Found Deceased ID - Joshua Vallow, 7, & Tylee Ryan, 16, Rexburg, Sept 2019 *Arrests* #56

[pizzaman12]

Did anyone else hear them say something about a blow torch and how people don’t normally have one? I’m horrified.

ETA: it’s at about the 3min mark

Which video? I thought I listened to them all and I don't even see one 3 minutes long?

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

(Body cam video clip at link)

Justin Lum
1 min ago

Over the phone, Zulema asks an officer why a search warrant is needed for her home. She says her kids are being traumatized by the police presence.

https://twitter.com/jlumfox10/status/1377320697442168832?s=21

I’m confused on when this call took place. It sounds like it happens after the police/emts took AC away. So did ZP leave her kids there while the police were still searching? Which kids? I thought it was just her son who lived there. If her kids were so traumatized, why wouldn’t she take them out of the house?

All jmo moo imo

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Which video? I thought I listened to them all and I don't even see one 3 minutes long?

Sorry, I am watching them on Facebook vs Twitter. Here’s the link to that particular video. Justin Lum Fox 10 Phoenix

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Cialis is like Viagra.

Thank you! Could AC have just had a bad reaction to this medication? Could he have taken too much?

 

[pizzaman12]

I can't remember and the timeline doesn't specify. I know the stories say his house where he lived with ZP and her son, etc...but was that the rental next door to LV or was this ZP home? If it's the one next to LV, the blowtorch comments are saddening

 

[osu]

They mentions Cialis, anyone know more about what this is used for. Attaching a link about the drug I found online: Cialis Uses, Dosage & Side Effects - Drugs.com

Cialis is prescribed for Erectile Dysfunction (ED).

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

I can't remember and the timeline doesn't specify. I know the stories say his house where he lived with ZP and her son, etc...but was that the rental next door to LV or was this ZP home? If it's the one next to LV, the blowtorch comments are saddening

If I remember correctly, AC ended up moving back to Arizona to live with ZP after they got married. That would mean the blowtorches were in her house. But that doesn’t specify whose they are/were. They could belong to anyone. Though it does seem questionable.

All jmo moo imo

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Cialis is prescribed for Erectile Dysfunction (ED).

Thank you!

 

[pizzaman12]

If I remember correctly, AC ended up moving back to Arizona to live with ZP after they got married. That would mean the blowtorches were in her house. But that doesn’t specify whose they are/were. They could belong to anyone. Though it does seem questionable.

All jmo moo imo

Thanks. I forgot it was in Arizona. I vaguely remember that but there was also part of me that remembered them being married but not living together.

 

[carbuff]

People who cook may have portable blowtorches around to use for things like melting the glaze on creme brûlée. General comment; I didn't listen to the video.

 

[montegrl]

Thank you! Could AC have just had a bad reaction to this medication? Could he have taken too much?

It looks like there might be a link:

Pulmonary embolism after tadalafil ingestion - PubMed (nih.gov)
Mystery of Viagra Deaths Unravels (webmd.com)

Study against the hypothesis:

A Case of Acute Pulmonary Thromboembolism after Taking Tadalafil (nih.gov)

 

[pizzaman12]

People who cook may have portable blowtorches around to use for things like melting the glaze on creme brûlée. General comment; I didn't listen to the video.

I agree and I have torches in my house for cooking and bbq. However, most people that have them are not connected to multiple murdered and buried children so my mind goes a different direction in this case. However, I forgot that he was in AZ at the time.

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

People who cook may have portable blowtorches around to use for things like melting the glaze on creme brûlée. General comment; I didn't listen to the video.

Yes some do. They do make different sizes. But when I heard that comment on the video my mind didn’t go there based on other things we’ve heard. Like I mentioned they could belong to anyone. And I certainly hope things aren’t connected.

All jmo moo imo

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

I agree and I have torches in my house for cooking and bbq. However, most people that have them are not connected to multiple meandered and buried children so my mind goes a different direction in this case. However, I forgot that he was in AZ at the time.

Right, I agree. My brain just jumped to something else based on other information. But they could belong to anyone honestly.

All jmo moo imo

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

It looks like there might be a link:

Pulmonary embolism after tadalafil ingestion - PubMed (nih.gov)
Mystery of Viagra Deaths Unravels (webmd.com)

Study against the hypothesis:

A Case of Acute Pulmonary Thromboembolism after Taking Tadalafil (nih.gov)

Thank you for sharing. So it’s possible that there isn’t anything nefarious to AC death. Or it’s possible someone else knew about the side effects linked to taking Cialis or taking too much. (I know they didn’t say necessarily if this belonged to AC but I can’t imagine it belonged to ZP or was her sons) I don’t know if we will ever know all about his passing. But this could be a good explanation of things.

All jmo moo imo

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Local update: MM is at the women’s detention center today.

 

[sassyblue]

Maybe ZP needed a blowtorch to control the weather and/or earthquakes.

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Maybe ZP needed a blowtorch to control the weather and/or earthquakes.

Haha! That could be possible.

 

[carbuff]

I agree and I have torches in my house for cooking and bbq. However, most people that have them are not connected to multiple murdered and buried children so my mind goes a different direction in this case. However, I forgot that he was in AZ at the time.

Truthfully that's where my mind went first, as well, but I think he would have left them in Idaho if that's what they were used for.

 

[SleuthD-o-doubleg]

Local update: MM is at the women’s detention center today.

Here’s a picture, I had to double back to get it. He just barely went inside but I wanted to put any rumors of LVD not being at the women’s detention center to rest.

*covered license plates for privacy of others in