Found Deceased TN - Noah Chamberlin, 2, Pinson, 14 Jan 2016 - #2

[Ontario Mom]

Who better to assist local authorities with quickly determining if there is reason to suspect foul play? I am glad the local agencies are using all the support available to them. Helps them to quickly separate the wheat from the chaff in this case. This makes me feel better about LE stating they do not suspect foul play because it appears to me that belief is supported by experts in criminal behavior.

Yes. Just had to BOLD that part. Also, I'm purposely avoiding social media chatter on this case so I haven't really seen the rumors but I can only imagine they're all over the place. Causing local LE to look into bogus "leads" or whatever is a sickening waste of resources and precious time.

 

[Foxfire]

Behavioral science is concerned with gaining a better understanding of human behavior. The BRIU focuses specifically on criminal human behavior in an attempt to better understand criminals—who they are, how they think, why they do what they do—as a means to help solve crimes and prevent criminal activity.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cirg/investigations-and-operations-support/briu

I've been thinking about this for days now; due to the initial perceived hypothesis of Noah accidentally becoming lost in the woods. How could investigators justify calling in the FBI CARD Team<Child Abduction Rapid Deployment Team> or the many other valuable FBI investigative resources. After 5 days without answers, guess the justification criteria has now been met..


https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/investigate/vc_majorthefts/cac/card/card
Child Abduction Rapid Deployment (CARD) Teams

CARD Teams are designed to deploy teams of experienced personnel to provide on-the-ground investigative, technical, and resource assistance to state and local law enforcement.
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https://prezi.com/ayob9p5hh-7-/fbibehavioral-analysis-unit/

<Part of the FBI BAU evolution is enhancing the focus of BAU-2 on non-violent investigations.>

https://prezi.com/ayob9p5hh-7-/fbibehavioral-analysis-unit/

Transcript of FBI:behavioral Analysis Unit

Part of the BAU evolution is enhancing the focus of BAU-2 focusing on non-violent investigations.
Helping Locals
Provide assistance to local law enforcement agencies across the country and around the world the investigation analysis

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[kimi_SFC]

Thank you for links Foxfire. Yes, TBI was on scene from very early on. I distinctly recall that. Anyhow, I am SO thankful they've been working this case all along!

Again, this is non-verbal communication 101 IMVHO.

The need to control information is understandable (I guess). It just makes it hard for us, this many days in, to make sense of anything at all!

Where could he be?

#FindNoah

:candle:


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[JeannaT]

But isn't it automatic instinct to get the younger child standing right next to you whilst you do that?

I'm far from a perfect parent, if anything I'm overprotective, but if I ever had to give my full attention to one of my children, I made sure the others were right next to me whilst I did it. I can't imagine not doing that in the middle of a forest with a 2 year old. Surely you'd sit them down right next to you whilst you did what needed to be done?

No, it isn't an automatic instinct to get the unhurt one right next to you if you are enjoying nature. The instinct is to give attention to the other one and assume, except in cases of a child with behavioral issues, that that other child will pause and wait nearby. No, in a nature setting on a pleasure venture, parents don't pull a 2 year old close so they can interact with a 4 year old. Unless the two year old has autism or some other behavioral predisposition to run.

 

[ILOKAL]

I hate when people assume that if someone is a christian, it means they'd never harm another person. (Not saying anyone in this family harmed Noah...just speaking generally.) Just a pet peeve of mine, I guess.

Respectfully, but it seems as though you have read into that. The friend of Noah's father was describing the person he knows. That he is a Christian man who loves his family was describing him. He didn't ever say because he's a Christian man he could not have . . . . <modsnip>

 

[MsArk]

I apologize if this has been posted... I've not caught up on the past few pages. A bit of info on the family.

http://wreg.com//01/19/details-surface-about-family-of-noah-chamberlin/

PINSON, Tenn. -- WREG learned more about the family of missing 2-year-old Noah Chamberlin as crews entered day six of searching for him.
The parents are Jacob and Destiny Chamberlin.
The couple also has a 4-year-old daughter, who WREG is not identifying.
Chester County Sheriff Blair Weaver said family members are not talking to reporters, but one man close to the family said Noah's father was "frantic" when he discovered his son was missing.
Truck drivers at Venture Express on Law Road in Jackson, Tennessee banded together to support their co-worker, Jacob Chamberlin.

