Found Deceased UK - Libby Squire, 21, last seen outside Welly club, Hull, 31 Jan 2019 #16 *ARREST*

[cybervampira]

Missing woman Libby Squire | Humberside Police

Can you help find missing Libby Squire (21) last seen getting into a taxi outside Welly club in Hull at around 11pm last night?

She is 5ft 7ins tall with shoulder length brown hair and was wearing a black long sleeved top, leather jacket and black denim skirt with lace.

If you have seen her please call 101 quoting log 29 of 01/02/19.



Humberside Police

Woman, 21, missing after last being seen getting into taxi on night out

Huge search for missing Libby Squire continues

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[CoverMeCagney]

Just bringing this forward from thread #2

Timeline:

11:18pm Libby turned away from Welly,
11:22pm Libby put in taxi
11:29 Taxi drops her near home on Wellesley Av. Neighbours saw her stumbling in street.
11:40 - 11:45 caught on CCTV on bench. Around this time grey beard man stopped to offer assistance, she declined, police have cleared him
11:49ish PR? car arrives on Haworth Street (per ITV CCTV)
12:04-12:06 ish man smoking (CCTV)
12:08 passenger door opens and someone/something is on passenger seat (CCTV)
12:09 car drives away (CCTV)
12:09 police say Libby had left the bench by now
12:19 the same car (tbc) seen Newland Av (per Sun CCTV)
12:15-12:30ish dark and eerie screams coming from park for 15 minutes
12:30ish man seen running from park
12:30ish scream and banging gate heard from Heathcote St near Libbys house.

 

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[bluesntwos]

Not sure where this guy in spidercam wearing pointy boots has come from, we've had wellies and trainers of varying descriptions from memory, perhaps i have a different version of spidercam to poster? i agree with newthoughts as to wether it is or isnt PR in spidercam LE never asked person/persons in vid to come forward, neither did they for running man in park (surely a star witness if its not PR) and again heathcote/wellesley screams no plea for them to come forward. is this not a bit odd or did LE already know this could have been PR, LIBBY AND ACCOMPLICE. jmo.

 

[JosieJo]

Which of those things leads you to feel accomplice? I really struggle with the accomplice thing
Any of the above could have involved him alone

 

[Newthoughts]

Which of those things leads you to feel accomplice? I really struggle with the accomplice thing
Any of the above could have involved him alone

LE's last update mentioned they were using search experts. That could just imply they were looking for premeditation by examining websites he'd looked at - eg tide times, houses for let, violent *advertiser censored*. Or it could perhaps imply examining emails and texts?

The Heatcote screams witness did refer to male voices - plural though that is easy to mishear.

Regarding the Heathcote screams - if it was relevant and there was more than 1 male voice how would they know where to go? Without wanting to place much store by the sisters interview - the putting her address in sat nav puzzled me. Could he have been sending her address to someone else.

 

[JosieJo]

LE's last update mentioned they were using search experts. That could just imply they were looking for premeditation by examining websites he'd looked at - eg tide times, houses for let, violent *advertiser censored*. Or it could perhaps imply examining emails and texts?

The Heatcote screams witness did refer to male voices - plural though that is easy to mishear.

Regarding the Heathcote screams - if it was relevant and there was more than 1 male voice how would they know where to go? Without wanting to place much store by the sisters interview - the putting her address in sat nav puzzled me. Could he have been sending her address to someone else.

I thought the heathcote screams only referred to "muffled" voices rather than specifically Male? So could have been PR and Libby ?

I would have thought the putting in satnav was just PR finding her address ..or more likely pretending to be professional or helpful...I'm not sure how him putting her address in his own satnav helps the accomplice theory

 

[JosieJo]

I feel an accomplice is possible only in a way that absolutely anything is possible.. there has not been anything from LE or press to positively endorce the possibility..for example...no photo fits or requests to identify another person
They have never took anyone else in for questioning etc ..of course things could be going on behind the scenes..but until that is released if ever so nothing positively endorce the fact

 

[Newthoughts]

I thought the heathcote screams only referred to "muffled" voices rather than specifically Male? So could have been PR and Libby ?

