Found Deceased IN - Abigail (Abby) Williams, 13, & Liberty (Libby) German, 14, The Delphi Murders 13 Feb 2017 #96

[Howcanppldosuch]

Here is an interesting vid on the eye witness sketch process. Note the artist says the sketch isn’t for the general public but rather for a friend or family member to recognize the subject

 

[margarita25]

( Re: the FBI profilers named above in the synopsis by @Choochoobella , I’m trying to remember where I’ve heard Jim Clemente’s name before.

A cursory search so far has revealed this:

WS:
The Case of JonBenet Ramsey-CBS Sept. 18 # 3

WS:
John and Burke on 911 Call. Lin Wood, John Ramsey, LIED!!!!!

ETA: CrimeCon!
Jim Clemente (@JimClemente) on Twitter

CrimeCon 2017 - Indianapolis

Jim Clemente's schedule for CrimeCon 2018

“Jim Clemente
XG
Jim Clemente is a retired FBI Supervisory Special Agent/Profiler and former New York City Prosecutor. During his 22-year career with the FBI, he has investigated cases from Bank Robberies to Serial Killers. He is now a Writer/Co-Producer for Criminal Minds, as well as a Technical Advisor on Quantico, Blind Spot, Secrets & Lies, and Sleepy Hollow.
He executive produces and is an on-air talent for several Documentary Television Series productions including: The Case Of: JonBenet Ramsey on CBS, Killer Profile on LMN, Missing Dial, on NatGeo, and Finding Benjamin.
Clemente authored his first novel, Without Consent, based on his true story about tracking down and locking up the Coach/Camp Director who victimized him as a teen. Jim is also the host of the successful podcasts: Real Crime Profile, Locked Up Abroad, nd Best Case/Worst Case.)

—
It seems he appears in this article which also mentions Websleuths!

“In an eye-opening account for the New York Post, writer Maureen Callahan described how Jim Clemente, a former FBI agent and a writer for Criminal Minds told attendees that the FBI needed the help of amateur sleuths like themselves.
One of the most poplar websites for such amateur detectives is Websleuths.com. It focusses on unsolved cases, trials and missing persons. Separate forums exist on the website for many high profile unsolved homicides, like the Long Island serial killings of sex workers whose bodies were found at Gilgo Beach in Suffolk County. It is said that members of law enforcement agencies often read the discussions on the site which has more than 135,000 registered members.“

Amateur Online Sleuths: How They Work & Do They Help Solve Crimes? - JOANNA ELM, Author, Journalist, Attorney

 

[wary]

Bringing this post over from the last thread, thank you Choochoobella:

(It seems this podcast discussion has been approved as I alerted on all posts re: podcasts.)

Choochoobella
Well-Known Member
“Best Case Worst Case Delphi

Snipped for focus:

Post #8 of this thread—

*Before discussing podcasts, etc please check with a moderator, an admin or Tricia to see if it is approved to be posted here. (note: the the Podcast Best case Worst Case - a discussion between three former FBI agents is fine to discuss)

 

[Swayze]

they want him to tell someone that he thinks he is being framed

This is a very interesting statement! I like it!

 

[x_files]

Hounding strangers is not OK. Even if someone is the perp, unless he is arrested, in the eyes of law, he is innocent.

It's also dangerous to do so!

 

[Joolz1975]

If anybody discovers a link for the show that was on last night could they link it please?

I couldn't watch it at the time and assumed it would be on you tube by now but nothing!

 

[CSIDreamer]

The thread is moving fast so I will post my question on a MSM Source again.

You can PM an admin or report your post and add the question to the report as well.

 

[ab01]

“Officials haven’t ruled out the possibility that more than one person is involved.”

Cops say Ind. teen murder victim recorded suspect; chilling audio released

(Of course, maybe that has changed...)

JMO

I believe this was very early on IIRC

They were leaving their options open as they should have

I think they have made various statements since then to indicate that they are looking for one sole perp

JMO

 

[Yellow Rose]

Two Websleuths Solved Case

Members of the amateur investigation site Websleuths cracked the 2009 murder of Florida lottery winner Abraham Shakespeare wide open.
Winning the lottery can sometimes put a target on your back.
Justin Sullivan/Getty Images
Urban legend has it that winning the lottery — any lottery — comes with a curse. When you come into some unexpected money and the people around you get greedy, a curse might be the least of your problems.

After a Florida man named Abraham Shakespeare was mysteriously murdered following a $17 million lottery win, members of Websleuths began investigating. Local police had suspected Shakespeare's financial adviser, Dorice "Dee Dee" Moore. But they didn't have enough evidence.

When Websleuths users began posting about the case, Moore felt compelled to defend her reputation on the site. She logged in anonymously to defend herself — not knowing about IP logging. Websleuths site co-owner Tricia Griffith turned that IP data over to the police — and Moore was eventually convicted and sentenced to life in prison.

When a human head turned up in a bucket full of hardened concrete, it took web sleuth Ellen Leach to put the puzzle pieces in place and help bring a murderer to justice.
Someone put a human head in a bucket of cement.
Shutterstock
In 2001, a retired trucker named Ronald Telfer had noticed a seemingly abandoned plastic bucket at a Missouri truck stop. At the time, he didn't investigate further.

When Telfer came back a month later and the bucket was still there, he decided to check it out. He just wanted the bucket to feed his pigs back home — so he dumped out what he thought were animal remains trapped in a block of hardened concrete. It wasn't until months afterward that he came back and found what it really was: a human head.

