Found Deceased WA - Jenise Wright, 6, Bremerton, 2 Aug 2014 - #7 *Arrest*

[SCHMAE]

KitsapSun ‏@KitsapSun 1m
Here's what some who know him say about the teen arrested in connection with Jenise's death.http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/local-news/shock-expressed-over-teens-arrest-in-6yearolds-death_93475800 …

Very interesting info at this link about competency vs. insanity plea . Great info. tks for sharing

 

[Snoop Sister]

Stranger Danger (and nonstranger danger, as an obvious matter of fact) is an important and necessary thing for kids to know. But jeez, not like this. Words can not express how hard it was to talk to my students about this seriously, without traumatizing them. It's a fine line. I mean you want them to be scared in the sense that they are extra careful, but these types of things that happened in Jessica's case are just too much for a kids' psyche, (rape, dismemberment, etc.) imo. These things are too much for an adult's psyche!! Thank goodness so many gory details in JR's case were kept under wraps, for the kids' sakes. jmo

Copings skills could be taught and there various trauma related exercises that can be taught. The children do not need to know all the details of the murder and indeed need to be sheltered. However, one does not know what they have heard about J's fate. And, that is when trained trauma experts can help. I was just saying it is a good thing that counsellors will be available and there will be teachable moments.

 

[margarita25]

(Thank goodness they didn't have ******* (ask), facebook, and all this other stuff when I was a teen---who knows what I might have thrown out there)

 

[Inthedetails]

I think the blunt force injuries are evidence of RAGE. I think he was repressing lots of anger and rage and it all came forth in this violent episode. I read as many interviews as I could find, describing GG. And he has been described as shy, polite, introverted, reserved, speaks only when spoken to, nice.

I see that as possibly repressed emotion, waiting to blow. He had a few older brothers who were star athletes and very well known and popular. GG suffered from depression and was shy and reserved. I see that as potentially repressed anger and insecurity. Was he afraid of trying to live up to familial expectations?

He's entering his senior year, which means he should be the star of the wrestling and football teams. No more underclassman and little brother status - it's time to step up and be the man. Plus, I'm *guessing* he would be looking for sports scholarships and college admissions. It's a time for a lot of pressure on someone who appears to have some emotional/mental issues. This is NOT to defend him, but the timing of almost back-to-school time stands out to me.

It's almost like a slo-mo suicide. He ended his life with the crime. There is no more pressure to perform at school or sports because he's now done with that life.

I do agree with you about the rage. My hunch, based really on nothing but a hunch, is it's rage toward his mom. Or himself, I guess. I'm still trying to figure him out, like all of you.

 

[margarita25]

Copings skills could be taught and there various trauma related exercises that can be taught. The children do not need to know all the details of the murder and indeed need to be sheltered. However, one does not know what they have heard about J's fate. And, that is when trained trauma experts can help. I was just saying it is a good thing that counsellors will be available and there will be teachable moments.

Of course, agreed. Wasn't disagreeing with you, was just saying from experience that its a really tough thing.
There are always teachable moments, positive things that can be learned, and come from the most terrible situations. :heart:

 

[KristinSchmistin]

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You can jump if you want , but that is NOT the face of neglect.
That is the face of purity, joy , innocence and delight.

My god. Look at those happy little cheeks and the eye crinkles!!! You can't help but smile seeing that type of joy.

As a mother myself I know that her mother will never be the same. You never recover from losing a child. How awful this whole thing is. I wish there was a re-wind button for life so we could get her back.

I feel so sick thinking of how her mother will never get hugs from her or homemade valentines day cards or macaroni necklaces ever again.

There is a very special place in hell waiting for GG. :rage:

 

[Bravo]

I hope you receive a gold Rolex and a house in Hawaii at your retirement party.

Me too. Your a dolly! Got the watch. Not a Rolex at 25 years. I'm at 32 years. I have the watch. The crystal broke LOL. What we wear at work we call it a wrist band. Connected to 911. We push it they are there. Last time a few weeks ago. Longest 3 minutes of our teams life protecting 7 other Clients. It was ugly and it was violent.

 

[KristinSchmistin]

(Thank goodness they didn't have ******* (ask), facebook, and all this other stuff when I was a teen---who knows what I might have thrown out there)

I always tell my husband "thank god there was no Facebook when I was in college... No evidence of my stupidity!"

 

[Hatfield]

Meh, spice is just super strong pot. It can induce violence prob in unstable people. I know someone who has tried it and said it was just really strong and made him sleep. Bath salts is like meth pretty much.

We need to be careful to be accurate when we can.

This is simply not true that "spice" is strong pot (marijuana). As most people know typical marijuana (or pot or weed) is a real organic leafy plant that contains varying levels of THC which is the incredient that causes the "high" in people. Some states are legalizing it for medical use and even some states like Colorado have legalized it for recreational use.

