Gunslinging Granny
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The victim is Shaylie Madden.Should we be sleuthing victims of this crime?
News articles have stated Krista's husband is a cardio-thoracic surgeon.
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The victim is Shaylie Madden.Should we be sleuthing victims of this crime?
The victim is Shaylie Madden.
News articles have stated Krista's husband is a cardio-thoracic surgeon.
I am most intimately aware of mental health issues, much more than I would prefer to discuss. I know I sound like a hard nosed person lacking in all empathy, but truly I am not. I just do not think this person deserves any special treatment or sympathy based on the facts of the case. If she were psychotic to the point where she did not understand the wrongness of her actions, or was compelled but willing to suffer the consequences, my thoughts would be very different. But she went through an elaborate plan to carry out the murder of a child, and then tried her best not just to prevent people from finding her child, but also to convince everyone that someone else had done this to her - to Krista, she played the victim here.
To top it off, we have people fawning all over her because she is a woman of privilege. I shudder to think what the tone of this discussion would be if she was indigent, or god help her, black, perhaps.
Thank you for joining this thread. I have the greatest respect for Psychiatric Mental Health NPs.I'm agreeing with all of Granny's recent posts (I've missed some pages in the middle of the thread). In all my years working with depressed and psychotic patients as a psychiatric NP, I have never seen a person with psychosis present with such organized thought processes.
She has something going on, but based on the information that we have I don't believe that it's any type of psychosis (postpartum or otherwise). Someone in a psychotic state such as Andrea Yates is basically unable to even take care of basic daily life skills (like personal hygiene or eating). Krista's planning and execution of this event requires extremely sophisticated executive functioning skills.
Interestingly I lived in the area where the Yates incident occurred and sometimes admitted people to the hospital where she ended up for awhile. My heart broke for the psychiatrist who treated her and probably didn't have the whole story about how severe her symptoms were at home. I also survived having a colicky baby and didn't sleep more than a few hours at a time for about a year. I was depressed, irritable, and forgetful (I remember sobbing at 9 am, wondering how I was going to make it through the day) but luckily had a good support system, was relatively functional on medication, and never experienced any psychotic symptoms.
It's going to be very interesting what happens in this case. My heart goes out to her entire family. They must be devastated.
Maybe posters missed the fact that Krista Madden turned off her location service on her iPhone. The friend that called 911 had used this before in Find a Friend app to locate Krista, but that day it strangely wasn't on.
Then Krista drove 25 miles to a very rural area all the while texting her friend saying she had been kidnapped by two people and thrown into the trunk of a car.
She then tossed her baby down a very rural ravine where it never should have been found.
She proceeded to drive 2 miles away and hide her car down a gated private property road. She had to get out of her car to lift the road gate to enter this desolate, private property road.
After abandoning her well-hidden car, she walked or ran to a rural highway and continued with the "It's not my fault, I was kidnapped" lie.
During the next 3 hours, she did not provide information about the location of her baby to LE. Only by the Grace of God was Shaylie found.
Premeditation and well-organized, rational thoughts to hide a serious crime (and blame others) are not symptoms of postpartum depression and psychosis. By definition, psychosis is a condition of disorganized, irrational thoughts.
Police previously said the report of the kidnapping originated from Dearborn Street, less than a half-mile from Madden's listed residence.
Records obtained by the Citizen Times show relatives of Madden live on Dearborn.
911 call on faked kidnapping: 'Either way there is a 7-week-old little infant in trouble'
I’m saving this statement here because it might be significant. I wonder if Krista had an altercation with these relatives before she pretended to be kidnapped near their home. Perhaps these relatives had a special attachment to Shaylie.