Found Deceased TN - Riley Strain, 22, missing after leaving bar, Nashville, 8 March 2024 #2

[TCorey]

Except he was out, not driving, but walking around for a while. This could have been prevented. For one, the bar should have a requirement, that they either get them an Uber , or an escort home. That’s not too much to ask, IMO.

I'm all for trying to prevent tragedy, but at some point adults have to be responsible for their own decisions. Now we're going to require the bars to pay for cars home for every drunk patron? And are we asking them to hold people against their will and force them into cars? Then the bars are responsible if anything happens in the taxi/Uber home (assault, accident, etc.).

This country needs a bigger conversation about drinking culture in general. Getting black out drunk is seen as just a normal part of the college experience with little discussion about the dangers around it, particulary for young men.

 

[SMK777]

I'm all for trying to prevent tragedy, but at some point adults have to be responsible for their own decisions. Now we're going to require the bars to pay for cars home for every drunk patron? And are we asking them to hold people against their will and force them into cars? Then the bars are responsible if anything happens in the taxi/Uber home (assault, accident, etc.).

This country needs a bigger conversation about drinking culture in general. Getting black out drunk is seen as just a normal part of the college experience with little discussion about the dangers around it, particulary for young men.

True.
Yesterday I read that Riley had taken a prior frat trip last year without incident, which is likely why no one was overly worried or expecting a mishap on this one. What a terrible twist of circumstances and fate.

 

[Curiousobserver]

I'm all for trying to prevent tragedy, but at some point adults have to be responsible for their own decisions. Now we're going to require the bars to pay for cars home for every drunk patron? And are we asking them to hold people against their will and force them into cars? Then the bars are responsible if anything happens in the taxi/Uber home (assault, accident, etc.).

This country needs a bigger conversation about drinking culture in general. Getting black out drunk is seen as just a normal part of the college experience with little discussion about the dangers around it, particulary for young men.

Amen-

 

[PommyMommy]

David Flagg, the incident commander with the United Cajun Navy, says they are working with law enforcement and there is no reason at this time to believe what happened to Riley Strain was a crime. @FOXNashville

https://twitter.com/x/status/1770446315979190420

 

[MollyHarps]

I'm all for trying to prevent tragedy, but at some point adults have to be responsible for their own decisions. Now we're going to require the bars to pay for cars home for every drunk patron? And are we asking them to hold people against their will and force them into cars? Then the bars are responsible if anything happens in the taxi/Uber home (assault, accident, etc.).

This country needs a bigger conversation about drinking culture in general. Getting black out drunk is seen as just a normal part of the college experience with little discussion about the dangers around it, particulary for young men.

I agree with you completely.

If bars had to pay for cars for every drunk person.. do you not think near the end of the night most customers would pretend to be crazily drunk to get a free ride home (I know in my younger days I would’ve I used to hate walking home after drinking! - these days I like to think I’m a little more sophisticated)

 

[SMK777]

David Flagg, the incident commander with the United Cajun Navy, says they are working with law enforcement and there is no reason at this time to believe what happened to Riley Strain was a crime. @FOXNashville

https://twitter.com/x/status/1770446315979190420

I’m really hoping he’s found soon. And an autopsy and toxicology will answer more questions.

 

[arielilane]

Don't bodies float when they have been in water?

Forensics will differ when someone dies in a body of water. moo

 

[nadia90]

If you have been following this case and have been watching all of the videos released by police you will notice in the most recent video when the police officer spoke to him he was able to respond well enough to lead me to believe that he was somewhat coherent. I definitely think he was intoxicated but still had somewhat of an awareness.

It seems as if he was intending to go to his hotel ‘tempo by Hilton’ but may have been heading towards a building called ‘your tempo’, possibly confusing the two.

It looks as if the area he was in was a fairly steep slope to navigate through with trees, bushes & trash to get to the river- it would be a challenge even for someone sober to get to the water. If he had gone towards the river it would be safe to assume that he would likely fall and possibly make commotion on his descent towards the river. I’m not totally sold on this theory, based on the information provided to the public.

I think he willingly got in a vehicle with someone with intent to go to the hotel because he did realize he was lost.

Is it possible for police to get a tower dump warrant without reasonable proof that there is foul play involved?

** I’m also very well aware they have much more information that will understandably, not be shared with the public at this point. Which could be the reason they are bringing a team in to search the water a bit more extensively.

No he definitely went in the water unfortunately

 

[amyb80]

Can anybody find the WZTV clip where they interviewed the homeless guy?

'We heard a commotion. He almost fell over': Man on seeing Riley Strain on last known path Is this it? All they show is his shoes and a kind of vague area he waves a walking stick when mentioning the bush but there is a fence end in the frame that can be seen. MOO

 

[arielilane]

@MNPDNashville

Our helicopters continue to fly over the Cumberland River in the ongoing search for Riley Strain. MNPD &
@NashvilleEOC boats were on the water again today. The Cheatham Co. Sheriff's Office is also assisting down river. See him? Pls call 615-862-8600.