"Spice" or "Incense" on the other hand is a complex man made synthetic compound which was made to mimic the effects of marijuana and get around the laws, however, due to its varying uncontrolled chemicals and mixtures with other substances, it has been known to cause terrible reactions and serious physchotic episodes in people. It is very dangerous and it is being outlawed in many states at this point. When it first came out, some blends were sold in gas stations and head shops.

Just wanted to be sure we have accurate information and the below link of information gives much more detail on "spice". I am glad it is for the most part banned in lots of states now.

Also, "bath salts" is not "meth" as they are 2 entirely different things. They are both very dangerous of course, but they are also both very different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_cannabis

 

[margarita25]

This won't necessarily be a popular opinion, but here goes. When something horrendous like this happens, especially when the perp is young him/herself, we always seek ways to 'understand,' to 'explain,' to make the crime make sense is some way. Even though we should (and do, really) know better, we always seem to expect the inward evil to manifest itself outwardly. We WANT criminals who commit monstrous acts to look look monstrous. We don't want them to look like a normal person, like a neighbor kid, like someone in our own family, perhaps. Because if monsters don't LOOK like monsters, and they don't ACT like monsters in everyday life, how are we ever going to know who they are? How are we ever going to stop them from hurting someone? From hurting us or someone we love?? Well, the truth is we can't, and that is just too terrifying to contemplate. So we search for answers......

This is so true. It was so scary wondering who the perp is (again, in JR's case), really understanding that this guy likely doesn't have a swaztika tattoo on his forehead, that it could be anyone.

 

[KristinSchmistin]

We need to be careful to be accurate when we can.

This is simply not true that "spice" is strong pot (marijuana). As most people know typical marijuana (or pot or weed) is a real organic leafy plant that contains varying levels of THC which is the incredient that causes the "high" in people. Some states are legalizing it for medical use and even some states like Colorado have legalized it for recreational use.

"Spice" or "Incense" on the other hand is a complex man made synthetic compound which was made to mimic the effects of marijuana and get around the laws, however, due to its varying uncontrolled chemicals and mixtures with other substances, it has been known to cause terrible reactions and serious physchotic episodes in people. It is very dangerous and it is being outlawed in many states at this point. When it first came out, some blends were sold in gas stations and head shops.

Just wanted to be sure we have accurate information and the below link of information gives much more detail on "spice". I am glad it is for the most part banned in lots of states now.

Also, "bath salts" is not "meth" as they are 2 entirely different things. They are both very dangerous of course, but they are also both very different.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synthetic_cannabis

I agree, not the same at all.

You should look at the wiki for bath salts- very similar (structurally) to meth. It produces similar high, but more dangerous. Obviously. I mean, remember the case in Miami where the naked dude ate someone's face on a freeway? Yeah. Terrifying.


But you're right, I guess I was being too general.

 

[Biggles]

This might not be a popular viewpoint here, but re: him yawning, I suspect this was involuntary, that he really might have been extremely exhausted. He stated on SM, iirc, that he didn't sleep much; mix this with everything happening--it was quite a week for him. jmo (I also stated earlier that I believe that when he was staring off, snotty, crying, pacing, that I think this was the moment where it must have hit him that his life was over. My opinion is that these actions were not necessarily acting in order to lay the bricks for an insanity defense.) JMO

I am in agreement, and I also want to acknowledge that my views on GG's actions in the police interview room may not be popular. However, I have watched quite a number of police interview tapes over the years, and it is common for suspects to act differently as soon as detectives exit the interview room. Their reactions range from anger (hitting the table or the wall; throwing things) to sadness (outright sobbing; head held in hands) to desperation (looking skyward; praying) to fatigue (head down on table; even lying down on the floor and falling asleep!) Here we don't have video to look at, but the written description is not inconsistent with an interview of a suspect who knows he is guilty, and who believes the police know of his guilt.

It's true that GG's behavior grows increasingly odd, but this is a person who has spent a week in a living hell of his own making. (I'm not in any way forgetting or minimizing the ghastly, unforgivable weeklong nightmare he put many other people through, just speaking to his state of mind at this point.) The arc of the interview has him going from "quiet and reserved" to "uncomfortable" to "crying... tears streaming down his face". I know that many have interpreted his silence and fixed gaze as acting, but I said earlier that I felt he was resorting to primitive defense behaviors ("too upset to talk") in trying to avoid the inevitable confrontation with LE, and I interpret these attempts at evasion as more of the same. He knows he's taken a life, he's ruined his own life and devastated two families (at a minimum), and I think that's not an easy thing for anyone to have to own up to. He literally cannot face the detectives unless commanded to, and even then he quickly returns to evading their gazes. But in the end, GG admitted sole responsibility for the actions that led to Jenise's death, so I'd call it a successful interview from LE's perspective.

