TX TX - Huntsville, 'Walker County Jane Doe', WhtFem 14-16, 91UFTX, Nov'80 #3 *NAME NOT RELEASED*

[sunnynz]

This really confuses me when a person was found so shortly after death. Why would height and weight not be exact? I understand if remains were skeletal, or in really bad shape (i.e. the poor people who have limbs removed) but it seems straight forward enough in this case to have recorded accurate height and weight.

It could often be human error - person typing it in reads someone's handwritten zero as a 6 or vice versa

 

[Beekarina]

It could often be human error - person typing it in reads someone's handwritten zero as a 6 or vice versa

That's true. I've noticed it happens fairly often though. It is frustrating, whatever the explanation.

 

[Hockeyfan158]

Chances are slim but did anyone ever check to see if Walker County Jane Doe is Helen Claire Frost who went missing in Canada in 1970?

 

[Nell91]

Chances are slim but did anyone ever check to see if Walker County Jane Doe is Helen Claire Frost who went missing in Canada in 1970?

She would have been 28 when WCJD was found so I'd say that rules it out but they do look quite similar

 

[Beekarina]

Her age, and again if you compare the post-mortem photos of WCJD, the incredibly features, particularly her nose.

Plus, I think a really young looking 28 year-old if asked "Do your parents know where you are?" would be more inclined to say something like "Lady, mind your own business, I'm almost 30" rather than tell the waitress she was 19.

 

[Sweetluv]

I have to agree, I dont believe this is our girl....
Does anyone know how long it would take on foot, to walk from the first witness sighting to the second truck stop? And do we know what time she was spotted at the 2nd location?....just trying to develop a timeline.

 

[Hockeyfan158]

Mary Leah Rodermund Height is between 5 ft 3 and 5 ft 5 and she is from Louisiana and hasn’t been ruled out yet.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

 

[Hockeyfan158]

Mary Leah Rodermund Height is between 5 ft 3 and 5 ft 5 and she is from Louisiana and hasn’t been ruled out yet.

The National Missing and Unidentified Persons System (NamUs)

Update: Submitted it yesterday

 

[Bit of hope]

@othram did LE ever contacted you about this case? It's about time this one is resolved, maybe even catch the killer, posthumously? It's a long time I visited this thread...can't remember if there were any identifiers still left.

 

[Bit of hope]

Can somebody post a rule out list? Thanks upfront.

 

[PropaneYeeter]

Can somebody post a rule out list? Thanks upfront.

Here's one I've gathered over the years:
Diane Genice Dye
Corinne Anita Hagler
Gina Renee Hall
Cecile Frances Moch
Sophia Felecita Moreno
Emma Lorene Vaughn
Jackie Kay Boyer
Michelle Meredith Mulcahy
Yvette Anne Watson
Ida Faye Basco
Mary Louise Day
Deborah A. McCall
Cindy Irene King
Mary Rachel Trlica
Kristy Lynne Booth
Laureen Ann Rahn
Kimberly Rae Doss
Maria Florence Anjiras
Roxane Easland
Rachael Elizabeth Garden
Angela Mae Meeker
Joyce Creola Brewer
Carla Rebecca Corley
Tina Faye Kemp
Wendy Eaton
Karen Lynn Zendrosky
Marie Ann Blee
Marcia Estelle Remick
Carol Elaine Donn
Evelyn Louise Davis
Teresa Lynn Rhodes
Wendy Brown Stevenson
Edna Christine Thorne
Cheryl Schille Wyant
Teresa Amanda Alfonso
Andria Ann Bailey
Lisa Jane Borden
Sandra Kaye Butler
Dorothy Mildred Clitheroe
Judy Lynn Davis
Karen Beth Kamsch
Julie Ann Moseley
Deborah Ann Quimby
Angela Sigrid Ramsey
Ann Marie Ellinwood
Lisa Renee Wilson
Robyn Ann Pettinato
Teresa Marie Byers

 

[Sweetluv]

Wow...SO MANY ruleouts!

