GUILTY - Wayne Millard Murder Trial - Dellen Millard Charged With Murder - #4

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Antique guns aren’t necessarily legal. My point was I don’t think we know if it was legal when the wife originally sold it because we don’t know what year that occurred, only that it wasn’t by the time MWJ was in possession of it and sold it to DM. It could have passed through dozens of owners between then and 2012.
The change in law that you referred to in 1998 only pertained to antique guns, produced before 1898. There has always been a procedure that needed to be followed when selling weapons. The 1998 law only made it easier to sell antiques.
 
Once one *has* a licenced gun registered to himself, is it a forever thing, or does the registration have to be renewed periodically..... because obviously things can change, just like with driving.. and just like with this officer who had dementia.
Once you are registered, its permanent. The licence does need to be renewed every five years, but that doesn't require anything but a form and some money. That is the flaw in the system.
 
The change in law that you referred to in 1998 only pertained to antique guns, produced before 1898. There has always been a procedure that needed to be followed when selling weapons. The 1998 law only made it easier to sell antiques.

Not quite always a procedure. Throughout the recent years, it’s been in constant flux.
Gun laws in Canada - Wikipedia

All these years later and provinces are still offering amnesty programs to gun owners to turn over their illegally-owned weapons, without fear of reprisal unless the weapon was used to commit a crime.
Looking to unload your gun? OPP will take it off your hands in April | CBC News

MJW was charged for selling illegal weapons as he should be. Unless we want it to become a practise for LE to exhaust themselves tracing the entire chain of ownership for every weapon that unknowingly later gets used in a crime, it serves no worthwhile purpose to make an example of just one person who’s gun was properly registered at the time. Resources are better spent continuing to bust criminals and organizations who are in possession of illegal weapons or the people who fraudently supply them with guns. JMO
 
Not quite always a procedure. Throughout the recent years, it’s been in constant flux.
Gun laws in Canada - Wikipedia

All these years later and provinces are still offering amnesty programs to gun owners to turn over their illegally-owned weapons, without fear of reprisal unless the weapon was used to commit a crime.
Looking to unload your gun? OPP will take it off your hands in April | CBC News

MJW was charged for selling illegal weapons as he should be. Unless we want it to become a practise for LE to exhaust themselves tracing the entire chain of ownership for every weapon that unknowingly later gets used in a crime, it serves no worthwhile purpose to make an example of just one person who’s gun was properly registered at the time. Resources are better spent continuing to bust criminals and organizations who are in possession of illegal weapons or the people who fraudently supply them with guns. JMO
Not quite that simple. The gun was still in the cops name. It was sold illegally. To a certain extent, the guy that sold the gun is just as guilty as MWJ.
 
Not quite that simple. The gun was still in the cops name. It was sold illegally. To a certain extent, the guy that sold the gun is just as guilty as MWJ.

In what year are you alleging it sold illegally? And how do you know that it was sold illegally in the cops name.

Facts are important.
 
Millard's Gun dealer got 12 years, and hopefully it's a precedent. But his type gun activity is a whole other story. MOO.

At the beginning of 2018, MWJ was sentenced to 11 years. He was given credit for pre-trial custody and for harsh treatment in the jail. As of today, he has less than 3 years left to serve. Crazy but true.

Man who sold guns to Dellen Millard sentenced to 11 years | The Star

I don't know what happened with the other two Matthews (Odlum and Wawrykiewicz).
 
Regarding the origins of the gun, I believe this will clear it up.

"In late spring of 2012, Mr. Nando LaRocca purchased a .32 calibre Smith and Wesson firearm from Miss Theresa Boisvert. This is the same .32 calibre Smith and Wesson that was later found at 5 Maple Gate Court in the fall of 2012. He paid $100 for it. On June 24, 2012, Mr. LaRocca sold this firearm to Mr. Matthew Odlum. He did so at the corner of Baby Point Rd. and Humbercrest Dr. in Toronto. When Mr. LaRocca sold the firearm to Mr. Odlum there was no ammunition in it."

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I believe DM paid MWJ $2200 for the gun. Quite the mark-up as it changed hands!

And for the sake of full disclosure, ABro said in her tweets that the registered owner of the gun (the Peel police officer) had dementia, so it's possible he did not know that his wife/gf sold it.
 
In what year are you alleging it sold illegally? And how do you know that it was sold illegally in the cops name.

Facts are important.

I am going to make some likely assumptions.

The handgun is a restricted (this one may be prohibited) weapon and requires proper authorization to transport the weapon. The fact that Theresa sold it to LaRocca in itself is not an indicator of it being an illegal transfer. But LaRocca selling it to Odlum at the corner of Baby Point Rd. and Humbercrest Dr. in Toronto, sounds very shady. If it was a shady deal, then most likely Mr. Odum didn't go through the RCMP process to possess a restricted firearm when he bought it from Theresa. Therefore Theresa didn't notify the RCMP about the transfer. MOA

"Restricted or prohibited firearms must be verified by an approved verifier if they are being transferred to a new owner and have not been previously verified. A provincial or territorial Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) must approve all transfers of restricted and prohibited firearms."
 
