Knowing our justice system, 2-5 years for neglect.
Oh dear god no!
Knowing our justice system, 2-5 years for neglect.
If their mother ever snaps too (if she ever cared), she will be suicidal. People withdrawing from drugs can be evil...I hope they have a suicide vest ready and guards ready to do the rounds. This is horrible. Idk what theyd charge her with total disregard for human life, she may as well have walked them down to the water, tossed them in & walked away, the way this is unfolding.
I'm having a hard time understanding why the aunt didn't have them. If they were placed in her custody, she knew her sister would not or could not care for them. Where was everybody? Im just like wtf, everybody failed these children.
What's your basis for this knowledge, Oklahoma state law?Knowing our justice system, 2-5 years for neglect.
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UPDATE- @FOX23SaraWhaley has learned from investigators the children went through an opening in the fence to then walk down a set of stairs to the water at Mingo Creek. Investigators are still looking for Miracle and Tony’s bodies. Heartbreaking.
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(photo of fence and stairs to creek/retention enclosed)
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EY-8vwvX0AEPZLj?format=jpg&name=mediumHow wide and deep is this creek? When I picture a creek it is small and not fast flowing. If they ended up in the water, how far could they have travelled? Is it deep enough that they would sink at first?
The law is a bit vague. Donisha Williams is currently charged with Child Neglect - the statute isn't quoted in the online inmate search, it just says Child Neglect AFCF:What's your basis for this knowledge, Oklahoma state law?
Did I read she had a suspended sentence as well?The law is a bit vague. Donisha Williams is currently charged with Child Neglect - the statute isn't quoted in the online inmate search, it just says Child Neglect AFCF:
Index - Inmate Information Center
Looking at the statutes I found:
21 OK Stat § 21-843.5 (2016)
C. Any parent or other person who shall willfully or maliciously engage in child neglect shall, upon conviction, be punished by imprisonment in the custody of the Department of Corrections not exceeding life imprisonment, or by imprisonment in a county jail not exceeding one (1) year, or by a fine of not less than Five Hundred Dollars ($500.00) nor more than Five Thousand Dollars ($5,000.00), or both such fine and imprisonment. As used in this subsection, "child neglect" means the willful or malicious neglect, as defined by paragraph 47 of Section 1-1-105 of Title 10A of the Oklahoma Statutes, of a child under eighteen (18) years of age by another.
2014 Oklahoma Statutes :: Title 21. Crimes and Punishments :: §21-843.5. Child abuse - Child neglect - Child sexual abuse - Child sexual exploitation - Enabling - Penalties.
This is confusing as it says imprisonment not exceeding life but also says one year in county jail and a fine. Of course charges may change when the kids are found.
Some other possibilities could include second degree murder which seems to be akin to felony murder, manslaughter or other charges. Hopefully we'll know more in the next few days.
I'm going to assume the DA will bring the strongest charge they can against this mother - at least I hope so! All MOO.
Also, the aunt with custody is the sister of the dad, not the mom.Sorry but I'm confused.
The mother is "homeless" and didn't have custody of the children and yet, the mother was found passed out, on a couch, in an apartment somewhere. The children, of which the mother does not have custody, had the children in her care when they went missing.
Am I getting this right?
So who's apartment was she living in to begin with? Then, if she didn't have custody, why were the children with her at all?
The children's father is in jail?
An aunt has custody? What about Grandparents?
What a mess. Those poor children. I just can't imagine their living environment. So sad.
I know. Poor babies, they deserved better than this.The latest update about them holding hands and walking to the creek breaks my heart. I'm in tears.
YES. If you get mad at her, and so you want to walk away mad, that's fine----just take the babies with you, for their own safety. This is devastating. They are so little and so vulnerable.The bus line is right outside of the apartment complex. I haven’t heard about a vehicle.
I am really sick of these people who have custody of kids leaving them with bio parents when they aren’t supposed to and this happens! That is what I inferred from the press conference anyway. If this is the case, I hope charges get brought against that person as well.
PLEASE be careful, while searching, LuvDogs. Do you have any big protective dogs that can walk with you?There were people on that trail today searching. It's a sidewalk/path that follows a ditch. Lot's of weeds and tall shrubs along the trail . There are businesses on the north side of the hwy east of the trail with dumpsters and I searched many of those.. I saw a business boarded up back there that I wanted to go check out tomorrow. There seems to be quite a few of homeless camps also.
I am not sure that image came from cameras in the complex. It looks like it came from across the street -- maybe a ring camera or a dashboard cam?So frustrating! I know in that press conference with police chief he said the complex cameras weren’t working. Now, they release a still image of those kids at 10:15 am, alone in the complex!
Tulsa police continue search for toddlers missing since Friday; Additional surveillance footage shows them alone