Duchess518
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What is the mythical butt print?
Ok the mythical butt print.What is the mythical butt print?
Yes, this is correct. I remember reading this as well. When the FBI realized the sketchiness that was going on, they packed up and got the hell outta there. They were there to advise, but realized quickly they were wasting their time.
Ok the mythical butt print.
Mary Lacy did a walkthrough of the crime scene on like the 30th of December. She stated that a butt print was noted in the carpet outside of JonBenet's room and it looked like someone had their feet up close and their knees to the chest. No other marks were noted in the carpet. She said they all thought that this is where someone sat to wait to kidnap
JonBenet. When she made her decision to exonerate the Ramsey's this played a part in her decision. Yet no one else remembers a butt print. There's no proof of the butt print. Also... how would you know if a mark on the carpet was a butt print anyway? The area I circled was supposedly the area she referred to finding this mysterious butt print. Anywhere up there the parents or Burke would have noticed someone sitting. There's two flights of stairs outside of her bedroom. Plus Burke would have had to walk past anyone also. The story is just that. Mythical. Like a unicorn.
That Mary Lacy based her decision off of that plus DNA that she knew wasn't workable DNA and she exonerated the Ramsey's. Their Lawyer Lin Wood has used her exoneration for his defense all these years too. Now he has nothing to go on.
I hope that made sense too? lol!
I would have been begging for help from the FBI!Also, the FBI offered assistance to the BPD but then-Chief Koby turned them down. What a stupid move! I still can't wrap my head around it. The detectives were not happy about it, obviously. Steve Thomas talks about it in his book.
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It was the first I had heard of it too!THANK YOU! I've never heard of this before. Makes me smh. Lacy is...no words for this.
It was the first I had heard of it too!
Apparently when Kolar asked the people who saw it with her, they had no clue what she was talking about.
It's obvious to me if you have corrupt DA's, no matter how hard a good detective works, they will never be able to get the truth out if there is to be a coverup.
She had a conflict of interest too with the Ramsey's. She didn't want to ruin her relationship with them. WTH. No integrity.
Like my grandma would've said, it was all about the greenback dollars.So sad. Everyone forgot there is a dead little girl in The middle of this
LIke him or not, what he does is understandable. He's their lawyer. It's when the prosecution and others closely associated with the case are in collusion with the defense that there is a major problem and one in dire need of being exposed.Yes they did :banghead::banghead::banghead::banghead:
I used to ask how Woody could sleep at night. I ask the same about ML, AH, and everyone else who stopped the train of justice.
RBBM- Ain't that the truth!Like my grandma would've said, it was all about the greenback dollars.
LIke him or not, what he does is understandable. He's their lawyer. It's when the prosecution and others closely associated with the case are in collusion with the defense that there is a major problem and one in dire need of being exposed.
RBBM- Ain't that the truth!
That's why I don't understand how the citizens of Boulder aren't demanding answers to this case. I wouldn't want that corrupt bunch in charge of my loved one's murder case.
AMEN!I wouldn't want them in charge of a bicycle theft. And you're right: the people of Boulder ultimately must shoulder the blame. If I had been living there, I'd have had a mob down at the DA's office with torches and pitchforks in the wake of the JMK debacle.
I'd like to have seen that on national news!I wouldn't want them in charge of a bicycle theft. And you're right: the people of Boulder ultimately must shoulder the blame. If I had been living there, I'd have had a mob down at the DA's office with torches and pitchforks in the wake of the JMK debacle.
PositiveLight,
We all understand your outrage. I'm not one to know much about the history of WS, but I do recall that this site was started because justice wasn't being served in this case. I remember reading that somewhere, but my memory is flawed. We've all studied the outrage of the case and what the investigators went through. This had to be one of the worst days of Officer French's life. It destroyed Linda Arndt's career forever. Many good investigators quit due to stress and burn-out. Two DA's careers are forever tarnished (tarnished is too weak, but I don't have a good expletive). The friends of the Ramseys have all been dragged through the mud and will never be able to escape this nightmare. And Boulder will forever be remembered as a party town and the place where Jonbenet was murdered and the investigation was botched. Everyone who touches this case is hurt. And unfortunately, many people time and time again have felt the way you do. (I personally think SD would like to imprison or do worse to AH and AL.)