 

[Beekarina]

@PropaneYeeter Thank you! I alphabetized your list:

Teresa Amanda Alfonso
Maria Florence Anjiras
Andria Ann Bailey
Ida Faye Basco
Marie Ann Blee
Kristy Lynne Booth
Lisa Jane Borden
Jackie Kay Boyer
Joyce Creola Brewer
Sandra Kaye Butler
Teresa Marie Byers
Dorothy Mildred Clitheroe
Carla Rebecca Corley
Judy Lynn Davis
Evelyn Louise Davis
Mary Louise Day
Carol Elaine Donn
Kimberly Rae Doss
Diane Genice Dye
Roxane Easland
Wendy Eaton
Ann Marie Ellinwood
Rachael Elizabeth Garden
Corinne Anita Hagler
Gina Renee Hall
Karen Beth Kamsch
Tina Faye Kemp
Cindy Irene King
Deborah A. McCall
Angela Mae Meeker
Cecile Frances Moch
Sophia Felecita Moreno
Julie Ann Moseley
Michelle Meredith Mulcahy
Robyn Ann Pettinato
Deborah Ann Quimby
Laureen Ann Rahn
Angela Sigrid Ramsey
Marcia Estelle Remick
Teresa Lynn Rhodes
Wendy Brown Stevenson
Edna Christine Thorne
Mary Rachel Trlica
Emma Lorene Vaughn
Yvette Anne Watson
Lisa Renee Wilson
Cheryl Schille Wyant
Karen Lynn Zendrosky

 

[Bit of hope]

Here's one I've gathered over the years:
Diane Genice Dye
Corinne Anita Hagler
Gina Renee Hall
Cecile Frances Moch
Sophia Felecita Moreno
Emma Lorene Vaughn
Jackie Kay Boyer
Michelle Meredith Mulcahy
Yvette Anne Watson
Ida Faye Basco
Mary Louise Day
Deborah A. McCall
Cindy Irene King
Mary Rachel Trlica
Kristy Lynne Booth
Laureen Ann Rahn
Kimberly Rae Doss
Maria Florence Anjiras
Roxane Easland
Rachael Elizabeth Garden
Angela Mae Meeker
Joyce Creola Brewer
Carla Rebecca Corley
Tina Faye Kemp
Wendy Eaton
Karen Lynn Zendrosky
Marie Ann Blee
Marcia Estelle Remick
Carol Elaine Donn
Evelyn Louise Davis
Teresa Lynn Rhodes
Wendy Brown Stevenson
Edna Christine Thorne
Cheryl Schille Wyant
Teresa Amanda Alfonso
Andria Ann Bailey
Lisa Jane Borden
Sandra Kaye Butler
Dorothy Mildred Clitheroe
Judy Lynn Davis
Karen Beth Kamsch
Julie Ann Moseley
Deborah Ann Quimby
Angela Sigrid Ramsey
Ann Marie Ellinwood
Lisa Renee Wilson
Robyn Ann Pettinato
Teresa Marie Byers

Thank you so much! What is sad....I almost have a picture of everyone in my brain of all the listed..

 

[Sweetluv]

I pray Othram can take on this case.
DNA will be the key in solving this IMO.

 

[Feme98]

Yes! @othram does such amazing work!

 

[lonewanderer]

So there is alot of mention on here about our girl having a bag.
I have never heard about that outside of here.
Is this certain? Only because, IMO, a girl..of any age..would carry something , if she was not local and didnt plan to be back by the end of the day, to put change of clothes, toiletries, ect in.
I dont recall the witnesses saying she had anything...some reports say carrying red sandals.
This is kinda important..no bag COULD mean she wasn't planning to be gone for long or was checked in to a motel.
Bag indicates overnight or longer.
Body was found with no clothes, sandals nearby, and what they think is her nylons to strangle.

This is interesting to me because of some information sandwiched within these lengthy threads.

So, at some point, she was seen and it appeared she had been sleeping (maybe) in a car and (highly likely) in her clothing.

I wonder if she just ditched someone and left whatever she brought with her, and if she didn't bring much to begin with.

We also don't know her exact age, and its likely she didn't plan it through like our adult minds might think to bring extra clothing, undies, socks, and hygeine.

 

[Nell91]

Forgive me for saying this, but I have a feeling that when she is ID'ed, there won't be a photo of her from life. I dont know why, I just do. Makes me sad.

 

[lonewanderer]

Forgive me for saying this, but I have a feeling that when she is ID'ed, there won't be a photo of her from life. I dont know why, I just do. Makes me sad.

Maybe not, it was 1980.

There is some super crazy statistic that I read years ago about how (something like) 90% of all pictures ever taken have been taken within 5 years of the statistic being presented.

They didn't have easy access to phone cameras or anything like that, so it would not be impossible to think.

Don't feel bad.

 

[Diavola]

Forgive me for saying this, but I have a feeling that when she is ID'ed, there won't be a photo of her from life. I dont know why, I just do. Makes me sad.

If there isn't I think people will dig up a class picture or something like that.