Kyshoegal
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@ RAISINISBACK, whoa. That is a very interesting point! Love that. Are birth certificates public record? I don't think there is anyway he is not on the birth certificate and walk with full custody. But I won't say it's impossible, not up there. I'm not sure how he got custody in a county he doesn't reside in because most states require custody be heard in the county of the child's residence. The only thing in this theory I may differ on is that I don't think Jake wanted joint custody. I don't think he was willing to settle for that, I think he wanted SW full time and away from Hanna. Stay with me for a min, IMO it's more of a pride or ownership type of thing with them. Almost cavemanish if I may. I do think Jake loved her and when she left I think he was deeply hurt, the kind some don't get over. And once he had to start seeing Hanna and his daughter with other men (not just man) that was it. He had to come to terms that she was not coming back and another man may be raising his daughter. That is a hard pill to swallow.It would and may very well be part of the evidence against the W4's.
At this point we don't know. But we do know that DeWine said custody and control of the children was the motive and that this is the most bizarre case he has ever seen.
We have all been here for months racking our brains for a reason why he wouldn't just take Hannah to court and try for custody or at least joint custody. Even if they planned a move to Alaska, if Jake had joint custody he could have tried for six months in AK with him and six months in OH with Hannah. There is a reason why he didn't do that.
Hannah wasn't growing MJ, her dad was. Her dad wasn't the one asking for custody.
Jake wasn't stealing boots or waving guns at people, his dad was. His dad wasn't the one asking for custody.
So this custody thing had to be something between Jake and Hannah.
These days joint custody is almost automatic. So there has to be a very good reason Jake thought he would not even get joint custody, so resorted to murder. Don't forget, the entire W family thought murder was the only solution. Not just the murder of Hannah. The murder of her entire family. Every single person who might be able to come back and get custody of SW if Hannah was dead even right down to a 16 year old boy who was the child's uncle.
Someone on here pointed out people disappear in those mountains all the time. We have all seen evidence of that with all the dead bodies turning up.
So why not just make Hannah disappear? Why would getting rid of just Hannah not solve the custody problem? Why did Jake drag baby pics and other evidence to a custody hearing to prove he was SW's father? I have never heard of any bio father dragging baby pics to court to prove he was the child's father. Why would he think he had to prove he was SW's father? After all her last name was Wagner and we assume his name was on her birth certificate as her father. So why would he have to prove he was with baby pics ect?
Unless a DNA test was done after they split in 2015 and it came back that Jake was not SW's bio father. At that point Jake could not have even gotten legal visitation rights let alone custody. At that point the only solution would have been if Hannah and every single one of her close relatives was dead. Even Hazel if she had married Frankie would have had a better chance to get full custody of SW than Jake who was not even related to the child.
It's just a theory, but it fits.
JMO
And it's not as simple as just taking out Hanna. DR and CRSr (if they are like most parents) will clear the earth for their child and had she come up missing they would have fought him to their death for SW, not to mention blamed him for her disappearance. So they had to go as well. As far as Frankie and Hannah G. I think they knew too much, about whatever this issue between Jake & Hanna was and they knew if the family took out CR, DR and HR..Frankie and Hannah G would again point to them, so they were collateral damage to some extent. I feel CRJr was as well. Not sure, maybe JW just didn't like him or they had issues. But he was in the trailer and likely their most nights so.
As far as the baby pics, I'm not sure that was to convince anyone, as much as it was to say "see how much time I spend with her, and how happy she is with me? See what a great father I am" I will agree it's insane. Anyway you explain it. 8 people..gone