In what year are you alleging it sold illegally? And how do you know that it was sold illegally in the cops name.

Facts are important.
Facts are that those guns traded hands as many as four times in a couple of months, and nobody changed registration from the cop's name.

No one checked into the gun found at Wayne Millard's bedside. After the Bosma case, when they finally did check it, they found out almost instantly it was registered to a Peel Police cop with dementia. 7)

I'll give a pass to the wife of the cop as she is likely elderly, but everyone else was simply trafficking weapons for profit.
 
As we celebrate the verdict here, I want to take the opportunity to mention that I joined WS back in 2013, specifically to follow the TB case, as it was a case very close to home, and so incredibly bizarre. Recently, I've been closely following another heart-wrenching case based in Colorado, and I am dumbfounded by the differences in the threads. <modsnip>

I agree Factoria.
The Colorado case, has produced a great deal of interest, and I also am astonished to what is posted.
Here, the threads are a delight to follow.
 
Regarding the origins of the gun, I believe this will clear it up.

"In late spring of 2012, Mr. Nando LaRocca purchased a .32 calibre Smith and Wesson firearm from Miss Theresa Boisvert. This is the same .32 calibre Smith and Wesson that was later found at 5 Maple Gate Court in the fall of 2012. He paid $100 for it. On June 24, 2012, Mr. LaRocca sold this firearm to Mr. Matthew Odlum. He did so at the corner of Baby Point Rd. and Humbercrest Dr. in Toronto. When Mr. LaRocca sold the firearm to Mr. Odlum there was no ammunition in it."

Opinion | Millard, Smich choose not to testify at Babcock murder trial: DiManno
I believe DM paid MWJ $2200 for the gun. Quite the mark-up as it changed hands!

And for the sake of full disclosure, ABro said in her tweets that the registered owner of the gun (the Peel police officer) had dementia, so it's possible he did not know that his wife/gf sold it.

Thanks for that! So I wonder how it got into the hands of MJW, noted as “one of the worst firearms offenders” or if it was directly by Mr O?

Regardless MJW sold at least three illegal guns to DM. He murdered his father but which gun he used wouldn’t have changed things.
 
Absolutely surprised and pleased with the judgement.

My opinion only...

Carl's generation didn't have wealth, didn't have many choices, could not afford to choose any career they want. Carl's only opportunity to get ahead was to be an entrepreneur and work hard. Carl's love of his child, Wayne, was expressed with money. Money gave his child, Wayne, something Carl himself never had.

Wayne got a guaranteed path to a career, and he did not have to slave night and day. Wayne took advantage of the opportunity and become a pilot. Wayne lived a luxurious life, earned a good living. While he had the world by the tail, he still had his father Carl's example - he knew that his father worked for all he had, and a bit of that rubbed off on Wayne, so while he lived in luxury, he was still somewhat frugal.

Like his father Carl, Wayne also gave his son, Dellen, material comfort without requiring work in return. Dellen was not worried about finances, and did not learn that money comes from hard work and devotion. Rather, Dellen learned that money is an entitlement. Dellen never had a father figure that worked for his money, but rather a father figure who had whatever he wanted, by family fortune alone.

Dellen, by virtue of family money, was able to do whatever he wanted in life, without working for it. Education and career choice was secure, if he wanted it, but also, anything else he wanted. If he chose to not apply himself, and without education or a career, he could have a helicopter, boats, sea-doos, Baja race trucks, dating multiple women at the same time, on and on, he was spoiled rotten. So he chose to live which delighted them. Drugs, money, sex, power and control. Whatever he wanted, he got, or took.

People fawned over him, he could have parties, and be respected by everyone, by virtue of the family wealth and the toys. He could control others. What a rush this was, the ultimate puppet master, pull the strings and watch them dance. His assemblage of friends were all similiar, with money and drugs, he could control them, and they would allow him, never challenging him. He could cheat on his girlfriend, she would allow it, as he had money. He was addicted to the admiration and respect that this control seemed to bring.

Mother Madeleine - further encouraged Dellen. My little golden child. How precious you are. Despite Dellen's loser existence, his mother continued to hold him in a position of esteem. After all, since Wayne and her split, Dellen was essentially the only true family she had. So she doted on Dellen.

At some point, it seems that Wayne realized his son was wasting his life away. The entitlement and arrogance was not what Wayne wanted in his son, but rather, Wayne desired the family legacy passed to Dellen, as MillardAir was passed to him.

And so, Wayne ressurected MillardAir as an MRO, and he tried hard to bring this new business venture to fruition. This was essentially Wayne's way of teaching his son how to earn his money, and in so doing, pass the family business to Dellen. However, Wayne's poor choices earlier in life, and Madeleine's continued doting, both assisted in the molding of a Dellen who was entitled, arrogant, and narcissistic. So, try as Wayne might, the MRO venture was essentially doomed to fail once Dellen got control over it.

Dellen, viewed the MillardAir MRO with disdain. How dare Wayne leverage the money and have it tied up in a business. Dellen, with his entitlement, felt the money was to be his, and Dellen wanted to do whatever he wanted with it. Problem, the money belonged to Wayne, and the MRO in Waterloo simply was not Dellen's decision. Wayne was moving forward with his plan, and Dellen needed to fall into line.

