Found Deceased WY - Gabrielle ‘Gabby’ Petito, 22, Grand Teton National Park, 25 Aug 2021 #56

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@NCWatcher posted:

"Yes, but BL may have told his parents they broke up & GP didn't want to talk to her parents about it yet. That she'd call them when she was ready. So his parents may not have listened to the messages left to know she was "missing." We just don't know what they knew or what they thought they knew. And while GP and BL had lived with them, they were adults...adults capable of planning a 4-month+ meandering tour of national parks. Young but not that young.
JMO"


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My understanding is that GP's family was texting in addition to calling.
I agree they're adults free to wander. But this was still Gabby's place of residence, and her family rightfully believed she was missing.
@NCWatcher , all plausible til the police knock on your door, at that point talk to Gabby’s parents and tell them what your son said, not clam up and hand LE your attorney’s card
 
I was clearly (I thought) hypothesizing a scenario favorable to the Ls and saying what I would do even in that situation where my kid had told me nothing truly alarming, but then I started getting calls and texts from my kid's gf's parents. It would be normal to reply, unless (assuming I'm not just a jerk) my child had either told me something tgat had already caused me to clam up (on lawyer advice or otherwise), or had asked me to stay out of an innocuous situation. Once the calls/texts come in, I would be back trying to have a talk with my kid, and absent a really good reason (say, one that prompted me to call a lawyer), I would then be calling them back.

This is really what throws me off in this case. My mind keeps going to BL returning with the van and telling his parents they broke up and GP flew back to her family and he took the van since she wasn't comfortable driving it (as seen in bodycam footage). But then it really doesn't explain the parent's ignoring GP's parent's texts/calls, unless they confronted him when they received the messages and he fessed up in a "it was a horrible accident" way or something along those lines... and they've kept silent as per their attorney's advice. It's just so hard to wrap my head around ignoring GP's parent's pleas for any information about their daughter.
All my own thoughts/opinions of course.
 
I was clearly (I thought) hypothesizing a scenario favorable to the Ls and saying what I would do even in that situation where my kid had told me nothing truly alarming, but then I started getting calls and texts from my kid's gf's parents. It would be normal to reply, unless (assuming I'm not just a jerk) my child had either told me something tgat had already caused me to clam up (on lawyer advice or otherwise), or had asked me to stay out of an innocuous situation. Once the calls/texts come in, I would be back trying to have a talk with my kid, and absent a really good reason (say, one that prompted me to call a lawyer), I would then be calling them back.
YUP. I have always thought that the best story BL could have told his parents was that they broke up and Gabby flew home to NY. If the parents believed that, they wouldn't have questioned him or why he had the van. They would have figured that Gabby was fine and was with her family.....that may have even happened, and it worked until Gabby's family started calling and texting...then they had to know that BL was lying and that they had better call their attorney. jmo
 
@NCWatcher posted:

"Yes, but BL may have told his parents they broke up & GP didn't want to talk to her parents about it yet. That she'd call them when she was ready. So his parents may not have listened to the messages left to know she was "missing." We just don't know what they knew or what they thought they knew. And while GP and BL had lived with them, they were adults...adults capable of planning a 4-month+ meandering tour of national parks. Young but not that young.
JMO"


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My understanding is that GP's family was texting in addition to calling.
I agree they're adults free to wander. But this was still Gabby's place of residence, and her family rightfully believed she was missing.
@NCWatcher , all plausible til the police knock on your door, at that point talk to Gabby’s parents and tell them what your son said, not clam up and hand LE your attorney’s card
 
Does this look like the area they stopped in?


https://twitter.com/MeganMyersNews/status/1446201611798388737?s=20

I copied from a previous post but don't know how to copy the whole post here

I'm going to say no, but I'd have to go back and watch the video to be 100% sure. The reason I say that is because Myers says that's in Fort Myers and Brian Entin followed CL from the reserve to his home and it didn't take an hour, unless I caught the end of the stream. @ce4au could probably answer better. They had a pretty thorough play-by-play going.
 
Pardon of this has been discussed, did a quick search but didn’t find anything related.

been out all day but did hear that CL did go to Reserve with FBI after all.

MOO-could some sort of deal have been agreed to in terms of his cooperation with LE and any hypothetical charges being brought against the parent. He may have been cooperating at some unknown level to us previously but why ask him to join today?
 
In the text exchanges posted earlier, SB stated that CL was not questioned, only there to point out BL's favorite spots. Also, was that even an FBI agent driving CL in the gator? Did they go to one spot, park, and remain there the whole 3.5 hours (I didn't see all the footage)?

I guess I'm not understanding the theories to why CL was at the park today.

According to the CNN report, the FBI requested CL's assistance prior to finding the supposed campsite yesterday, but when they found it, they didn't want him there yet. With the uptick in LE vehicles yesterday, it seems plausible enough that they found something. But they seemed to want CL's assistance even before that, which seems to rule out having him ID something there.

If they just wanted to talk to CL alone, wouldn't the FBI be doing that? Was that FBI driving the gator today, because they seemed to be alone near the trail. But why would BL's attorney lie and say he wasn't questioned?

My mind is going round and round. I still think we're making this too complicated...
 
The question of how they suddenly acquired money for the hotel and flight has been preying on my mind for a while.

How did they suddenly have the money to pay for those things when they didn't have money for a hotel room for a single night before?

