Found Deceased WA - Jenise Wright, 6, Bremerton, 2 Aug 2014 - #7 *Arrest*

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excellent. wow. the old ''cliche'' isn't cliché : perps always return to the scene?

We've seen it in many cases----how about that one case where a perp, returned to the area where LE was gathered / searching, etc, and he was standing among a crowd of bystanders and the canines ran right over to him!
 
Was this a GAME to him? Yawning kind of sounds almost like he's bored with the process. He did his ' acting gig' and wanted it to be over and for some reason I really think he thought he'd not get caught and/ or never be convicted. I'm encouraged by the LE's words ( i dont have a link ) that said ' the defense cannot be we got the wrong guy' because they are so sure it's him. Given all we have seen and heard from the various people , it does not seem likely at all that it is not him and that he did not do it. I don't know why I didn't catch the ' yawning ' part before but something about that made me think this is a game to him.. cat and mouse.

I don't think it was a game, but I can see how he treated the interrogation like a competition. In wrestling (and other sports), you put on a tough game face. You don't flinch in front of an opponent. You show no weakness. Snot running down your face? So what. Gross the other guy out with your snot. Feel intimidated? Stare straight ahead like the intimidation doesn't touch you.

But between matches, you stretch to keep limber, move around to keep on your toes, breathe to catch your breath and maybe even yawn to relax any nerves.

My take on the interrogation is he approached it like a trained competitor.

My take on the crying at the house is that he was in panic, and perhaps has a habit of manipulating his mother.
 
Look at that. That's the face of evil. That's the face of a "kid" who just brutally raped and destroyed a six year old baby, and is now driving around with his horrified mother. That's the face...nothing. No emotion.



I'm not a psychologist but, maybe. However I do, unfortunately, have a lot of experience with borderlines (my mother in law, an aunt by marriage and a few opposing parties in my cases), and it doesn't smell like it to me. In my experience, borderlines like to talk, generally. A lot. They think they can explain away anything. They feel they can b.s. you or force you to accept their viewpoint, or show you that their behavior was compelled or excusable.

They tend to be over the top and have quick bursts of anger reactions. Very dramatic. Always having a major issue or problem. This kid was known to be pretty shy and we've heard nothing about any serious, on-going behavioral issues.

Not being an expert in psych issues, I think the intense violence and horror of the crime coupled with his attempts to manipulate, fear only shown for himself (stomach heaving the car), impassioned face at the vigil and in the car (I would expect a borderline to have public displays of emotion and to make it about them - hero or devastated insider), and his ability to turn off his emotions at the police interview and yawn and stretch when they weren't in the room, as a direct and very opposite exhibition of emotion from his earlier, apparent grief or horror stricken catatonia, we are dealing with someone much more sophisticated and scary than a borderline.

But that's my guess.



Yes.

Sorry, had to quote myself. In the original, I wrote that my mother is a borderline. That was a mistake! It's my mother in law! I had to clarify that because my mom is totally normal and just an angel straight from heaven.
 
addiction (substance) + mental illness

dual dx
 
O/T
I know there is the depression thread on here but we so should make an anxiety disorder thread, it seems like a lot if us here have one, or if you're me, several lol
Yes I do have a minor anxiety disorder. Despite the work I do. LOL which causes me great angst. I used to thrive on the adrenaline rush. Now not so much. I went Part time yet I still have days. I can deal. I think it would be worse if I didn't work. I have been yappy tonight as Hubby had to get to Detroit Metro Airport and left despite all the flooding. We found a route and he just called he is there. Phew. I was headed to the wine rack then was fore score against if I had to do a rescue or extraction in the a.m. LOL
 
This might not be a popular viewpoint here, but re: him yawning, I suspect this was involuntary, that he really might have been extremely exhausted. He stated on SM, iirc, that he didn't sleep much; mix this with everything happening--it was quite a week for him. jmo (I also stated earlier that I believe that when he was staring off, snotty, crying, pacing, that I think this was the moment where it must have hit him that his life was over. My opinion is that these actions were not necessarily acting in order to lay the bricks for an insanity defense.) JMO
 
As for the question of abuse victims becoming abusers, I feel I have seen it personally. My abuser, my 16 yr old uncle, began molesting me when I was 6. Many yrs later I found out that he had been abused as an altar boy by his priest, and then later, at 14 and 15 by his baseball coach. So I think he molested me and my cousin, to convince himself that he was 'not gay.'

I was sexually abused from age 6 until about 11. It impacted me greatly, and I acted out sexually at an early age. I was 'hypersexualized' by the abuse. So I initiated sexual interactions with other young kids because it was what I had 'learned' to do. In some ways I could be seen as an abuser myself, for initiating the sex play with other young kids. They were my own age and sometimes a yr or 2 younger. :cry: That made me feel so guilty when I dealt with it in counseling.
 
It's been said GG was taking antidepressants. I m curious when that began and why and what kind of doctor prescribed them and if had been taking them properly.
 
See, I think the severity thing is yet another stigma.

I have generalized anxiety disorder and take lexapro. I see a psychiatrist to manage meds and bc she can do therapy also.

She is specialized. On a scale of 1-10 severity- I'm prob at a 1.5?
ITA! My FP prescribed anti depressents for me and unfortunately they made my depression much worse. I went to psych dr and he changed my rx to one that is working. After six months he said my FP can prescribe for me. I said no thank you...it took a year and a half to get over the last bout of major depression...I love my FP but I want a specialist. And it's true...people look at going to a psych differently. When I was just seeing the FP I was stressed...now I have "issues". People can be so clueless IMO
 
Well at the end of the day I spent a year working with Dual Diagnosis Sex Offenders who had blow up dolls in their bedrooms. Don't ask me to expand. Lordy.

