DC - Savvas Savopoulos, family & Veralicia Figueroa murdered; Daron Wint Arrested #4

[Voice4theSilent]

Maybe this photo of red car in drive?

It doesn't look like the garage is open in that photo?

 

[panthera]

Knowing SS's martial arts background (a long one), if there was only one perpetrator present he would have most likely been able to kill him. There had to be other perps present.

Perhaps, however, there are a couple of scenarios where all the martial arts training in the world wouldn't have helped him. First, there is the possibility the perp was already in the house and had restrained his wife, son and housekeeper when he got home. Secondly, if a perp has a knife to one's throat or just the mere threat of murdering your wife, son and housekeeper, chances are the man will comply instead. One perpetrator can hold an entire family hostage. Sadly, it has happened before.

MOO

 

[GigiG]

Maybe this photo of red car in drive?

My understanding is that there are two red cars. The one in the driveway is an Audi, I believe. It seems that the one in the garage was the Mosler. That is the car where the money was left.

I'm wondering about the Bentley. Was that the car that the assistant regularly drove Mr. S in? If the Mosler (rarely driven) is on the left side of the garage, perhaps the Bentley is on the right side? But that would require moving the red Audi out of the way in order for the Bentley to be parked in the garage, then re-parking the Audi in the driveway. Or maybe the Audi was the car Savvas used most days, and the Bentley was used less frequently. Idle speculation.

But whichever one was used as the main car for ferrying Mr. Savopoulos around, we don't know which car was used that Wednesday.

Like others, I am curious as to how Savvas and Nelly got home to their respective domiciles Wednesday evening. It seems obvious that neither was driven by the assistant.

 

[MyBelle]

At the time they interviewed W1 and W2, they didn't know who committed the crimes and were worried the perpetrator(s) could try to take out any known witnesses. Even after they named Wint as a suspect, they didn't know where he was. LE is still seeking unknown (as far as we know) accomplices who could ostensibly kill off anyone who could testify in court. The fact that they believe W1 and W2 are/were in danger makes them less likely as suspects to me - if IT was the only other co-conspirator, IT and W2 wouldn't be in danger from IT! But, unless they know the perpetrator(s), what information do they really have that makes them a threat to the perp(s)? Maybe this makes them more suspicious! Oh my head!

The charging documents were sealed to protect the witnesses from Wint or one of his cohorts from silencing them before his arrest. I think W-2 is NG and she certainly seems to have silenced herself since those charging documents were released.

JMO

 

[i.b.nora]

The 2015 Tenshin-ryu & Yamate-ryu Taikai will be held May 16th and 17th at the new honbu dojo in Chantilly, Virginia.

From: http://www.ittendojo.org

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Shoshin Dōjō, Three Rivers Budōkai
March 16 ·
A productive first day of work on The Sōmon; the new hombu dōjō of the Tenshin-ryū and Yamate-ryū, located in Chantilly, VA. This is going to be something VERY special when it's complete.

https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=908568129163845&id=183751014978897

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[rkf]

So far we know about:

A blue Porsche
A Bentley
A Mosler
A Range Rover

The red convertible in the driveway looks like an Audi A5 to me.
And this could be the Bentley in the photo of AIW about midway down the page. If so, it's not red.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...g-CEO-family-DC-mansion-used-work-welder.html

If the Mosler is red, that is certainly a car that would draw attention! Okay, even if it's not red, you don't see one of those on the road everyday.
https://www.google.com/search?q=mos...W0ogTQzoDgAQ&ved=0CAcQ_AUoAQ&biw=1147&bih=623

 

[roguelady]

Knowing SS's martial arts background (a long one), if there was only one perpetrator present he would have most likely been able to kill him. There had to be other perps present.

Not if he walked into the living room and his wife, son and housekeeper were bound, gagged, duct-taped and had a knife to one of their throats. Not sure what I'd do - but maybe we have all learned. I think now I'd run out of the house screaming bloody murder so everyone could hear.

 

[FerrariRose]

Would each bank branch have $40K cash on hand to dispense to an individual wishing to make an immediate withdrawl? Or would it likely have been requested the previous business day in order for the transfer to be made? Curious.

MOO

At Bank of America a large withdrawal (over $10,000) must be ordered 3 days in advance.

 

[jjenny]

Knowing SS's martial arts background (a long one), if there was only one perpetrator present he would have most likely been able to kill him. There had to be other perps present.

You'd think that. But only one person was seen driving the car, and only one person seen on camera running away.

 

[Wagara]

Marking my spot.

 

[FerrariRose]

I'm wondering about the Bentley. Was that the car that the assistant regularly drove Mr. S in? If the Mosler (rarely driven) is on the left side of the garage, perhaps the Bentley is on the right side?

In the picture that I saw, the right side of the garage was empty. It's possible the driver has the Bentley.

 

[panthera]

At Bank of America a large withdrawal (over $10,000) must be ordered 3 days in advance.

Thank you....just as I had thought. Large amounts can be withdrawn in the form of a cashier's check or transfer to another account but usually never in cash without advance notice.

 

[clearskies1]

At Bank of America a large withdrawal (over $10,000) must be ordered 3 days in advance.

Do you know whether a person who has four separate accounts at BofA could get immediate access to $40,000 -- or is the $10,000 a total limit for all accounts held by a person? TIA.

 

[corundogs]

At Bank of America a large withdrawal (over $10,000) must be ordered 3 days in advance.

Isn't it possible he had cash in his safety deposit box? It wouldn't require a bank employee to be involved at all to get that.

 

[Canaille]

Maybe his company really did have that kind of cash on hand in a safe. The website states, "...AIW continues to operate debt-free..."

My brain is too numb to explain my thoughts on this.

 

[fred&edna]

If I'm going to launder money, I'm not going to get my accountant, company brass and my new assistant/driver involved.:facepalm:

Just a thought at the time I made that post:

When the assistant/driver was instructed to pick up $ from AIW and deliver it to the home he had no clue that anyone was being held at gun/knife point for a ransom. He was perfectly innocent, but maybe he thought he had made some sort of illegal "drop", something bad happened, and he lied in an attempt to protect himself/his employer??

Do we know for a fact the driver had not picked-up / dropped-off $$ before??

SS couldn't get his hands on more $ at the time.... so the $40,000 cash was in someone's pants' pockets and he knew he could at least get that.

 

[jjenny]

At Bank of America a large withdrawal (over $10,000) must be ordered 3 days in advance.

I am sure they could make an exception for a really good client. Which is probably what happened here.

 

[jjenny]

Isn't it possible he had cash in his safety deposit box? It wouldn't require a bank employee to be involved at all to get that.

If money were in a deposit box, then all one would have to do is go get it. No notice necessary.

 

[sleuthinginca]

If money were in a deposit box, then all one would have to do is go get it. No notice necessary.

I have a card on file with my sdb....listing the people allowed to access it. You must show id and at that time... be escorted to the sdb room.

 

[FerrariRose]

Do you know whether a person who has four separate accounts at BofA could get immediate access to $40,000 -- or is the $10,000 a total limit for all accounts held by a person? TIA.

I have 3 accounts at BofA. One is my business account. I was told $10,000 is the limit for 1 day withdrawal for a business. $5,000 is the 1 day limit for a personal account.