Did they each phone their respective parents and say they'd had yet another bust up, and subsequently BL's parents paid for his flight home, and GP's parents paid for her hotel stay in SLC so they could have a week away from each other to cool down?

Does anyone know if the flight that was booked from SLC to FL was a return flight? Was there always the intention to return? Was it booked as a one way flight, maybe with the intention of splitting up for good, but upon returning to FL, BL changed his mind (either in defiance of his parents, or possibly persuaded by his parents) and decided to fly back out to Utah?

MOO

It's like something drastically changed in Moab. Again, I've watched way too much TV, in my time, but it feels like they (or B) got involved with someone/something and pressure was being applied. Was there something in that locker that someone wanted?
 
The preserve has been closed to the public since Laundrie vanished, though Bertolino says his parents have been cooperating since the search.

"It seems the water in the Preserve is receding and certain areas are more accessible to search," Bertolino said. "The entire Laundrie family is grateful for the hard work of the dedicated members of law enforcement that have been searching the Preserve for Brian over the last few weeks. Hopefully Brian will be located soon."
Receding Water in Brian Laundrie Search Area Could Help FBI; Nothing Found in Dad's 1st Assist
 
We don't know if he was still in possession of the card. He could have withdrawn the money with her knowledge then gave her the card back and said I'm going to drive the van back now. She had plans to meet up with Rose remember? Perhaps Rose was going to meet up with her and they will complete the trip together at the godmother's house in Oregon . We don't know so many things.
Is it likely that the 'card' was connected to a phone? I know that you can pay for things using your phone, so am wondering whether he didn't have the cards physically, but he did have access to them either on his phone or Gabbys phone.
 
Does anyone know which road LE and CL took from Myakkahatchee Park to the Panorama Lane we saw them stop on BE's video?
 
I have been giving this some thought.

When was Brian named a person of interest? I think it was after he went missing. Likewise the issue of the arrest warrant for unauthorised use of credit and debit cards.

When did they start searching for Brian - I think this was before he was named as a POI in Gabby's death and before the aarest warrant was issued.
So my question is, is he a fugitive or a missing person? Is there a difference because of the timings?

He was named on September 14th.
 
I'm pondering (and maybe overthinking) what today's actions were all about. Why would they take CL on foot, no protective gear at all, no waders , no boots just ordinary street clothes. If they think BL is armed and they were fearing suicide or a shootout with LE wouldn't they have given both him and his escort some bullet proof vests or something. If they feel that BL's state of mind is such that he may become violent or that his mental status is compromised due to dehydration, lack of sleep , hunger etc, they can't know that he wouldn't just shoot whoever gets near him! So then maybe they *weren't* expecting to come across BL at all but then what reason would they have for bringing CL there? If it was items they wanted identified it could have been done with a picture. His favorite hiking areas could be marked on a map so no need to bring him there for those reasons. I'm scratching my head trying to figure out what could only be accomplished by CL's physical presence at the site.
Same here. It’s very disappointing.
 
This is really what throws me off in this case. My mind keeps going to BL returning with the van and telling his parents they broke up and GP flew back to her family and he took the van since she wasn't comfortable driving it (as seen in bodycam footage). But then it really doesn't explain the parent's ignoring GP's parent's texts/calls, unless they confronted him when they received the messages and he fessed up in a "it was a horrible accident" way or something along those lines... and they've kept silent as per their attorney's advice. It's just so hard to wrap my head around ignoring GP's parent's pleas for any information about their daughter.
All my own thoughts/opinions of course.
I think murder just has severe consequences beyond the death of the individual, including lies, suspicions, broken families and relationships, people being ejected from society into prison or into social isolation, and so forth. Once set in motion by the murder, these forces play out, IMO there's no escaping these consequences, no one associated with either the murdered or the murderer can come out unaffected, as though it didn't happen. It's a kind of karma, IMO.
 
In the text exchanges posted earlier, SB stated that CL was not questioned, only there to point out BL's favorite spots. Also, was that even an FBI agent driving CL in the gator? Did they go to one spot, park, and remain there the whole 3.5 hours (I didn't see all the footage)?

I guess I'm not understanding the theories to why CL was at the park today.

According to the CNN report, the FBI requested CL's assistance prior to finding the supposed campsite yesterday, but when they found it, they didn't want him there yet. With the uptick in LE vehicles yesterday, it seems plausible enough that they found something. But they seemed to want CL's assistance even before that, which seems to rule out having him ID something there.

If they just wanted to talk to CL alone, wouldn't the FBI be doing that? Was that FBI driving the gator today, because they seemed to be alone near the trail. But why would BL's attorney lie and say he wasn't questioned?

My mind is going round and round. I still think we're making this too complicated...
Because BL's attorney, it seems, has a bad relationship with the truth. jmo
 
Seems odd to me that GP was working at Taco Bell. A girl with her looks and personality could surely do better than that, at least being a hostess in a nice restaurant. Maybe BL didn't want that kind of contact with so many people for her. But it seems she has had unskilled labor type jobs since graduating high school. I wonder why.

Working in the food service industry is honest and hard work for sure. Did it myself when young. But she could have done so much more in terms of jobs, choice of boyfriend/"fiance"' etc. Sure they are young but the ambition to be making a living from SM just feels weird to me with no apparent Plan B for life?

MOO- if she knew she was going cross country and needed to make some cash, maybe she didn't want to get tied down to a job that was "better than" taco bell.

(Which I am in no way putting down people that work at fast food restaurants...work is work!!)
 
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