I hope you receive a gold Rolex and a house in Hawaii at your retirement party.
 
As for the question of abuse victims becoming abusers, I feel I have seen it personally. My abuser, my 16 yr old uncle, began molesting me when I was 6. Many yrs later I found out that he had been abused as an altar boy by his priest, and then later, at 14 and 15 by his baseball coach. So I think he molested me and my cousin, to convince himself that he was 'not gay.'

I was sexually abused from age 6 until about 11. It impacted me greatly, and I acted out sexually at an early age. I was 'hypersexualized' by the abuse. So I initiated sexual interactions with other young kids because it was what I had 'learned' to do. In some ways I could be seen as an abuser myself, for initiating the sex play with other young kids. They were my own age and sometimes a yr or 2 younger. :cry: That made me feel so guilty when I dealt with it in counseling.


Bless your heart Katy; sorry you went through this.

Seriously, I posted upstream that it would not surprise me if GG was battling an internal struggle with "gay thoughts".
 
As for the question of abuse victims becoming abusers, I feel I have seen it personally. My abuser, my 16 yr old uncle, began molesting me when I was 6. Many yrs later I found out that he had been abused as an altar boy by his priest, and then later, at 14 and 15 by his baseball coach. So I think he molested me and my cousin, to convince himself that he was 'not gay.'

I was sexually abused from age 6 until about 11. It impacted me greatly, and I acted out sexually at an early age. I was 'hypersexualized' by the abuse. So I initiated sexual interactions with other young kids because it was what I had 'learned' to do. In some ways I could be seen as an abuser myself, for initiating the sex play with other young kids. They were my own age and sometimes a yr or 2 younger. :cry: That made me feel so guilty when I dealt with it in counseling.

But dear...you dealt with it in counseling. You did the sensible and responsible thing. Good for you.
 
Look at that. That's the face of evil. That's the face of a "kid" who just brutally raped and destroyed a six year old baby, and is now driving around with his horrified mother. That's the face...nothing. No emotion.



I'm not a psychologist but, maybe. However I do, unfortunately, have a lot of experience with borderlines (my mother in law, an aunt by marriage and a few opposing parties in my cases), and it doesn't smell like it to me. In my experience, borderlines like to talk, generally. A lot. They think they can explain away anything. They feel they can b.s. you or force you to accept their viewpoint, or show you that their behavior was compelled or excusable.

They tend to be over the top and have quick bursts of anger reactions. Very dramatic. Always having a major issue or problem. This kid was known to be pretty shy and we've heard nothing about any serious, on-going behavioral issues.

Not being an expert in psych issues, I think the intense violence and horror of the crime coupled with his attempts to manipulate, fear only shown for himself (stomach heaving the car), impassioned face at the vigil and in the car (I would expect a borderline to have public displays of emotion and to make it about them - hero or devastated insider), and his ability to turn off his emotions at the police interview and yawn and stretch when they weren't in the room, as a direct and very opposite exhibition of emotion from his earlier, apparent grief or horror stricken catatonia, we are dealing with someone much more sophisticated and scary than a borderline.

But that's my guess.



Yes.

We would have no idea he brutally raped and murdered a child.
he is evil.
 
This might not be a popular viewpoint here, but re: him yawning, I suspect this was involuntary, that he really might have been extremely exhausted. He stated on SM, iirc, that he didn't sleep much; mix this with everything happening--it was quite a week for him. jmo (I also stated earlier that I believe that when he was staring off, snotty, crying, pacing, that I think this was the moment where it must have hit him that his life was over. My opinion is that these actions were not necessarily acting in order to lay the bricks for an insanity defense.) JMO

From reading some of info that GG stated online, it appears he has had problems sleeping at night for quite awhile. The comments I read were from a year ago. It appeared often he did not sleep at all. Made me think of mental health issues or possibly taking some type of supplements etc.
 
Respectfully SBM
Look at that. That's the face of evil. That's the face of a "kid" who just brutally raped and destroyed a six year old baby, and is now driving around with his horrified mother. That's the face...nothing. No emotion.
Kind of telling that he was to distraught to let them do DNA yet he wasn't to distraught to get dressed and drive his mom around. I'm sure that stood out to LE.

JMO
 
This might not be a popular viewpoint here, but re: him yawning, I suspect this was involuntary, that he really might have been extremely exhausted. He stated on SM, iirc, that he didn't sleep much; mix this with everything happening--it was quite a week for him. jmo (I also stated earlier that I believe that when he was staring off, snotty, crying, pacing, that I think this was the moment where it must have hit him that his life was over. My opinion is that these actions were not necessarily acting in order to lay the bricks for an insanity defense.) JMO
I rather agree that this was not intended to set up for an insanity defense. In younger years, if I had done something wrong, I did exactly that when questioned by my parents. I would not lie, but I would not incriminate myself, either. Instead, I would not look them in the eye, stare at an object or wall and stay silent. Saying anything would not have helped the situation, so all I could do was "tune out" to keep myself from reacting at all. What he did in the room seemed normal to me, not like he was trying to "act", but trying to disassociate himself from the situation because there was no upside for him and he knew it.
 
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You can jump if you want , but that is NOT the face of neglect.
That is the face of purity, joy , innocence and delight.
 
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