The Sidebar - Harris Trial #3 *VERDICT - GUILTY*

[LaLaw2000]

Is it possible, on what hopefully is verdict day, to not allege by inference that anyone here is "making excuses for RH"?

I don't agree with those who think the State made their case for malice murder, but I don't remember anyone here who thinks the State didn't suggesting y'all didn't consider anything but your own biases to reach that conclusion.

Peace out.

BBM: And you as well.

Just stating my opinion as many others have done.

 

[EquallyDivided]

Requiring proof beyond a reasonable doubt = "making excuses for Ross" = Ross apologist

FYI

Showing proof and evidence = "fruit from a poisonous tree" = LE apologist.

I'll admit, I think we are all pretty set in our conclusions.



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[LaLaw2000]

Requiring proof beyond a reasonable doubt = "making excuses for Ross" = Ross apologist

FYI

I believe I have seen all the proof I need to see. FYI.

IMO

 

[SuperTmo]

300 miles would take hours to get to the courtroom. I don't think they would wait for anyone other than the prosecution team and the DT and they are all onsite

I don't think they SHOULD wait for anyone that wants to be notified, since nobody cared enough to be there during the trial. The families and friends know that the jury is deliberating; they should be there by now if they want to be there.

 

[Cinnalauda]

Is it possible, on what hopefully is verdict day, to not allege by inference that anyone here is "making excuses for RH"?

I don't agree with those who think the State made their case for malice murder, but I don't remember anyone here who thinks the State didn't suggesting y'all didn't consider anything but your own biases to reach that conclusion.

Peace out.

Couldn't agree more. Little bit tired of the accusations towards pro-accident posters "making excuses" for Ross, when really only facts are being repeated and then speculated on, by those on both sides of the fence. Personally I see many debates here logical and intelligent, with nobody "making excuses" for Ross, or for the prosecution for that matter (MOO but they could do with excuses being made for them, with that poor case for malice murder. )

Back to lurking :lurk:

 

[blue22]

Is it possible, on what hopefully is verdict day, to not allege by inference that anyone here is "making excuses for RH"?

I don't agree with those who think the State made their case for malice murder, but I don't remember anyone here who thinks the State didn't suggesting y'all didn't consider anything but your own biases to reach that conclusion.

Peace out.

Oh please, it's been inferred here plenty. Come on now.

I'm not saying it's right to do so on either side, but denying it is ludicrous.

 

[popsicle]

I think whenever it drops to victim blaming it is making excuses for the killer. jmo

 

[EquallyDivided]

Regardless of how this turns out - I do believe this jury will get it right -even if it's not what I want.

I think they are taking their time and going through evidence as they should.

On a side note, my husband is the the back yard on a tractor, deep in our Georgia pines - I have no idea what he's doing. He's a fantastic pilot, but I fear for our forest. I'm trying to occupy my mind.
*Please don't knock a tree into the pool*



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[SuperTmo]

Is it possible, on what hopefully is verdict day, to not allege by inference that anyone here is "making excuses for RH"?

I don't agree with those who think the State made their case for malice murder, but I don't remember anyone here who thinks the State didn't suggesting y'all didn't consider anything but your own biases to reach that conclusion.

Peace out.

I'm pretty sure that isn't true.

 

[JerseyGirl]

Full morning of debate and not a peep from the jury?

 

[LaLaw2000]

We do all see things differently. I'm not trying to offend anyone as we all have our own opinions.

I will just say now that my thoughts are with the jury as they make this difficult decision.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Full morning of debate and not a peep from the jury?

Almost time for lunch now.

 

[SuperTmo]

Requiring proof beyond a reasonable doubt = "making excuses for Ross" = Ross apologist

FYI

Nope, my post was in regards to blaming the young minor children. Forcing them to share responsibility for RH being a pervert = being a RH apologist. There is plenty of proof beyond *ANY* doubt that he did commit crimes against those children but for some reason it is perfectly acceptable for people to blame the girls in order to unabashedly defend RH no matter what. That is being a RH apologist.

 

[monkeypants]

Full morning of debate and not a peep from the jury?

Lol you mean in the hour so of total of deliberations..oh look lunch time...eye roll

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[bellesnwhistles]

Full morning of debate and not a peep from the jury?

Right? Please let there be a verdict so we can get on with our lives! Haha, but in all seriousness, everyone is entitled to their own opinion. We clearly have two different sides here who disagree and that's OK. Hopefully we are all here for the same reason- baby cooper

 

[monkeypants]

I'm at the dentist now..they Beyer at least wait a few more mins

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[katydid23]

RBBM, thanks never heard that. Do you know when this was talked about?TIA. Chelsea D testimony was blacked out so we didn't hear hers.

I know from testimony, that one of the witnesses that RH had sexted with was at Hilton Head with her family on June 18, 2014. RH had asked her for a bj. She didn't come forward, but her friend did and told CCPD. Kilgore asked the witness if she ever did, she said no.

I am sorry, but that is just out of control. A teen is on a family vacation, and this asks her for a BJ? He is lucky he wasn't killed outright by an angry father.

 

[Inthedetails]

I'm here today....waiting.

 

[SuperTmo]

Couldn't agree more. Little bit tired of the accusations towards pro-accident posters "making excuses" for Ross, when really only facts are being repeated and then speculated on, by those on both sides of the fence. Personally I see many debates here logical and intelligent, with nobody "making excuses" for Ross, or for the prosecution for that matter (MOO but they could do with excuses being made for them, with that poor case for malice murder. )

Back to lurking :lurk:

Nobody is making excuses for the prosecution but the "pro-accident posters" blame LE, Stoddard in particular, with more passion than they assign ANY responsibility to RH. Accident or not, RH is responsible, but that fact seems so far lost on some posters. With the happiness and zeal in which Stoddard has been put on trial by that side, you'd think HE was the one who locked Cooper Harris in the car to die.

 

[Hope4More]

Lol you mean in the hour so of total of deliberations..oh look lunch time...eye roll

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Maybe the jury foreman thinks taking frequent breaks is a proactive means of reducing tension/contention.


I think they're doing things right - they're not rushing, they're not indicating they're hung on anything, and they surely did choose some key pieces of evidence to examine for themselves.