene than EMS and Coronado hospital?? Really? Does that sound even the slightest bit logical or rational to anyone but Dina?
The medical literature is absolutely definitive about the outcomes of pediatric cardiac arrest at the scene, as a result of blunt head or chest trauma. This is fatal in 99 to 100% of all of the cases. (And some of the studies in the EMS thread have over 10,000 pediatric trauma cases, so these are very large studies.) Added to that, several of the studies are authored by docs from San Diego Children's Hospital-- so to suggest or even imply that pedes neurosurgeons and ICU intensivists were "puzzled" about Max's condition, or that they didn't know almost immediately what his injuries were, or his prognosis, is tremendously disingenuous. Or continuing denial.
Both Dina and Jonah were given lots and lots of information about Max's condition and prognosis-- of that I'm 100% sure. Whether Dina accepted that information as true is another discussion all together. Certainly a mother can be forgiven for being in shock and denial in the earliest hours and days after such a tragedy-- but persistent denial years later, indicates something else is going on mentally, emotionally, and psychologically for her, IMO.
IP, I also agree that the only way that Dina's then-BF daughter would have come to the conclusion Max was "brain dead" and going to die, is that she overheard adult conversation, or was told this directly.
