MN - Jacob Wetterling, 11, St. Joseph, 22 Oct 1989 - #8

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Looking closely at the ads now, I think this may actually be results from the 1988 race, even though it was labeled as 1989. JW may have only run the year before and not in 1989. DR has done a lot of marathons, so it wouldn't surprise me if he did the '89 race. The TC Marathon, to my knowledge, has historically been held the first week of October.
 
Really, think of how pungent the Hubers would be.

This is not a clue LE would leave out when looking for suspects.

And Tim has issues of cognition.
 
that's true Human, but we can't discount the Hubers because according to the link from ifollowthis, he threatened to shoot neighbors frequently, Del bragged that he was questioned by police about Jacob and they had a white van.
 
Okay - here is the correct results book from 1989:
https://www.tcmevents.org/_asset/m64zvy/1989.pdf

DR did finish (P21, 469), but I don't see JW. The 1988 race very well could have been a one-time thing for him.

It's still possible that JEW caught the attention of someone regularly out running on those roads with some sort of connection to DR. It sounds like JEW and friends would bike around town during daylight hours.

Also, as a chiropractor, JW may have encountered local runners in need of adjustments in the weeks leading up to and then following the marathon. I know I visit them from time to time, along with sports massage therapists. You talk about all kinds of things, especially if you have a common interest (in 1989, people training for and completing marathons weren't especially common). That's totally normal behavior for most folks, but maybe someone with bad intentions mined for information through seemingly innocent small talk.
 
that's true Human, but we can't discount the Hubers because according to the link from ifollowthis, he threatened to shoot neighbors frequently, Del bragged that he was questioned by police about Jacob and they had a white van.

Does anyone have a link to when police were actually looking for a white van? I seem to recall that white van being ruled out fairly fast. It seems to me someone said they saw a white van on the interstate with what looked like a scared boy inside, and then a similar white van was found, but it was just a father and son. It's so long ago though, I don't recall many of the details.
 
As I finally caught up in the threads yesterday I came across some comments by a professional tracker. While I’m not a tracker myself, I wondered if I could verify any of the things he was stating at a gross, amateur level. I re-examined the photos we have of prints on the driveway and concluded that we can probably verify that:

1. The tire prints in the soft section of the driveway are not consistent with a Grand Prix.
2. The tire prints in the soft section of the driveway are rare because they are narrow.
3. However, I am not convinced the make and model of auto can be discerned based on the quality of those pictures.
4. It is important to be clear that this road was a packed, mixed gravel and dirt driveway. Therefore, over time, a hard packed tire “trail” formed so that driving off that “track” would be very noticeable to a driver and not natural. A person would normally be compelled to stay on that track if driving the full ¼ mile span of the driveway, and especially if transiting it by entering and leaving.
5. The tire track laid next to JEW’s last impression occurred at roughly the same time as JEW’s impression.
6. The odds of this configuration appearing randomly are very low.
7. It is true (I was not convinced earlier) that there are not enough adult prints near JEW’s to explain their presence, since this is a soft area of soil which should have taken the adult’s prints. Any narrative must account for a perpetrator acting in “stand-off” by walking and standing on a packed gravel track. This also makes sense if the perpetrator is taking a dominant stance to the victim.
8. JEW’s last print indicates that he was lifted up to a height he could not himself reach, that he did so under his own power as well as the assistance of a person standing inside the car. This is why the professional tracker noted exhibition of traits such as “balance and control” and a fore to back tension (relative to JEW) in the last impression. This is natural when being assisted upward and toward the car. The disproportionate depth of the toe section and heel section suggests center of gravity was forward, as expected for being lifted.
9. The only explanation for the stand-off position of the perpetrator outside the car is that he was armed, or carried that pre-text, which is consistent with what the other 2 victims (witnesses) stated. This perpetrator likely used psychological means to control the victim.
10. While it is possible the car departed and the person outside the auto, known to be male, simply continued walking on a packed section of driveway, it is more likely he would have simply walked over to the car and climbed in, also leaving several clear prints.
11. The absence of a full set of clear, fresh prints near the victim’s indicates the perpetrator identified by witnesses did not enter the car, but rather continued walking on the packed section.

Assume:
1. Kevin and gf existed
2. Kevin or gf drove a Grand Prix into DR’s driveway, all the way to the top and back out

Then the Grand Prix most likely followed the packed tract, leaving tire tracks in the turnaround area at the top, but not others. The professional tracker believes the vehicle involved was a volkswagon. I do not have an opinion but think the vehicle, whatever make, continued up the driveway and:

1. Likely did not turn around due to the lack of a fresh print of additional tire tracks
2. Likely continued forward, up the driveway and not out.
3. Likely continued thence to a structure on the property driving over packed tracks and not leaving a tire print.

I am now left to explain this collusion between two adult males. It must have been at least 2 because the prints require this. It could be more, but to assume that is an unnecessary assumption for now. Finally, now that I know the fulcrum of the event at the moment of JEW’s last impression, I can begin tracking the personalities with greater confidence.

