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Interesting. Wasn’t DS Lambert the colleague Jubes was said to have had a barney with last year?Inquest into the disappearance and suspected death of William Tyrrell.
Party name(s) Sen. Sgt Criag Lambert
Date 25 March 2019
Case No 2015/ 00029163
Hearing - NSW Coroners Court
Deputy H Grahame
Same info for 26 March 2019
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Interesting. Wasn’t DS Lambert the colleague Jubes was said to have had a barney with last year?
I think so Bo...........
Yes, the OIC of the investigation AFAIK. I presumed this would have been Jubes, seeing as he was the lead detective for SFR.Ditto.
So could it be that back in 2015 Det Sgt Lambert was the one who sent the initial suspected death referral to the coroner? No the lead would have to do that wouldn't they?
Yes, the OIC of the investigation AFAIK. I presumed this would have been Jubes, seeing as he was the lead detective for SFR.
Interesting. Wasn’t DS Lambert the colleague Jubes was said to have had a barney with last year?
Ditto.
So could it be that back in 2015 Det Sgt Lambert was the one who sent the initial suspected death referral to the coroner? No the lead would have to do that wouldn't they?
Yes, the OIC of the investigation AFAIK. I presumed this would have been Jubes, seeing as he was the lead detective for SFR.
I was also surprised seeing a name other than David Laidlaw whom we were just informed would be "taking control of ... the crucial brief of evidence ahead of the Coronial inquest into his disappearance later this month", so I looked back and found an article from when that altercation occurred in August. I remember that the wording was confusing (for me at least) at the time, I wasn't sure if it was more inept reporting, or if GJ had been already removed from heading up the case at the time the article was written, or what.
"The two lead homicide detectives on the William Tyrrell case are set to undertake conflict resolution training after a heated argument got out of hand.
The officer-in-charge of the case, Detective Sergeant Craig Lambert and Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin became involved in an altercation."
William Tyrrell clash: Lead detectives 'come to blows' during meeting about missing toddler | Daily Mail Online
Do we presume that the 'acting assistant commissioner' does not know what he's talking about then? (He is quoted below.)After reading this from the piece shared earlier
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I imagine it would be an enormous ask for David Laidlaw to be across the case in minute detail and perhaps this is the reason Craig Lambert is instead assisting counsel at the inquest?
Good to see you, SA.Wow. Presumably they will still be able to use Jubes as a witness at the inquest.
This is a tough call for William's inquest. The timing is pretty terrible .....
We will probably have to wait for Jube's after-retirement-autobiography to find out what this is all about.
Ditto xGood to see you, SA.
Yet DCI Jubelin (along with a female colleague) attended the Directions Hearing in December last year. AFAIK he was the OIC of the investigation at that time.I was also surprised seeing a name other than David Laidlaw whom we were just informed would be "taking control of ... the crucial brief of evidence ahead of the Coronial inquest into his disappearance later this month", so I looked back and found an article from when that altercation occurred in August. I remember that the wording was confusing (for me at least) at the time, I wasn't sure if it was more inept reporting, or if GJ had been already removed from heading up the case at the time the article was written, or what.
"The two lead homicide detectives on the William Tyrrell case are set to undertake conflict resolution training after a heated argument got out of hand.
The officer-in-charge of the case, Detective Sergeant Craig Lambert and Detective Chief Inspector Gary Jubelin became involved in an altercation."
William Tyrrell clash: Lead detectives 'come to blows' during meeting about missing toddler | Daily Mail Online
Yet DCI Jubelin (along with a female colleague) attended the Directions Hearing in December last year. AFAIK he was the OIC of the investigation at that time.
That could very well be possible and would make sense timing-wise, with the 'directions hearing' having taken place in December, and GJ's matters bein forwarded to Professional standards 'early this year'. I would assume anyone called to answer questions at the inquest would be given 'disclosure' ahead of time, so perhaps that is what the hubbub about PS getting a lawyer in place was about?Alternatively to this being a purely internal matter: I was thinking about the timing in relation to the inquest; would there have been prior discovery to the representatives of BS and PS of the evidence proposed to be presented? Suppose one of the lawyers looked over the evidence and noticed something obtained in a way that arguably should have required a warrant, but that formality was skipped. He might wish to challenge the use of the evidence at inquest, and the client might also decide to lodge a complaint against the officer. For example, say police examined someone's phone and when it was given back, it had a 'bug' in place. Jubelin said they were doing covert operations.
A complaint from a suspect obviously wouldn't also be a complaint about staff management issues. Possibly long-aggrieved staff, becoming aware of the suspect's complaint, saw it as an opportunity to make their own.
Inquest into the disappearance and suspected death of William Tyrrell.
Party name(s) Sen. Sgt Criag Lambert
Date 25 March 2019
Case No 2015/ 00029163
Hearing - NSW Coroners Court
Deputy H Grahame
Same info for 26 March 2019
Search NSW Court Lists | NSW Online Registry