Falling in line, and recognizing the authority Wayne held, was intolerable to Dellen. He does what he wants, when he wants, and the world owes him. He was, in his own mind, "Heaven Sent" and "Don't you dare forget" (OR ELSE)

At some point, Dellen decided to murder Laura Babcock. He wanted to impress CN, so he mapped it out, and then dulled all that he had as a conscience, and completed the dreadful deed of murdering Laura. Interesting, afterwards, he felt not guilt, but an adrenaline rush. This was the ultimate power trip, the power of life and death. Dellen felt God-like. What a trip.

Now, the biggest payback of all. He could take the business, the homes, and live a life of extreme luxury. All it would require, is offing his father, and everything would be his. What a perfect plan. And so, with no semblance of conscience remaining, he planned, then proceeded in his second murder, and boom, instant control of the family fortune. He could dismantle the MillardAir MRO, use the hangar as a chop shop, make lots of money, and kill as he pleased.

The lesson so far? He could kill with impunity, he could control everyone around him, and he could do whatever he wanted. Sights on other targets.

Like most drugs, the euphoria dulls with the conscience over time, and eventually, he wanted another hit of it. So, Tim Bosma became his third target, and like Laura's murder, another euphoric buzz. He felt incarnate. All the worldly posessions he wanted could be his, he could simply kill and take. Lesson learned, he can control and murder and gain both a high, and profit financially from it.

when the police were closing in on him, his arrogance and narcissism overcame his fear. Once incarcerated, he again proceeded to control and manipulate Noudga and his mother, into beating the charge by lying and witness tampering. The puppet master still felt the control buzz, even while awaiting trial for murder. After all, he had gotten away with it twice already, third time - walk in the park.

I am convinced, to this day, some things have not changed, and they never will.
(1) Dellen felt entitled to be free and wealthy, and get whatever he wants. And he still feels the same.
(2) Life in prison will consist of more attempts to control and manipulate others. If not fellow prisoners, then his mother and the guards.
(3) Dellen will never feel remorse for his crimes, he is Heaven Sent, his narcissism and psychopathy are incurable.
(4) Wayne and Dellen would have been so much better off, had Carl never seen wealth.
(5) Carl controlled the money, Wayne enjoyed the money, and money controlled Dellen.

What a sad ending. Many lives lost and shattered, including his own family.

My opinion only...

What an excellent post. It’s hard to believe this part of the nightmare is finally over for the families and friends of Laura, Tim and Wayne. I hope the verdict helps them find some peace knowing that DM will likely be in prison for the rest of his life.
 
I am going to make some likely assumptions.

The handgun is a restricted (this one may be prohibited) weapon and requires proper authorization to transport the weapon. The fact that Theresa sold it to LaRocca in itself is not an indicator of it being an illegal transfer. But LaRocca selling it to Odlum at the corner of Baby Point Rd. and Humbercrest Dr. in Toronto, sounds very shady. If it was a shady deal, then most likely Mr. Odum didn't go through the RCMP process to possess a restricted firearm when he bought it from Theresa. Therefore Theresa didn't notify the RCMP about the transfer. MOA

"Restricted or prohibited firearms must be verified by an approved verifier if they are being transferred to a new owner and have not been previously verified. A provincial or territorial Chief Firearms Officer (CFO) must approve all transfers of restricted and prohibited firearms."

Confirming that this particular gun is prohibited. This is by virtue of it's caliber. Note - prohibited means that only holders of Prohibited class (12X) are allowed to possess and acquire them. There are no new prohibited class licenses being granted, so as each Prohib class holder dies, the available purchasers in the market shrinks. As such, prohib class weapons are becoming harder to sell, and lower in value. (ETA - legally sell)
 
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Once you are registered, its permanent. The licence does need to be renewed every five years, but that doesn't require anything but a form and some money. That is the flaw in the system.

A point of clarification. The renewal is more than a form and money. Prior to re-issuing, there is a CPIC background check for firearms related charges, mental health affidavit, and a check on any history of threatening behaviour. Any of these triggers can stop the renewal, at which point, the existing license will revoke on expiry. If a license expires without renewal, the CFO alerts local police, who can follow up with confiscation of any firearms. This is the fuse in the system.
 
Very interesting observations you’ve eloquently expressed that aptly reflects some of my thoughts as well.

While the triple conviction of DM is a victory, his life brought great tragedy onto many others that can’t be erased. His motivation throughout reeks of entitlement, superiority and grandiose, the seeds first planted by the success and financial wealth by Carl Millard, the grandfather.

DM stands amongst other wealthy people who have also murdered their loved ones out of spiteful greed as well.

20 Ghastly Murders Committed By Rich People
DM is a psychopath. He started out wanting to get rid of father for the money and probably afraid father would marry gf. Then he got rid of Laura because she was causing problems. The next murder of Tim Bosma was to get the truck that he could easily afford with the money he got from inheritance from father. It was for the thrill kill, he needed the high it gave him to murder. If not stopped there would have been a lot more murders.
 
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