CO CO - Kelsey Berreth, 29, Woodland Park, Teller County, 22 Nov 2018 - #17 *ARREST*

[jillianelaine]

Here's a new (I think) thought. If the plan was to give the illusion that KB was alive and well, headed to Idaho-- could the driver have been ignorant enough to use her credit card? It might explain why they never addressed whether or not there had been activity on her card! Maybe there was.

 

[NanZDrew]

Are we related? Because I do this same thing (and I'm a descendant of the Hatfield Clan!)

I'm a genealogist, too. Not a Hatfield that I know of, but the skills od researching records come in handy for sleuthing.

 

[Trudie]

Jmo HLN is just trying to make more of the custody hearing...it is BS imo

Lol. Well, I about broke my leg tripping over my vacuums cord to get to my tablet to advise. I didn’t know (of course) what they’d report. I was deliriously excited to see any news on the case. Ahh, retract cords when finished.

 

[Gardener1850]

I've been thinking the same thing, but then I read one of the links this morning where her family said they didn't live together because he had financial issues related to the price of beef.

I wonder if her parents supported her purchase of her home with the condition that he cannot move in with her, that he has to provide a home for her or at least share 50/50 investment. It's not unusual for parents to take the position that they'll provide for a daughter but not for a man who does not even marry their pregnant daughter.

There's no evidence her parents paid for her house. The way I understand it, she simply transferred her homeloan to their LLC company. The home is in her name only and she pays the taxes and mortgage. And there's no way parents who don't live in the same state as their 29 year old daughter could enforce such a ridiculous "rule" and ask her not to live with her fiance. Besides the fact they are not living there to oversee KB's life-- she is not a teenager and has lived on her own for many years. If anything, I think it's possible PF's mom refused to allow him to move in with KB. PF's mom may have disapproved for moral reasons, may have disliked Kelsey or may have not wanted to lose PF's constant help on the ranch. PF's mom owns her property and could have threatened to cut PF out of her will if he moved in with KB. He has never lived out on his own, so perhaps he never had the backbone to tell his mom he was going to live with who he wanted, marry who he wanted and let KB pay for their home if he wanted to (although I suspect it also made him angry that KB could afford a home and he could not). I see the possibility PF felt he had to choose between KB and his mom. Maybe he didn't know how to break it off with KB because they had a baby and would always still see each other. MOO.

 

[PommyMommy]

PhotoJuice News5 on Twitter
Patrick Frazee and Cheryl Berreth, Kelsey's mom, are both in the courtroom in Teller County for a custody hearing for Frazee's 1 year old daughter.

 

[bestill]

PhotoJuice News5 on Twitter
Patrick Frazee and Cheryl Berreth, Kelsey's mom, are both in the courtroom in Teller County for a custody hearing for Frazee's 1 year old daughter.

FOX News reporting that the hearing was scheduled before Kelsey went missing. Hope today clears this up!

 

[GHgal]

KKTV 11 News

Video of him walking to court

 

[bestill]

Now I'm wondering , did he file for custody right after Kelsey went missing? That may explain the discrepancy with the filing reports.

 

[SoVeryMe]

KKTV 11 News

Video of him walking to court

I hope he was humiliated.

 

[PommyMommy]

Daniela Leon on Twitter
Folks have been reaching out saying stations are reporting the custody hearing involving Patrick Frazee and Kelsey Berreth is not on the docket. We checked and it still appears to be there and is scheduled for 1:00 p.m. Kelsey Berreth’s name no longer appears on it.

 

[NanZDrew]

Maybe less camera surveillance in the smaller town. Maybe the airport as a red herring to Kelsey possible flying there somehow, since her vehicles were left at home. jmo, of course. Speculating along with you.

Well, and there were also those putting out the drug addict/mental health stories and suggesting the mental health hospital in that area be checked.

 

[bestill]

I hope he was humiliated.

Glad he was shackled and in prison garb and had to walk through the crowd instead of being ushered in in privacy.

 

[TexLil]

KKTV 11 News

Video of him walking to court

Wow. He's looking pretty rough. MOO

Do we think a decision will be made today for temporary or permanent custody? And would the choice be between PF's mom and KB's parents?

 

[Warwick7]

PhotoJuice News5 on Twitter
Patrick Frazee and Cheryl Berreth, Kelsey's mom, are both in the courtroom in Teller County for a custody hearing for Frazee's 1 year old daughter.

He looks terrable.....

 

[SoVeryMe]

Glad he was shackled and in prison garb and had to walk through the crowd instead of being ushered in in privacy.

Exactly!!! I watched it a few times just for the satisfaction of seeing him like that. Sure isn’t so powerful now is he?! Jerk.

 

[jillianelaine]

If one wanted to give the illusion that someone was alive, one MIGHT use their credit card--at a location which seemed unlikely to have cameras. A little detective work may have unveiled far more. This might explain why "credit card activity" was not discussed. And if you're ignorant enough to aide in a murder, you're probably dumb enough to risk your freedom over a tank of gas.

 

[ttg1]

My guess all along has been that the perpetrator had business in the area and took the opportunity to dispose of evidence while conducting business nearby. MOO.

I think that a 3rd party is from the Twin Falls area and just drove as far as they could while knowing how to get back home. Methinks that this party is cooperating with LE and will have a sweet deal to make the accomplice to murder or cover up charge have less or minimal prison time. I don't think the KB connection to Idaho is relevant to this case. I think PF has a connection.

 

[bestill]

Could a Judge request to know what proof the state has that she's not alive? Seems one would want to know that before making a custody arrangement hearing.

 

[heli]

KKTV says they are waiting to see if this is just a formality when a child is taken from a home or if it was already set into motion before KB disappearance.

 

[PrairieWind]

Wow. He's looking pretty rough. MOO

Do we think a decision will be made today for temporary or permanent custody? And would the choice be between PF's mom and KB's parents?

I would think a temporary decision will be made today. The choices are PF's mom, KB's mom, and remaining in custody of the state.

 

[SoVeryMe]

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Yes and I think it’s assumed custody will go to KB’s family since they’ve had her all this time. I wonder if PF’s family will be there.