NV - 59 Dead, over 500 injured in Mandalay Bay shooting in Las Vegas, 1 Oct 2017 #3

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Worrying about his personality disorder now is pointless. I would argue psychopathy is probably wrong as it does not fit that disorder's pattern of long-term abuse of others and pure selfishness. It's much more the trait of the malignant paranoid or paranoid schizophrenic. But it's meaningless at this point. What a horror. An absolute horror.

Years of studying crime as a fiction writer have convinced me that a DNA database is mandatory and Federal regulation of firearms including mental health checks is needed. People in rural areas have a right to hunting arms, that is single-shot rifles for taking deer or shooting varmints. People also have a right to small arms like handguns for self-defense, especially people in high crime areas and stalked women. But nobody should be buying and selling military grade automatic weapons of the type that enabled this massacre. No way he can kill that many people that fast without military grade weaponry. He was better armed than any soldier in World War II or even the Vietnam War.

Most soldiers even as recent as World War II were armed with single shot rifles, not automatic weapons. Even in Vietnam, the M-16 rifle carried by most soldiers fired only .22 caliber rounds.

I really at times can go here too
 
Ah ha

so she actually was moving out !

His track record with intimate relationships aint all that great!!

Could have just been that tho!!


-where is this info about MD moving out? Ive had no opportunity to see any news broadcast today. Thank you!
 
Paddock possibly psychotic but not ‘psychopath,’ experts say
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime...bly-psychotic-but-not-psychopath-experts-say/

Benning said psychopaths, also sometimes referred to as sociopaths, share three characteristics — meanness, impulsiveness, or “disinhibition” in psychiatric parlance, and boldness. And generally, he said, they exhibit those qualities repeatedly over a lifetime.

Up until now, he said, Paddock hadn’t demonstrated any of those qualities. Benning noted that Paddock hadn’t had serious problems with the law, no history of assaulting people.

Nor did Paddock exhibit the charisma or daredevilry so often seen in psychopaths. He dabbled in real estate, worked in an airline factory and planned for tomorrow by buying homes. He was content to live, in effect, behind the scenes.


We still do not know much about Stephen Paddock.

Not all psychopaths are that charismatic. Some like to behind the scene.

Barker, who is now president and CEO of Red Rock Global Security Group in Colorado, said Paddock may have suffered from some sort of psychosis, though it’s impossible to say what it might have been at this stage of the investigation.

He said he believes the key to finding out what made Paddock act out in such a horrific way will be found in his childhood.

“I believe there was some trauma there,” he said.


I would be interested in Paddock's childhood. The father was largely absent in his life. I would be interested what kind of upbringing he had.

I dont buy the no criminal record stuff!!

He moved around in 4 states, I think he used alias just like daddy!
 
The weird vibe I get comes from the way she expresses herself and the terms she uses. The delivery was strange.

Idk, it’s totally just my opinion, but if my former boss did something like this, despite how close we were, I don’t think I’d want to be known as someone who knew him better than a wife.

I don't know why she would say something like that either. Very strange.
 
A doc wouldn't do that with valium

Yep, they would. I work in a jail and that's what we give for alcohol withdrawal. I've also seen prescriptions from personal physicians for Valium for detox, back when I used to work on an inpatient detox unit. Sometimes patients would try to do it at home and end up coming to the hospital instead.
 
“A US official says investigators believe the Las Vegas shooter may have hired a prostitute in the days before the shooting, and they are interviewing other call girls as they look for clues into his motive.

The official said Friday that prostitutes are among the hundreds of leads they are pursuing as part of their investigation into Stephen Paddock.
The official, who was briefed by federal law enforcement officials, wasn't authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stitute-days-mass-shooting.html#ixzz4umtk0B31
 
I read he was worried about being without coverage so he had two phones from two different carriers.

Maybe out in Nevada coverage is better in certain areas for certain networks. Since he traveled a lot around the state, he wanted phones that worked everywhere.
 
I don't know why she would say something like that either. Very strange.

And frankly, if she knew him so well, how did she not see his crumbling mental health? They talked not even a month ago so it’s not like they haven’t been in touch.

It’s a shame but I think some people thrive off of inserting themselves into a tragedy.
 
