Found Deceased TX - Sherin Mathews, 3, Richardson, 7 Oct 2017 #8 *Arrests*

[yupikgirl]

They could take a plea deal. No trial then. I don’t see that happening though even if offered.


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[angorwat]

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Can you explain why you would say "if and when this case goes to trial"?
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Possible reference to potential plea deals ??

 

[Rocco]

They could take a plea deal. No trial then. I don’t see that happening though even if offered.


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I don't see it being offered to Wesley. I just hope they don't give Sini some kind of deal to testify against him.

 

[angorwat]

I don't see it being offered to Wesley. I just hope they don't give Sini some kind of deal to testify against him.

But if the scenario of WM taking the fall for an act of SM holds true, then if WM is ready to testify against SM there could be a potential deal with WM.

 

[Rocco]

But if the scenario of WM taking the fall for an act of SM holds true, then if WM is ready to testify against SM there could be a potential deal with WM.

True.

 

[alwaysonmymind]

We want the names of the caseworkers involved in Sherins case and we want their badges. They need to be fired before another innocent child dies because of their incompetence.

Broken arms, broken legs and seriously malnourished. And CPS looked the other way.

Texas CPS has a shameful history of leaving children in harms way to the point of death.

From the link:
For the last six months, Statesman reporters Andrea Ball and Eric Dexheimer analyzed each of those 779 reports and uncovered a series of troubling findings:

Texas is not publicly reporting hundreds of abuse- and neglect-related child deaths each year. Between 2010 and 2014 the Department of Family and Protective Services did not publicly report 655 child abuse-related fatalities, even though the department confirmed that those children had been mistreated prior to their deaths.

Nearly half of the children who died were already on CPS’s radar. Of those 380 fatalities, 144 families — more than a quarter — had been the subject of a CPS investigation at least 3 times. In 12 instances, CPS had seen the family 10 or more times. CPS had contact with one family more than 20 times before the child died.
~snip

Detailed investigative reporting in this series of articles. More recent reports by Andrea Ball can be found online as well.

http://projects.statesman.com/news/cps-missed-signs/


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[Karinna]

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Can you explain why you would say "if and when this case goes to trial"?

I have not seen where a single person thinks there is any "if" about it. I can't see these charges being dropped for any reason.

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I said if & when because we don't know yet when that will be. It could take at least a couple of years to get to Trial. Might there be a plea deal as well?

 

[JaneEyre]

They could take a plea deal. No trial then. I don’t see that happening though even if offered.


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Had not thought of that. However, I don't think in this case that will happen. The community would be incredibly outraged.

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[JaneEyre]

We want the names of the caseworkers involved in Sherins case and we want their badges. They need to be fired before another innocent child dies because of their incompetence.

Broken arms, broken legs and seriously malnourished. And CPS looked the other way.

Texas CPS has a shameful history of leaving children in harms way to the point of death.

From the link:
For the last six months, Statesman reporters Andrea Ball and Eric Dexheimer analyzed each of those 779 reports and uncovered a series of troubling findings:

Texas is not publicly reporting hundreds of abuse- and neglect-related child deaths each year. Between 2010 and 2014 the Department of Family and Protective Services did not publicly report 655 child abuse-related fatalities, even though the department confirmed that those children had been mistreated prior to their deaths.

Nearly half of the children who died were already on CPS’s radar. Of those 380 fatalities, 144 families — more than a quarter — had been the subject of a CPS investigation at least 3 times. In 12 instances, CPS had seen the family 10 or more times. CPS had contact with one family more than 20 times before the child died.
~snip

Detailed investigative reporting in this series of articles. More recent reports by Andrea Ball can be found online as well.

http://projects.statesman.com/news/cps-missed-signs/


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Horrifying.

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[angorwat]

If her parents were the sole care-givers, does this mean Sini or Wesley took parental leave after the adoption to care for her?

It has been mostly confirmed that SM's case manager job with the hospital was home based.

I am very curious to know who the 2nd and 3rd witnesses for the State will be on Dec 5th during the continuation of the hearing.