ETA--- Learning something new every day! See mod snip

 

[ILOKAL]

at the 7:20 mark in the video of presser at http://www.jacksonsun.com/story/news/2016/01/19/still-search-and-rescue/79018538/

is statements regarding the storm shelter, the concrete rumor, psychics, social media and false rumors in general.

"a lot of rumors like that tie us up when we need to be searching. But we have to follow up on every lead so . . .That's the problem with a lot of social media and rumors, how they get started. It ties us up and takes us away from what we need to be doing."

"You know, we're talking about that and we can sit here or stand here and say please don't start all these rumors but people are gonna do it because they enjoy it."

Thank you for posting that ticya. The very last sentence says it all and that's the very same impression I have . . . . They really DO enjoy it! Unbelievable!

 

[1southernmama]

This may sound like a silly question for SAR specialists (I've never been on a search) -
When they cover an area, do they only walk in one direction, from the center out or across a grid from a starting point and then move on?
Sometimes (especially in the hills) you can only see things from one direction and can walk right over them coming from the other way.

 

[1southernmama]

Thank you.

 

[JeannaT]

<modsnip> When you are out in the backyard woods with 2 preschoolers, and suddenly one falls or gets a splinter or needs help with a jacket zipper or shoelace, you stop and help that one out. You don't quick grab up the 2 1/2 year old so you can adjust the jacket zipper of the one. And to insinuate anything else, is to expect other-worldly perfection in a grandparent. It would actually completely stunt the development of the 2 year old, IMHO, if 2 minutes couldn't go by with the child out of eyesight of an adult.

I do have some experience with children with behavior disorders or autism, and in those cases, no, out in an area where they can run off quickly you don't let them out of your sight even for 15 seconds.

But that wasn't the case with Noah, and the grandmother was not remiss in attending to 2 minute issue with the older child. It was just a perfect storm, and it's resulted in a horrible tragedy for which the grandmother shouldn't be made to feel like her behavior was abnormal. Or suspect.

 

[passionflower]

Behavioral science is concerned with gaining a better understanding of human behavior. The BRIU focuses specifically on criminal human behavior in an attempt to better understand criminals—who they are, how they think, why they do what they do—as a means to help solve crimes and prevent criminal activity.

https://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cirg/investigations-and-operations-support/briu

why would they be called in.............to see how a 2 or 4 yr old thought? grandma? or kidnapper? and why 6 days later and not day 1? I guess I do not understand.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I just do not know what to say anymore. It is as if Noah disappeared into thin air.

 

[Ontario Mom]

Respectfully, but it seems as though you have read into that. The friend of Noah's father was describing the person he knows. That he is a Christian man who loves his family was describing him. He didn't ever say because he's a Christian man he could not have . . . . Yada, yada, yada. When people say things that aren't there . . . . THAT'S a pet peeve of mine.

Trying to piece all this back together from what was said, wasn't said, etc. I think this is coming from here:

"Jacob is a very Christian young man. He's very inspirational as far as believing in the good Lord," Gary Rinks, who manages the truck fleet at Venture Express, said. Rinks explained Jacob and Destiny are good people and love both of their children. "Do you think he would be capable of harming his child?" a reporter asked. "Under no circumstance. None whatsoever," Rinks replied without hesitation. Colleagues were disgusted at allegations surfacing on social media that the family could have had something to do with Noah's disappearance.

http://wreg.com/2016/01/19/details-surface-about-family-of-noah-chamberlin/

I think the implication was, because he's a Christian, he would never harm his child. Some people do actually believe that, and in some cases it's actually true. However, after following so many cases here and reading of so many others in the headlines over the last 40 years, I think we all know that this isn't always true.