 

[katydid23]

I am not convinced that GG was doing any drugs. He might have been doing creatine or some kind of steroids, but that depends upon his schools testing regulations. Many wrestling teams routinely test for drugs and supplements/steroids.

 

[Momoffourboys]

FWIW I believe GG took JW to Burger King saturday night. i believe the sighting was accurate. I believe it was in one of the family cars that have been impounded. JMO

 

[Ghostwheel]

I find it hard to believe that he could not have asphyxiated her. He is a wrestler. Isn't there a move called the choke-hold? Why the blood and gore? Was he into that? So cruel and unnecessary. JMO

I think the blunt force injuries are evidence of RAGE. I think he was repressing lots of anger and rage and it all came forth in this violent episode. I read as many interviews as I could find, describing GG. And he has been described as shy, polite, introverted, reserved, speaks only when spoken to, nice.

I see that as possibly repressed emotion, waiting to blow. He had a few older brothers who were star athletes and very well known and popular. GG suffered from depression and was shy and reserved. I see that as potentially repressed anger and insecurity. Was he afraid of trying to live up to familial expectations?

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The above posts make me wonder if the blunt force trauma didn't come after she was deceased. Anger after realizing he had killed her (grabbing her head and repeatedly beating it into the ground or wall-"How...could...you...die?"). And then I have to think that the strap found on top of the pallet was the ligature, and possibly not meant to kill her, but subdue her. I also have to wonder if this started out as a game that went really south ( I used to wrestle with my friends all the time, but we weren't 11 years apart and granted, a 17 year old should know better if that were the case). Just thinking out loud. It just doesn't look planned, unless he has no planning ability at all.

 

[Momoffourboys]

I am not convinced that GG was doing any drugs. He might have been doing creatine or some kind of steroids, but that depends upon his schools testing regulations. Many wrestling teams routinely test for drugs and supplements/steroids.

Do you know if high school athletes are drug tested in WA?
I know they are not in NY.

 

[Krystine]

My god. Look at those happy little cheeks and the eye crinkles!!! You can't help but smile seeing that type of joy.

As a mother myself I know that her mother will never be the same. You never recover from losing a child. How awful this whole thing is. I wish there was a re-wind button for life so we could get her back.

I feel so sick thinking of how her mother will never get hugs from her or homemade valentines day cards or macaroni necklaces ever again.

There is a very special place in hell waiting for GG. :rage:

I am hoping that special place in hell isn't too cushy. I'd like to see LWOT (Life without technology). Otherwise prison would be just like living at home forever.

 

[Oregonmama]

FWIW I believe GG took JW to Burger King saturday night. i believe the sighting was accurate. I believe it was in one of the family cars that have been impounded. JMO

I missed this part. Do you have a link for this info?

 

[georgiasblu]

I, for one, could give not give a rat's ars about GG's athletic claims to fame. In my eyes, he is evil. Pure evil. My heart breaks, as a parent, for Jenise's family and GG's family. The pain must be immense and immeasurable. What a tragedy for the entire community.

Certainly, he will have plenty of time to work on his kleenex flower skills.

"During the interview, when detectives were outside the room but watching on a closed circuit camera, a detective wrote Gaeta had been stretching, yawning and “moving about” the room. He also rolled up a Kleenex into “what appeared to be a flower.”

http://www.kitsapsun.com/news/local-news/teen-murder-suspect-to-be-tried-as-adult_29281406

I thought the flower thing was quite bizarre.

 

[EllaMae]

[modsnip] As a medical professional for over 35 years, GP are usually the first ones to diagnose and treat. They absolutely should be prescribing these meds. [modsnip] Nurse practitioners can prescribe certain meds, but do not have the full training of a physician.

Actually it's not totally incorrect. I work for a family medicine practice, and neither Dr. will prescribe psych meds that often, and never for the long term. They will write the initial Rx only very rarely in certain cases where the need is urgent, and then they always refer the patient to a psychiatrist. They only write for depression, and will not see patients for that issue after the patient has been sent to a psychiatrist. In my state, psychiatrists do mainly medication management only, and any counseling is done by a psychologist or licensed therapist. This is the way it's been handled for quite a while now. Family medicine practitioners don't manage psych meds, and they are not trained to really diagnose or treat mental health issues for the long term. If possible, they refer the patient to a psychiatrist first before even writing an initial Rx. They do not want to treat a patient who would be better served by seeing a trained specialist who can diagnose and treat mental health issues.
I also worked for 2 different psychiatric practices which used nurse practitioners, and the nurse practitioner can write any meds that a Dr. can write in my state. When our Drs. were out of town the nurse practitioner wrote all the Rx for patients.
With the rise in specialty medical practices, family medical practitioners do a lot of referrals to specialists for all kinds of medical issues. There really are no"general practitioners" in medicine now.