 

[angorwat]

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And was anyone else deeply disturbed by WM's gaze, in the courtroom? He seemed really "off" but I can't really explain why. Hoping someone else felt the same way and can articulate it better....

Yes, indeed !! He had a bemused look not in line with the seriousness of the situation and the charges he is facing. It was almost as if he had tuned himself out . It also appeared as if he is expecting someone to be present in the courtroom but not seeing them and almost expecting them to pop in any time . All MIO (My Imagination Only)

In fact I fully agree with the sentiments articulated perfectly by another poster :

I will say after watching, and rewatching, and slowing down the video of his "smile" I felt that it was NOT necessarily a smile. I think he attempted to speak to Sini and he realized she wouldn't even glance at him and it quickly turned into anger and ended with what appeared to me as his mouth quivering as he choked back some tears. In that moment, I feel that he likely felt used and rejected and I believe after the next hearing, we will likely have him give story 3.0 which will likely include him flipping on Sini with a new version of the truth. The look on his face IMO was that he felt betrayed in that moment where she didn't look at him, and as a result, I think he will tell a new story that "punishes" her. Hopefully, it will finally be the whole truth.

The single fact that WM voluntarily went and talked to the LE putting himself in the scene when Sherin passed and admitting to moving the body is a red flag saying he is not the main culprit. He is actively trying to draw attention away from SM who possibly actually caused the death of Sherin.

If WM was the cause of death he could have waited and if 'poor' SM also got implicated for the crime , still there would always be evidence to exonerate her if WM caused the death. This over eagerness to implicate himself but without any real evidence (as far as we know) is strange and puzzling.

And as others have already pointed out, WM was the one who had the day job outside the house. SM even though employed is forced to be with the possibly difficult child while working from home. The proximity and the amount of time Sherin shared with SM puts SM to be the person who could cause harm.

 

[georgiajean]

Let me see if I understand this.
The broken elbow was in Sept. 2016 (fell off of couch pushed by sister according to both Sini and Wesley).
In Feb. 2017 she had both shoulders broken (slipped on slide and both parents grabbed her arms, according to Sini).
The x-ray series in Feb. showed healing fractures in her tibia and femur. Dr. could not say when they occurred.
In March, a second x-ray series revealed that those fractures had further healed. Dr said this ruled out Sini's claim the fractures occurred in India as Sini had said.
From: http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dall...sherins-broken-bones-in-cps-hearing/495535415

Is it possible her femur was fractured and she never saw a medical provider? Could Sini have provided home-setting and wrapping of these fractures? Or did they go out of state to get her seen?

 

[Pamela_Brewer]

It has been mostly confirmed that SM's case manager job with the hospital was home based.

I am very curious to know who the 2nd and 3rd witnesses for the State will be on Dec 5th during the continuation of the hearing.

This is an ugly statement, I apologize.
Sini's nursing license is still active with no complaints! As a retired nurse, I want her license REVOKED permanently!
I wonder how long that will take.
https://www.bon.texas.gov/forms/rninq.asp

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[georgiajean]

Hank Whitman, head of Texas CPS, answers questions. transcript is at this link of the full interview.
http://www.wfaa.com/news/cps-commissioner-child-protective-services-failed-sherin-mathews/495948908

He says CPS could have done a better job. He is clearly laying responsibility on them. He is very emotional. He is going to call for more funding, so they can do their job more properly with a separate investigative unit.

When the Doctor at Children's Hospital reported to CPS, Sini Mathews was a nurse employed by the Children's Hospital....

The doctor spoke to CPS TWO TIMES. In March, and then again in July.

 

[georgiajean]

Yes, indeed !! He had a bemused look not in line with the seriousness of the situation and the charges he is facing. It was almost as if he had tuned himself out . It also appeared as if he is expecting someone to be present in the courtroom but not seeing them and almost expecting them to pop in any time . All MIO (My Imagination Only)

In fact I fully agree with the sentiments articulated perfectly by another poster :



The single fact that WM voluntarily went and talked to the LE putting himself in the scene when Sherin passed and admitting to moving the body is a red flag saying he is not the main culprit. He is actively trying to draw attention away from SM who possibly actually caused the death of Sherin.