“A US official says investigators believe the Las Vegas shooter may have hired a prostitute in the days before the shooting, and they are interviewing other call girls as they look for clues into his motive.

The official said Friday that prostitutes are among the hundreds of leads they are pursuing as part of their investigation into Stephen Paddock.
The official, who was briefed by federal law enforcement officials, wasn't authorized to discuss the matter publicly and spoke to The Associated Press on condition of anonymity.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...stitute-days-mass-shooting.html#ixzz4umtk0B31

HI gregg

I chucked when I read the way they worded above !!

He wanted some sex! -- no need to investigate why a dude hires a prostitute

cracked me up
 
I'm just catching up and saw this.
Detoxing from alcohol can be life threatening, a person detoxing would be admitted to the hospital and put on seizure protocols. Their progress needs to be medically supervised. I don't think any doctor today would have their patient detox at home. Not to mention how dangerous the combination of benzos and alcohol is, most doctors do not give benzos to someone they know has a serious drinking problem.

It happens, I assure you.

I'm not saying it's logical. I'm just saying I've seen it.
 
Yep, they would. I work in a jail and that's what we give for alcohol withdrawal. I've also seen prescriptions from personal physicians for Valium for detox, back when I used to work on an inpatient detox unit. Sometimes patients would try to do it at home and end up coming to the hospital instead.

Yes the Valium is used to prevent seizures that can occur with alcohol withdrawal.
In any case, I don't think that was why he was taking the Valium. Wasn't he prescribed that some time ago?
 
HI gregg

I chucked when I read the way they worded above !!

He wanted some sex! -- no need to investigate why a dude hires a prostitute

cracked me up

They are investigating to see if the woman/women can provide any insight into his state of mind, hotel room, etc. Not WHY he hired prostitues. I’m pretty sure that’s obvious. I don’t see anything weird about the way it was stated. JMO
 
-where is this info about MD moving out? Ive had no opportunity to see any news broadcast today. Thank you!


It was linked here a short while ago I cant remember which one !

It was the one about or near the mini van posts
 
Or, the charger was there from previous guest, and overlooked by housekeeping. JMO........DUH........maybe ask previous guest.....

He could've just picked up one of hers. It's so easy to confuse device's charger's and if the the comments in some of news releases are correct, about his deteriorating mental state, it's not that far fetched that he'd toss a charger into the mix, that was for an old device or was possibly his gf's.
 
Yes the Valium is used to prevent seizures that can occur with alcohol withdrawal.
In any case, I don't think that was why he was taking the Valium. Wasn't he prescribed that some time ago?

I remember reading he had it prescribed last year and also recently.

Not for nothing, who cares why he took Valium? Maybe he liked the calming effect. Maybe he had anxiety. Back spasms. To keep dwelling on the Valium script is useless unless there is more valid information of why he was prescribed it. How many posters here have shared their experiences regarding Valium, and how incredibly different have they been?
 
He could've just picked up one of hers. It's so easy to confuse device's charger's and if the the comments in some of news releases are correct, about his deteriorating mental state, it's not that far fetched that he'd toss a charger into the mix, that was for an old device or was possibly his gf's.

Previous posts have links saying they have now matched all of the chargers to SPs devices so it’s a non issue anymore. No I don’t have a link on hand but it’s in the thread. I don’t say that to be rude, but I anticipate someone asking me for a source lol. I’m just trying to do a solid so no one wastes their time thinking about the chargers
 
He could've just picked up one of hers. It's so easy to confuse device's charger's and if the the comments in some of news releases are correct, about his deteriorating mental state, it's not that far fetched that he'd toss a charger into the mix, that was for an old device or was possibly his gf's.

Or a hooker's. Would be interesting to know what prints were on it.
 
Las Vegas casinos are rich and in the future can afford metal detectors and gun screening at the point of entry. I am not assigning blame to them at all for this horrible crime, not at all! They could not expect this, they must feel horrible as we all do. But it is something they are in a unique position to prevent in the future. They can if they choose screen all entrants. There is a trade-off, but offering guests that extra security will be important in the future. Otherwise, many people might rightly decide I will not book a vacation at a resort that isn't screening guests for: guns, criminal records, psychopathy, paranoia, dangerous mental illnesses.
 
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