The rest of the story is intricate, bizarre, and profoundly sad. Doug DeBruin violently murdered and dismembered his best friend Gregory May for his collection of valuable Civil War memorabilia — and might have gotten away with it if it wasn't for the steadfast efforts of web sleuth Ellen Leach, who identified the skull by seeing May's photo on a missing person's site, according to The Washington Times.

Thanks to her, DeBruin was eventually convicted and sentenced to life without the possibility of parole.

 

[Tillicum]

( Re: the FBI profilers named above in the synopsis by @Choochoobella , I’m trying to remember where I’ve heard Jim Clemente’s name before.

A cursory search so far has revealed this:

The Case of JonBenet Ramsey-CBS Sept. 18 # 3

John and Burke on 911 Call. Lin Wood, John Ramsey, LIED!!!!!

ETA: CrimeCon!
Jim Clemente (@JimClemente) on Twitter

CrimeCon 2017 - Indianapolis

Jim Clemente's schedule for CrimeCon 2018

“Jim Clemente
XG
Jim Clemente is a retired FBI Supervisory Special Agent/Profiler and former New York City Prosecutor. During his 22-year career with the FBI, he has investigated cases from Bank Robberies to Serial Killers. He is now a Writer/Co-Producer for Criminal Minds, as well as a Technical Advisor on Quantico, Blind Spot, Secrets & Lies, and Sleepy Hollow.
He executive produces and is an on-air talent for several Documentary Television Series productions including: The Case Of: JonBenet Ramsey on CBS, Killer Profile on LMN, Missing Dial, on NatGeo, and Finding Benjamin.
Clemente authored his first novel, Without Consent, based on his true story about tracking down and locking up the Coach/Camp Director who victimized him as a teen. Jim is also the host of the successful podcasts: Real Crime Profile, Locked Up Abroad, nd Best Case/Worst Case.)

—
It seems he appears in this article which also mentions Websleuths!

“In an eye-opening account for the New York Post, writer Maureen Callahan described how Jim Clemente, a former FBI agent and a writer for Criminal Minds told attendees that the FBI needed the help of amateur sleuths like themselves.
One of the most poplar websites for such amateur detectives is Websleuths.com. It focusses on unsolved cases, trials and missing persons. Separate forums exist on the website for many high profile unsolved homicides, like the Long Island serial killings of sex workers whose bodies were found at Gilgo Beach in Suffolk County. It is said that members of law enforcement agencies often read the discussions on the site which has more than 135,000 registered members.“

Amateur Online Sleuths: How They Work & Do They Help Solve Crimes? - JOANNA ELM, Author, Journalist, Attorney

Ha! I knew it! They've probably been reading page 10 on our scanner thread too

 

[thx4_medic_Babby]

After watching BG’s gait, I wonder why he was walking on the right side of the bridge, and then suddenly (appears) veers to the left?

 

[AuctionGal]

Delphi murders: Sheriff pleads, stop posting side-by-side photos of suspects and new sketch
The Carroll County Sheriff’s Office posted this Tuesday morning on Facebook:

“Please STOP posting side-by-side pictures of people you think did this. You are ruining innocent people’s lives. Before posting a side by side, imagine that is your son, brother, or father.

“If you have a tip, we have given you the proper way to report it.

“abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or 844-459-5786. “

 

[MsBetsy]

“Officials haven’t ruled out the possibility that more than one person is involved.”

Cops say Ind. teen murder victim recorded suspect; chilling audio released

(Of course, maybe that has changed...)

JMO

I think that was from February 2017.
Much has changed since then. Imo

 

[crhedBngr]

Good Morning, Everyone.

Per @cody22 's request for all of you:



Justice for Abby and Libby.

(Image purchased with license from Big Stock Photos.)

 

[carbuff]

I don't know. The scratchy part has always been there from what I recall.

But what I don't believe is that there is some secret, cryptic sound or voices to decipher in that scratchiness that LE wants us to decipher. It's not a game of Clue or whatever. You know what I mean?

It reminds me of playing Beatles albums backwards to hear if Paul is dead.

 

[janesmith787]

Yet LE has said over and over again that this impedes their investigation.
How can every theory on the internet be right? There are so many, yet they don't have the evidence LE has.
Better to let them do their job.
If the people on the internet are so good at solving crimes, then maybe they should become FBI agents or work in some kind of capacity to help catch criminals that is legitimate. Imo

Yes, people on the internet can help, but if you look on social media you'll see people have thrown out names and ran INNOCENT people's names through the mud. Same thing happened with the Missy Bevers case. While there are some very wise people (and use common sense) there are also some who just want to throw out info. and hope it sticks. JMO

ETA: With legitimate tips, especially if they're local.

 

[ocgrad]

After watching BG’s gait, I wonder why he was walking on the right side of the bridge, and then suddenly (appears) veers to the left?

There was a missing or badly rotted board he was avoiding.

 

[cody22]

Good Morning, Everyone.

Per @cody22 's request for all of you:

View attachment 181916

Justice for Abby and Libby.

(Image purchased with license from Big Stock Photos.)

Thank you !......................moo

 

[carbuff]

A young perp killing about power makes me think we have a beginning serial on our hands. iirc a policeman said he needs to be caught before he does it again.

Does anyone else think this is the beginning of a serial killer?
Here is an article on serials and power I found interesting
Serial Homicide for Power and Control

Yes.

If indeed this is the first time he's killed. I kind of think it wasn't his first rodeo.

 

[thx4_medic_Babby]

There was a missing or badly rotted board he was avoiding.

This was my first thought, but then he appears to step with his left foot on the board I thought he was avoiding. You can also possibly see his right foot is turning left.

Maybe I need more coffee and this doesn’t matter to begin with. Haha.