That said, I have no reason at all to believe anything other than what local LE is telling us to be true about this family.

moo.

 

[JanetElaine]

Morning. Did I miss anything? (No, don't answer. I'll catch up. I'm just so discouraged to still see active search... although at this point I guess it's better than the alternative).

 

[JeannaT]

I just do not know what to say anymore. It is as if Noah disappeared into thin air.

There was some discussion in this thread about the actual area that was searched, and although I know it involves a lot of guesswork, it doesn't seem they searched nearly far enough. Sorry to not go back and find the original creator of the post, but apparently it was announced at a PC that 1000 acres was searched, and if that's the case, the poster said that was 1/2 mile in all directions.

That's not nearly enough. Not nearly. You should expect the child to be within that radius for the first 1/2 hour of going missing, after that, the area he could have wandered to expands out 5 miles in all directions, IMHO. It's a surprise to me that we who sit at our computers and read these stories for years have knowledge of this, and professional searchers seem to limit the geographical area to a MUCH smaller space.

 

[Edinlass]

Nearly a whole week and no sign of this precious little boy, nothing. I am having a hard time understanding why only half a mile in ALL directions have been searched only. Per above post they should be searching far wider than that IMO. Given that little Noah has been described as very active etc. It's not rocket science. Come on. Feeling very disheartened.

Unfortunately I don't see a happy outcome. As much as I hate typing that, it's the reality of the situation.

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[angels among us]

Who better to assist local authorities with quickly determining if there is reason to suspect foul play? I am glad the local agencies are using all the support available to them. Helps them to quickly separate the wheat from the chaff in this case. This makes me feel better about LE stating they do not suspect foul play because it appears to me that belief is supported by experts in criminal behavior.

I'd like to add that I watched the news briefing yesterday. I recorded it to dissect and see if I missed anything the first time. A reporter asked if they are considering at all the possibility that he may not be in the woods or are they just that sure. The sheriff replied "we are pretty well that sure". They also said "we don't have any reason to believe otherwise...none."

I don't know how to link the news briefing. But I am sitting here right now watching, listening, and pausing it to make sure that I get what they said exactly.

 

[tlcya]

The TBI has been involved from day one, almost immediately they were on scene and assisting local law enforcement.

The TBI is asking residents who live in the area to search near their homes, in crawl spaces, cars and sheds.


Anyone with information on his whereabouts is urged to call the Tennessee Bureau of Investigation at 1-800-TBI-FIND.

http://wkrn.com/2016/01/14/endanger...or-2-year-old-boy-last-seen-going-into-woods/

The FBI and presumably the BRIU along with them has been involved since at least the 17th (day 3). They may have been involved from day one, this is just the first acknowledgment in the MSM I saw of their involvement.

The FBI is now assisting with the case, but it is not clear if that means there is a criminal investigation.

http://www.wtvm.com/story/30988633/volunteers-not-giving-up-hope-in-search-for-2-year-old

It appears that local law enforcement called for and/or accepted all help and support offered from other agencies almost immediately. The focus seems to have been Noah from the first moment. I am really impressed with how all these agencies are working toward the goal of finding Noah. No apparent peeing matches over who has jurisdiction, who is in the lead. Just everyone focused on finding Noah.

This community should be proud IMO of themselves, of their officials and of law enforcement and how they have all come together in the search for little guy.

 

[Ray_of_hope]

We've had no info re: how active or gregarious Noah is. We assume he is still in diapers but we really know nothing about him except age, height and weight and the fact that he's missing.

 

[angels among us]

Nearly a whole week and no sign of this precious little boy, nothing. I am having a hard time understanding why only half a mile in ALL directions have been searched only. Per above post they should be searching far wider than that IMO. Given that little Noah has been described as very active etc. It's not rocket science. Come on. Feeling very disheartened.

Unfortunately I don't see a happy outcome. As much as I hate typing that, it's the reality of the situation.

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In the news briefing yesterday they said they have searched about 1000 acres.

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