I would have thought the putting in satnav was just PR finding her address ..or more likely pretending to be professional or helpful...I'm not sure how him putting her address in his own satnav helps the accomplice theory

He would have known her road given he's been charged with a crime there so I'm trying to why work out why it came up in MSM interview with his sister. All I could think of was him texting it to someone rather than putting it in sat nav. That does fall down in Spidercam showing him driving off quickly - so anything he did would have to have happened between the bench and him getting back to car. Also LE would know the difference between sat nav and text.

But LE using search experts so clearly his usage of IT is of interest. Does anyone with tech knowledge know if putting stuff into a sat nav or Google maps could be transmitted to someone else?

 

[JosieJo]

I agree he would have known the street imo if he did use a satnav it would to pretend to be a taxi or at least to look trustworthy

imo looking into his IT and communication in depth would be standard accomplice or not

 

[Newthoughts]

I feel an accomplice is possible only in a way that absolutely anything is possible.. there has not been anything from LE or press to positively endorce the possibility..for example...no photo fits or requests to identify another person
They have never took anyone else in for questioning etc ..of course things could be going on behind the scenes..but until that is released if ever so nothing positively endorce the fact

My main reasons for wondering if he had an accomplice rests on:

The amount of time it took to find Libby - despite a massive police search of the river - plus doubts about whether she could have got to where she was found from where LE were searching.

The fact LE are still working on it and have said it is complex when it looks straightforward. If Libby went into the water that night in the vicinity of the park which they seem to search a lot, given just what we knew, they have a good circumstantial case IMO

Using search experts. That could be to prove premeditation. Or it could be to look at a communication trail.

But those are just opinions.

 

[Redout]

Not sure where this guy in spidercam wearing pointy boots has come from, we've had wellies and trainers of varying descriptions from memory, perhaps i have a different version of spidercam to poster?

The guy in the spidercam video (here below) at the 30 second mark is wearing pointy boots with almost no sole.

They are very distinctive.

Boxer or wrestler boots are appropriate. Wellies are not pointy like that.

Boxers and wrestlers do their stuff on canvas (the boxing ring) or mats (wrestlers) respectively, and I guess that both boxers and wrestlers are unlikely to wear their boots outside of those places, but MMA boots, are almost the same and are worn on the wooden floored octagon, which make them more outdoor friendly.

mma boots - Google Search

If I were a prosecutor then I would argue that the wearing of such boots outside of the octagon suggests premeditation - they are boots for combative situations: fighting, controlling, and rape.

 

[Newthoughts]

The guy in the spidercam video (here below) at the 30 second mark is wearing pointy boots with almost no sole.

They are very distinctive.

Boxer or wrestler boots are appropriate. Wellies are not pointy like that.

Boxers and wrestlers do their stuff on canvas (the boxing ring) or mats (wrestlers) respectively, and I guess that both boxers and wrestlers are unlikely to wear their boots outside of those places, but MMA boots, are almost the same and are worn on the wooden floored octagon, which make them more outdoor friendly.

mma boots - Google Search

If I were a prosecutor then I would argue that the wearing of such boots outside of the octagon suggests premeditation - they are boots for combative situations: fighting, controlling, and rape.

If PR had any sense he'll have destroyed whatever he was wearing that night

However LE have stated that the court case for the 13 unrelated charges will include 90 witnesses and CCTV. It will be interesting to see if any of those show similar attire.

 

[LucyRocket]

I wish we could have *ARREST* taken off the title, so that we know when a charge is made for THIS crime.

 

[Vermont24]

I'm still checking in every now and then, though it doesn't feel like there's much to discuss at the moment without going in circles.

PR's next hearing to review the case before trial is coming up on June 18th.

 

[EricaAmbrose1]

I'm still checking in every now and then, though it doesn't feel like there's much to discuss at the moment without going in circles.

PR's next hearing to review the case before trial is coming up on June 18th.[/QUOTE Good reminder @Vernon24

 

[EricaAmbrose1]

Drone crashed into Barmston Drain in Libby Squire search

 

[Miss_French]

LE's last update mentioned they were using search experts. That could just imply they were looking for premeditation by examining websites he'd looked at - eg tide times, houses for let, violent *advertiser censored*. Or it could perhaps imply examining emails and texts?

The term search specialists usually means those trained to carry out physical (as opposed to online) searches of people, buildings, vehicles, sometimes also as dog handlers.