I'd like to have seen that on national news!
p.s. Great new signature line, SuperDave - one of my all-time favorite lines from a great Peter Finch scene in "Network".
I totally feel sorry for Linda Arndt!PositiveLight,
We all understand your outrage. I'm not one to know much about the history of WS, but I do recall that this site was started because justice wasn't being served in this case. I remember reading that somewhere, but my memory is flawed. We've all studied the outrage of the case and what the investigators went through. This had to be one of the worst days of Officer French's life. It destroyed Linda Arndt's career forever. Many good investigators quit due to stress and burn-out. Two DA's careers are forever tarnished (tarnished is too weak, but I don't have a good expletive). The friends of the Ramseys have all been dragged through the mud and will never be able to escape this nightmare. And Boulder will forever be remembered as a party town and the place where Jonbenet was murdered and the investigation was botched. Everyone who touches this case is hurt. And unfortunately, many people time and time again have felt the way you do. (I personally think SD would like to imprison or do worse to AH and AL.)
There's so much interest and outrage that the Boulder police will not talk about it anymore. They'll only do taped statements.
And it's been so bad that a former Governor of Colorado is still talking about the case to the press and making negative statements about the former DA. Do you know anywhere else where the case was so badly handled that a Governor has done this?
It's been 20 years and many people are still waiting for justice. Unfortunately, it may never come.
P.S. I really think it's too bad about Linda Arndt's career being destroyed. She wasn't a homicide detective. As I understand it, she worked more with sexual assault cases. I can see her being a really good victim advocate. She was able to bond with Patsy, but instantly jumped to the conclusion that this was a sexual assault case before any evidence was collected. That may have been from her working too many sexual assault cases. In my line of work, I see too many devices that malfunction. My mind instantly goes to the circuits going bad, getting a defective part, worrying about the wiring. My experience is to think of everything that can and has gone wrong. Then someone mentions that I should check the battery and I'm completely embarrassed. I didn't go to the basics first. I could be completely wrong about my sympathy for LA. She was over her head in this. Sometimes we get put into positions where we completely screw-up and have absolutely no way to correct it.
I will, however, say that she's a dumb-*advertiser censored* for thinking that she could handle a simple interview. This is where a reasonably smart person thinks that because they're smart, they can do something with little or no practice. The interview she did with GMA went on for hours and the public only saw a few minutes of it. Boy was she stupid. She gets emotionally attached. The interview takes her energy and the parts they play are the moments she looks crazy.
Let me know if you think I'm wrong about her. It doesn't matter that much. As I recall, she wasn't able to get any professional jobs after this.
Nah. I just can't bring myself to have any pity for Arndt. It isn't as though she had a crowd of 100 to deal with that morning. And the last order that was given was for everyone to stay in the study (I think it was).I totally feel sorry for Linda Arndt!
She shouldered the blame for the investigation going wrong yet, they left her and French and went back to the PD to work on the case.
This case should have immediately bend handed to the FBI. The BPD doesn't have enough experience with homicides and neither did the ME.
Since it started as a kidnapping, the FBI could've still remained in charge. But I don't think the BPD wanted that to happen.
But yes I do feel so sorry for Linda and French. However I do not feel for the DA's. They made very poor judgment calls and their rep deserved to be tarnished.
It is a very sad thing to know cops who were truly seeking the truth quit their jobs due to politics not wanting to find the truth.
I don't think Linda Arndt seemed crazy in her interview. I think she came across as genuine in the interview I watched. Is it the one where she said JR was cordial?
Many say her eyes looked weird but, I have to wonder if she has a thyroid condition. My cousin has severe thyroid issues and her eyes have the "crazy" look all the time too.
So no I don't think you are wrong at all. Linda wanted justice for JonBenet. I also think her instincts were right as she observed the family and friends that morning. She might not be a homicide detective, but she was trained to pick u subtle clues and she was doing as she was trained. She had her hands full that morning and they should have left her more backup and detectives.
I also think imho of course, (please no one take offense to this!) But she seemed to be in a male dominated office. The calls she made to them for backup they may have brushed off as a over reacting female. Not saying that is what happened but, it wouldn't be the first time.
No officer there that day will ever be the same. A child's death is one of the worst for a cop.