The person who witnesses saw I will designate S1 (Suspect 1). I don’t need to know his name just yet. The driver of the car I will designate S2 (Suspect 2). I do not need to know their rationale for using a car; they just did. But it isn’t all that shocking to imagine their reasoning being consistent with the preoccupation of most persons engaged in serious crime:

Flight was their primary objective, and it might have been believed by one or both S1 and S 2 that using a car would aid in flight over a length probably equal to or greater than ¼ mile.

S1 and S2’s personalities are considerably different given the behaviors now identified at the crime scene. Their Axis II presentation was likely not as severe as would be the case in a single actor narrative, or in the case of the involvement of a 21 and 22 year-old male and female. This means we should be looking for personality disorders in the mild to moderate range rather than the moderate to severe. This, and the presence of both S1 and S2, has major ramifications for how I understand JEW’s disposition.

S1 likely knew S2 for at least a few years, was likely a close friend or intimate, likely harbored an Axis II Histrionic Personality with features of Axis II Anti-Social Personality. S2 likely harbored an Axis II Narcissistic Personality with features of an Axis II Histrionic Personality. S1 was likely experienced in the terrorizing and control of persons of the victim’s age range and his movements and actions before and after this crime should be scrutinized and investigated. Rare in this case, is that S1 appears to not be socially incompetent, two males are involved, not one, and both S1 and S2 likely worked in professions that gave them access to children in the same age range as the victim. S2 was likely a confederate and S1 likely the primary actor. The pair likely parted ways after JEW’s last impression, but likely rejoined a distance not greater than 300 meters from JEW’s last impression, but probably less than 100 meters distant.

S1 was most likely intending to remove evidence of this crime from the property of S2 very soon, including JEW himself. S1 sought a live captive, also rare but supported by the personality I think I can now start tracking. This is working out to be an odd case, imo.

~ svh

Note: that this was S2's property is an unnecessary assumption, but what matters is that S1 likely intended to remove evidence from the property where the driveway was located.
 
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Also, btw, how do we explain this odd person who was apparently a "visitor" at DR's? Or was he? Anyway, this is kind of like the Kevin problem b/c I have no idea who this person is. The suspicion naturally goes to LRH but there is nothing tying him to that place and time. I'm still trying to get a pic of him, but his last skip trace was Orem, UT. Most of his long-term ties appear to be in Utah.

~ svh
 
Also, btw, how do we explain this odd person who was apparently a "visitor" at DR's? Or was he? Anyway, this is kind of like the Kevin problem b/c I have no idea who this person is. The suspicion naturally goes to LRH but there is nothing tying him to that place and time. I'm still trying to get a pic of him, but his last skip trace was Orem, UT. Most of his long-term ties appear to be in Utah.

~ svh

How about the Polka Padre?
 
How about the Polka Padre?

Hey Shay, maybe so. I'll read those comments in the threads on him again. Any particular facts/details that make you think he might be?

~ svh
 
http://globegazette.com/jacob-wette...cle_2b0e6832-84d0-11df-85ff-001cc4c03286.html

October 2003: The driver of a long-sought vehicle comes forward. Authorities rule him out as a suspect in the abduction. The theory of the case changes, leading investigators to focus on local suspects who could’ve been on foot when snatching Jacob.

Kevin came forward in 2003, not 2004.

Interesting. I've seen many conflicting dates. I believe I initially saw Feb 2004, then May 2004, now this. Not a huge window, but intriguing
 
Do you think the previous abduction attempt refers to the attempt on the boy that escaped and ran to Kay's Kitchen? I can't find anything about that incident.

No, this attempt was on a then 9 year old boy named Andrew, in the Township of St. Joseph. Andrew turned 10 years old on October 22, 1989.

The van was light tan in color, not white. After Jacob was abducted the FBI looked into Andrew's abduction attempt thoroughly. Four different people said they saw the same van and man acting suspiciously in the Township of St. Joseph in July.
 
known pedophile
home in Cold Spring
possible friends with DR through bands/music
played at the Del-Win frequently, thus knew the area
polka fest that evening at the Del-Win
51 years old at the time

How do you know he played at the Del Win regularly?

He was not on the bill for that night. I have the advertisement. The Nite Owls, Play Mor, and Johnny Helget were scheduled performers.

The Polka Padre lived in a twin cities suburb at the time.
 
I was there recently. However, it was by a mistake. The driveway looks like a regular gravel road. I don't know where the gravel pit is but it's not next to the wood piles. There are two medium sized piles and I posted my thoughts about the large/building sized pile. If a person were to remove some wood I have a hunch it would be noticed. No trespassing signs were there. However, since he probably reads this forum he may be thinking about getting one... I took a lot of heat for the wood pile description. I don't really care but it is something else. One really should see it with their own eyes. Imo he didn't need to offer LE any information where someone may bury a body on his land. He created a diversion away from the wood pile.

Don't worry about the heat, Silverngold.

My entire family and I are finding your description of the woodpile to be intriguing. This, imo, is not just somebody stocking up wood for the winter.

Add to the outsized woodpile the comment DR made about fearing his wood was being stolen the night of the abduction (in a previous post I reckoned that this was a "Tell").

And add your observation that DR seemed to create a diversion away from the woodpile by suggesting a different place on his property where a body might be buried.

To me, this woodpile is literally a huge piece of evidence that needs to be checked out, and I thank you for bringing it to our attention.
 
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