If WM was the cause of death he could have waited and if 'poor' SM also got implicated for the crime , still there would always be evidence to exonerate her if WM caused the death. This over eagerness to implicate himself but without any real evidence (as far as we know) is strange and puzzling.

And as others have already pointed out, WM was the one who had the day job outside the house. SM even though employed is forced to be with the possibly difficult child while working from home. The proximity and the amount of time Sherin shared with SM puts SM to be the person who could cause harm.

So the person who seemed, from photos and videos, to be the least interested in adopting Sherin, is the person charged to be the home-based care-giver.

I went back and watched the parts of the video where Sini is leaving the courtroom and Wesley tries to connect with her. That moment of vulnerability when he truly smiles at her, and then his tearful sadness after she leaves. That look tells a lot, IMO.

 

[angorwat]

Let me see if I understand this.
The broken elbow was in Sept. 2016 (fell off of couch pushed by sister according to both Sini and Wesley).
In Feb. 2017 she had both shoulders broken (slipped on slide and both parents grabbed her arms, according to Sini).
The x-ray series in Feb. showed healing fractures in her tibia and femur. Dr. could not say when they occurred.
In March, a second x-ray series revealed that those fractures had further healed. Dr said this ruled out Sini's claim the fractures occurred in India as Sini had said.
From: http://www.wfaa.com/news/local/dall...sherins-broken-bones-in-cps-hearing/495535415

Is it possible her femur was fractured and she never saw a medical provider? Could Sini have provided home-setting and wrapping of these fractures? Or did they go out of state to get her seen?

I think the WFAA reporter is causing confusion by saying "further healing of fractures". My understanding is that the doctor has the Xrays for the healing fractures in Feb and the excuses from SM but the Xrays in March showed additional healing fractures proving potential abuse post Feb 2017, IMO.

Is the relevant testimony audible in any video ?

A skeletal survey consisting of 23 X-rays was completed in February of 2017 which showed fractures in Sherin's tibia and femur, both in different stages of healing -- meaning there was more than one episode of violence and trauma. It was difficult for the pediatrician to say when they occurred.


A second skeletal survey in March was completed and it showed further healing of fractures, which would rule out the injuries happening in India prior to adoption -- like Sini had noted to Dr. Dakil.

 

[Karinna]

I think the WFAA reporter is causing confusion by saying "further healing of fractures". My understanding is that the doctor has the Xrays for the healing fractures in Feb and the excuses from SM but the Xrays in March showed additional healing fractures proving potential abuse post Feb 2017, IMO.

Is the relevant testimony audible in any video ?

With that many fractures shouldn't Sherin have been referred to an Orthopedic specialist for further investigation and determination?

 

[georgiajean]

BBM
Can you explain why you would say "if and when this case goes to trial"?

I have not seen where a single person thinks there is any "if" about it. I can't see these charges being dropped for any reason.

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What if WM or SM decided to plead guilty? Would it avoid trial then?
Curious, if WM took the fall for the entire thing, in exchange for Sini's immunity, would the court buy that? I have no idea, just wondering.

 

[rosesfromangels]

With that many fractures shouldn't Sherin have been referred to an Orthopedic specialist for further investigation and determination?

Or arrested on the spot....

 

[georgiajean]

I think the WFAA reporter is causing confusion by saying "further healing of fractures". My understanding is that the doctor has the Xrays for the healing fractures in Feb and the excuses from SM but the Xrays in March showed additional healing fractures proving potential abuse post Feb 2017, IMO.

Is the relevant testimony audible in any video ?

This is what I understand, from what I have read/watched. The x-rays in March showed further healing to the fractures that were found in the x-rays in February. If the fractures had occurred in India, they would have been completely healed, and would not have shown further healing in that month's time. I could be wrong, but that I what I have understood.