Not a psychologist, but I've followed a lot of cases where the suspect has wound up killing himself.Any psychology folks here?? Something I have never understood…**IF** JK commits suicide, then seriously, what was the point of dismembering and dumping the bodies? When does the choice of suicide come into play? After shooting them? Then why go through the disgusting, messy (sorry), physically exhausting work of dismembering FOUR people, loading them up, and dumping them, if you know the entire time that you’re going to commit suicide after? Or does suicide only enter the mind after they realize they might not get away with it? And even then……why?
Anyone have insight on the psychology of this? TIA
I would imagine parting out cars is a transferable skill in this instance.I think they had experience beforehand also. Who knows how to disassemble humans? Do you google that?
Question: And I ask this with all respect. These men are found. And dead. And there's a suspect. So why are they still in the missing persons forum?
It's not unusual to take a day or two or three. Maybe the site is so busy.Question: And I ask this with all respect. These men are found. And dead. And there's a suspect. So why are they still in the missing persons forum?
Zero psychology background here, but my best uneducated guess is that it was extremely traumatic to do what he apparently [unconfirmed] did. In no way am I defending his alleged actions, which, IMHO, were horrific and borne out of extremely poor decisions. But for sake of argument, let's say he acted out of pure panic and adrenaline, and only afterward started feeling extreme remorse, to the point of being suicidal. Really, there is no going back to normal life after this. JMHOAny psychology folks here?? Something I have never understood…**IF** JK commits suicide, then seriously, what was the point of dismembering and dumping the bodies? When does the choice of suicide come into play? After shooting them? Then why go through the disgusting, messy (sorry), physically exhausting work of dismembering FOUR people, loading them up, and dumping them, if you know the entire time that you’re going to commit suicide after? Or does suicide only enter the mind after they realize they might not get away with it? And even then……why?
Anyone have insight on the psychology of this? TIA
Any psychology folks here?? Something I have never understood…**IF** JK commits suicide, then seriously, what was the point of dismembering and dumping the bodies? When does the choice of suicide come into play? After shooting them? Then why go through the disgusting, messy (sorry), physically exhausting work of dismembering FOUR people, loading them up, and dumping them, if you know the entire time that you’re going to commit suicide after? Or does suicide only enter the mind after they realize they might not get away with it? And even then……why?
Anyone have insight on the psychology of this? TIA
Never thought of that!I would imagine parting out cars is a transferable skill in this instance.
But that wouldn't have required a bicycle trailer, surely, unless the transactions were all in coins.
Whatever they were stealing was heavy enough that it needed multiple bicycle trailers to transport. I assume back to their own garages.
The only things I can think of would have been catalytic convertors, but that doesn't make that much sense because there is only 3-7 g of platinum-group metals in one and you have to have a significant technology strip them. Not something that the 5 guys would be able to do on their own. The salvage place has the contacts to buy the metals, not the guys stealing it, surely.
And word would certainly be getting around town and back to Joe Kennedy that someone else was edging in on his CC sales.
I had that thought, but didn't dare say. Still sounds like cartel sort of influence in some wayI wonder if there's a possibility JK was a witness to the murder and is running in fear of his life?
I had that thought, but didn't dare say. Still sounds like cartel sort of influence in some way
My thought from the beginning was similar. Imagine if (speculation coming up) JK was making a stack of extra cash by allowing some really dangerous types to store/deal illegal goods (weapons, hard drugs, whatever) out of some junker food truck or trailer on one of the salvage yards. These guys need some part to fix a car they’re working on and decide to try to steal it from the yard, and instead of running into an angry owner and his dog, run in to a group who wants no witnesses.I wonder if there's a possibility JK was a witness to the murder and is running in fear of his life?
Hunters would know how to do that, IMOI think it could have been justified (the shooting), but not the dismemberment. Who does that? It takes a special kind of person to do that.
The tag now says "Found deceased."Question: And I ask this with all respect. These men are found. And dead. And there's a suspect. So why are they still in the missing persons forum?