Found Deceased Australia - Karen Ristevski, 47, Melbourne, Vic, 29 June 2016 - #16 *Arrest*

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they'll get you said:
The cops might have convinced her to be wired for sound. Ya never know what our boyz in blue are up to.
Don’tcha love their tactics! Hey they got Ol’ Rick Thorburn didn’t they.
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I admire the police that do this. But I think that our crime detection is so great because it is not left to local police but to specialised homicide teams. And because the head of our law enforcement is not elected, like sheriffs are, they can be more objective.
 
they'll get you said:
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Did anyone notice any body language between the two when they were seen together and
Fear, animosity or unadulterated hatred?
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No fear between the two, finished each others sentence, agreed on certain issues. Young lady broken and no as towards hatred, again as a very limited opinion. If I walked into my mum and dads room and there was a picture of myself next to a night table and nobody else...um not sure.
 
Ipad query...how to hid blood....how to delete phone data..

Borce makes special comment. ..that he can't comment because he suspects his phones are bugged...

Whatever happened....his either covering for someone else...he did it and had help...

So who ratted him out.....
 
Puggle said:
Ipad query...how to hid blood....how to delete phone data..

Borce makes special comment. ..that he can't comment because he suspects his phones are bugged...

Whatever happened....his either covering for someone else...he did it and had help...

So who ratted him out.....
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I don't know Pug.
Is it going to be the police pressured her to turn against her father or her father pressured her to turn against her mother?
 
I think Sarah has been separating herself from her father ever since she went on that overseas holiday.
There is some kind of inheritance to gain probably, maybe some family to hang onto for future support, a whole life to be lived.
 
A terrible position for any child to be in. She is fairly young, and I am sure she loved both her parents. Her trauma is something that will remain with her all her life, and will affect all she does in the future. Nothing but sadness here.
 
I feel Sarah didn’t witness the murder but she heard the arguments over the financial problems.
She initially believed her father that Karen walked out ‘to clear her head’ as she had done after many arguments.
He was there making public appeals, he ran around asking neighbours for footage and he played the game just like many murderers before him, yeah and later carrying the coffin and grieving openly.
Then the police, Aunty Pat and the media stepped up a notch and that was when she started to question her loyalty.
The police and Karen’s family would have made her second think and when the penny really dropped it would’ve hit her hard, really hard.
Loyalty...he swears he didn’t do it...his solicitors convincingly say he’s innocent and at those times she still believes him.
The cops were frantically searching for Karen and feared she was dead and they were right, dead and dumped in the bush.
She trusted her father but then to realise her father killed her mum, well, most would be in a straight jacket.

Cross everything that Aunty Pat & Co. are helping her stay strong during the upcoming court case.
 
OR if BR had a filthy temper and domestic violence was a common occurrence THEN Sarah might have suspected daddy immediately.

The only time I’d ever walk away from a rational debate is if I felt it was going to progress into a heated argument.
Is that why she’d leave the house to escape an argument which she felt was going to progress into violence?
Women who live with violence don’t normally have the opportunity to walk away ‘to clear their heads’, they wouldn’t dare. They run IF they can.

We all know Karen didn’t walk out of the house that day.
 
We’ve all seen the video where the reporter asked if he’d killed Karen IMO BR gave ultimatums not to be approached, not to answer questions and not have to speak. Aunt Pat would’ve heard his requests
Body language tells it all.
Sarah was shaking her head ‘NO’ to the reporter because she knew daddy would spit the dummy (again?)
Maybe he was being better behaved than usual that day but the red face and the protruding veins tells me there was an explosion being suppressed for later. Sarah knew what was coming.
‘NO’ don’t approach him please.


'Did you kill your wife?' Husband refuses to answer question | Daily Mail Online

All my opinion.
 
they'll get you said:
I feel Sarah didn’t witness the murder but she heard the arguments over the financial problems.
She initially believed her father that Karen walked out ‘to clear her head’ as she had done after many arguments.
He was there making public appeals, he ran around asking neighbours for footage and he played the game just like many murderers before him, yeah and later carrying the coffin and grieving openly.
Then the police, Aunty Pat and the media stepped up a notch and that was when she started to question her loyalty.
The police and Karen’s family would have made her second think and when the penny really dropped it would’ve hit her hard, really hard.
Loyalty...he swears he didn’t do it...his solicitors convincingly say he’s innocent and at those times she still believes him.
The cops were frantically searching for Karen and feared she was dead and they were right, dead and dumped in the bush.
She trusted her father but then to realise her father killed her mum, well, most would be in a straight jacket.

Cross everything that Aunty Pat & Co. are helping her stay strong during the upcoming court case.
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I keep remembering how an early poster said that this was thought to be a planned murder, at that time.

If that is the case, I don't think Sarah would have known about it. Daddy would have wanted to protect her from that knowledge, and not look like a mother-killing monster in her eyes.

But I think as time went by, when she maybe couldn't find any of Karen's usual shoes that were missing, when Karen didn't contact her, when Karen's birth family started to suspect ... I think the niggles seriously started with Sarah.
Maybe she turned to her friends then, went away, tried to escape the situation.

And maybe the police contacted her while she was away, spoke with her when she was removed from it all, maybe she opened up a bit then.
 
SouthAussie said:
I keep remembering how an early poster said that this was thought to be a planned murder, at that time.

If that is the case, I don't think Sarah would have known about it. Daddy would have wanted to protect her from that knowledge, and not look like a mother-killing monster in her eyes.

But I think as time went by, when she maybe couldn't find any of Karen's usual shoes that were missing, when Karen didn't contact her, when Karen's birth family started to suspect ... I think the niggles seriously started with Sarah.
Maybe she turned to her friends then, went away, tried to escape the situation.

And maybe the police contacted her while she was away, spoke with her when she was removed from it all, maybe she opened up a bit then.
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Argh .. I do not know what to think, anymore.
I can't shake the message from Sarah to Ms Hili after she had logged in to her mothers account.
Yet being to devastated to speak when Ms Hili phoned to respond to that 4 word message, "have you seen Mum?"
I guess it will all come down to whether Sarah's initial police statement was accurate and has been able to be verified.
Or whether more recent statements 2, 3 or 4 have been given.
Borce's lawyers would know wouldn't they?
imo
 
sosocurious said:
Argh .. I do not know what to think, anymore.
I can't shake the message from Sarah to Ms Hili after she had logged in to her mothers account.
Yet being to devastated to speak when Ms Hili phoned to respond to that 4 word message, "have you seen Mum?"
I guess it will all come down to whether Sarah's initial police statement was accurate and has been able to be verified.
Or whether more recent statements 2, 3 or 4 have been given.
Borce's lawyers would know wouldn't they?
imo
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BBM. I think that Sarah learnt something or suspected something between when that message was sent and when she got the phone call from her mother's friend. She goes from asking someone have they seen her mum, to too devastated to take the answer to that question within a small time frame? I think that this says it all.
 
I wonder if Borce said to Sarah, after a day or two "You need to calm down and stop looking for your mother. She's not coming back. Don't ask me how I know that. Just that we had some risky dealings, and I know that she is not coming back. We can't say a word about this."
 
SouthAussie said:
I wonder if Borce said to Sarah, after a day or two "You need to calm down and stop looking for your mother. She's not coming back. Don't ask me how I know that. Just that we had some risky dealings, and I know that she is not coming back. We can't say a word about this."
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I really don't think that any daughter who loved her mother would take that at face value without thinking that her father didn't have anything to do with it. I could imagine a child younger than Sarah being scared into silence by something like that, but Sarah was a woman, not a child.
 
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