Where on earth did they get those photos of JB's body? Does anyone know if they explain the source?
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No offense DFF but I hope they don't explain how they got them and I hope no one goes after them looking for a paper trail. THis case has always needed people with the courage to reveal more photos/evidence in this case. I've said it before, if enough evidence comes out and it gets attention, it might pressure Boulder to actually take forward steps in seriously attempting to resolve this case.
More autopsy photos aren't needed but I'm hoping pics from the Whites party, pics of other key areas of the house(those odd pics in JAR's room, the pics on Ramsey camera that don't match up with police photos, etc.), and other info not known to the public surfaces soon.
BPD/DA had 20 years to solve this thing. They've twiddled their thumbs for the majority of that time. If they're unwilling to hand it to the feds knowing there's a risk of them uncovering all the corruption, those with courage and a desire for justice should release their files and let the amateur sleuths take a crack at it.
I agree with everything in this post. The basement has secrets. I almost feel like JBR was being punished for something, and she was perhaps kept down in one of those closets that night or something -- almost like an extreme version of "go sit in the corner" -- "go sit in this locked closet in the basement for a while."
From the schematics, it says that the basement had a crawl space. I always wondered if perhaps the body was originally placed here, before being moved to the wine cellar. Just brainstorming.
YEah I'd like to see pics of that crawl space too.
Good observation on the possibility of her being sent down there as punishment. I could also imagine a "game" Burke might play where he takes her down there, puts her in that shower or a closet, he quickly runs back upstairs and turns the light off on his way out and she starts crying or screaming. Can also imagine Patsy locking her down there as punishment for god knows what.
BTW, I'm not referring to Christmas night. THis may have been a regular thing in that house of horrors.
That basement is insidious.
While I do believe a majority of what happened that night happened on the second floor, if it happened in stages and she was being chased by someone, it infuriates me to imagine she might have had no choice but to run down to the area of the house that scared her the most in an attempt to reach safety...that basement. :maddening:
Here's some questions I'm looking for answers on. These are important to a deep look I'm taking into what I think is the probably the most important piece of evidence in this case.
1) Is there any record of the R's referring to either of the kids bedrooms as a "Suite" or "En Suite"? Or anywhere else in the house they refer to as that?
2) Is there any record of the R's referring to any part of the house as a "Study"?
3) What are the names of all the visitors they had come over on murder morning?
4) Do you know of any nicknames they used to refer to those visitors?
5) What are any nicknames the R's used within their own family for each other?
Thanks.
1. Good question. Since Jonbenet practically had her own wing in the house it wouldn't surprise me.
2. I'm pretty sure JOhn had a study but don't know if he/they referred to it as such.
3. Great question. WE know the Ramsey clique excluding the Stines were there but I'd definitely like to see an official list of every single person who set foot in that house at any point that day, even if only for a few minutes.
4. Another good question.
5. GREAT question. I'd like an answer to that one too. It would give us another glimpse into this family's dynamic.
Hi there, we just released them in paperback as well. The full The Craven Silence trilogy is up and avail. The first book to The Day After Christmas trilogy is up as well - see all links below. The last 2 books will be live in the next day or two - they're just going through the publishing process now.
We hope you read them and would love to hear your thoughts.
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https://www.amazon.com/Craven-Silence-JonBenet-Worldwide-Vintage/dp/154035329X/
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When I checked last night to order the new book on Amazon, I only saw the Kindle version. I don't like reading on KIndle and prefer actual books.
I'll start off with the new one and then buy the others as well as a show of support. Anyone who has the courage to reveal info in this case deserves it and it certainly appears like you genuinely want the truth to come out and you back it up with sharing things others want buried. Many others just want to make money by dancing on her grave. Your heart is in the right place.
BTW, I didn't know the owner of that site posted here. Had I known that, I would've waited for you to post those pictures instead.
I would hope all members here(and the lurkers) support her and that site by buying this new book they released(and maybe the others too). LIke I said, it takes a lot of courage to do what they did and it certainly didn't come without risk. We all want justice, redemption, and closure for this innocent girl murdered in her own home and a mountain of corruption has been climbed on the journey there. The more info that comes out that TPTB want buried, the closer to the summit we get.
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Hi singularity,
One of the reasons those photos look different than what we have seen is because they were taken by the police shortly after she was brought up from the basement. At that point she was in full rigor. Rigor begins in the small muscles and then reverses. ......
Good points. The discrepancies go back to the early days of the case. I always hated that drawing that made it appear she is peacefully asleep. It was deceptive although probably not intentional. Obviously the reality was much harsher.
As one can note from BRs answers to the psychologist who talked to him in January, BR says that he was just going to move on with his life. This was a flag to me that an adult had coached him before his interview, even though PR claimed otherwise.
Yeah its definitely a coached answer. Such a term isn't really the normal vocabulary for a 9 year old boy. Sounds like Patsy for sure but after hearing/reading John's interviews, you can imagine him saying it too.
Closest person to me who died is my dad in 1995. I was 19, he was 39. I cant imagine saying so soon that its time to move on with my life. I was shell shocked by his death and it almost destroyed me. I quickly dove into the bottom of a pill bottle(and other assorted drugs).
They said this about the murder of a six year old child. These people are twisted.
UK....
singularity,
It probably does not mattter but are the long johns on back to front?
Oh it matters but I think kanzz gave the answer to that. The stains do technically match where they should. I'd like to see the full picture of her in that position so we can see the full length of the long johns to confirm it but not gonna complain. Its a miracle these pics surfaced.
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