10:29 PM · Mar 19, 2024

https://twitter.com/x/status/1770276354354827614

 

[arielilane]

@WSMV

Search efforts continue along the Cumberland River for missing college student, Riley Strain.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1770451846122889460

 

[shetalksinstereo]

I agree with you completely.

If bars had to pay for cars for every drunk person.. do you not think near the end of the night most customers would pretend to be crazily drunk to get a free ride home (I know in my younger days I would’ve I used to hate walking home after drinking! - these days I like to think I’m a little more sophisticated)

I live near the St. Lawrence River and there are many little tourists towns along there and in the summer, there are lots of people walking from bar to bar; however, their lodging may not be in the "downtown" area which is directly on the river banks. There is a local non-profit that operates a van who gives rides that is a free ride or donation based/pay-what-you-can situation. Chug Wagon This is in a town with a population of 1,700 people. In the summer they do 150+ rides a week!

It's too bad that a city known for night life doesn't have something like this!

 

[Sundog]

MAR 19, 2024

Why are Riley Strain tips going to Cold Case Unit voicemail?

Tips to Nashville police about the missing Riley Strain case are reportedly going to the Cold Case Unit voicemail.

www.newsnationnow.com

Tips to Nashville police about the missing Riley Strain case are reportedly going to the Cold Case Unit voicemail.

Sabrina Martin told NewsNation’s Ashleigh Banfield on Tuesday night that she believes she saw a homeless man wearing Strain’s shirt after he went missing, but she says she hasn’t been able to contact the correct authorities.

“I have not heard from the police,” Martin said on “Banfield.” “I have called. I have emailed local news stations. … I found the Crime Stoppers line. That lady did seem to take me seriously, but I have not heard anything back. She did not seem to be aware of Riley’s case.”

[...]

One of the key investigators on Riley's case is a Sargeant with the Cold Case Unit of MNPD. He spoke at the family's press conference and has been working closely with the family, along with a Detective with MNPD who was also at the family's press conference yesterday. He made it clear that he and his unit will stay on this case until they have solved it.

 

[DeDee]

From what I've gathered from Tempo's website if he are whoever paid for the room was part of the Hilton Honors Member reward program (which is free to join) they allow you to digitally check in and use a digital key with no need to carry a key with you and also allow you to share it with 4 people. I also read that 80% of Hilton Hotel customers use the digital check in with the digital key.

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Are you implying his travel companions are being misleading when they reported that he left his room key in the hotel room? I don't understand why they would tell us that they saw his room key if it wasn't true.

 

[Mimimom]

@WSMV

Search efforts continue along the Cumberland River for missing college student, Riley Strain.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1770451846122889460

Hoping today is the day Riley is found

 

[branmuffin]

I would have liked the bar’s “enforcer” to say to Riley’s group, this man needs to leave, which one or two of you are willing to go with him to make sure he gets home? OMO.

Calling a ride share is a great idea in concept but there is potential liability for the bar and possible risk for Riley’s safety with that solution, too. I’m sure we have all heard of crimes committed by imposter drivers and an occasional nefarious driver.

Sadly, I think the best option would have been help from a few of the “(frat) brothers.” MOO.

Even people sent off in an Uber can stop the ride when out of sight and return to the area. It's been done before. A party goer can have his keys taken away by homeowner and sent home in a cab. They get their extra set of keys and return and pick up their vehicle. Who's responsible then, the home owner or the drunk person? Liability ends for the bar when they ask the person to leave since the reason they ask them to leave is to protect themselves and their patrons from any liability that may stem from action instigated by the person kicked out of a bar.

I struggle to understand why the onus is always put on the bar so they should provide a babysitting area for drunks to dry out, or to call a cab and foot the bill, or to provide drinks and snacks for them to hasten their sobriety. It's obvious to me, strictly from a factual basis, that the bar cut Riley off and escorted him from the premises after purchasing one drink.

Not everyone who is drunk is visibly under the influence which makes it doubly hard for bartenders, bouncers and other patrons to know what level of inebriation someone is at. It was evident during the interaction of Riley and the street cop that he gave no indication how drunk he really was. So if we can excuse a cop for not recognizing the level of Riley's inebriation why do we expect a bar to? From okay to wasted can happen very quickly.

So maybe even the frat friend who escorted Riley to the exit had no idea how drunk Riley really was and that it was this other issue (which we can only guess at) that got him removed. If that's the case, why should the friend have left with him?

 

[SMK777]

I live near the St. Lawrence River and there are many little tourists towns along there and in the summer, there are lots of people walking from bar to bar; however, their lodging may not be in the "downtown" area which is directly on the river banks. There is a local non-profit that operates a van who gives rides that is a free ride or donation based/pay-what-you-can situation. Chug Wagon This is in a town with a population of 1,700 people. In the summer they do 150+ rides a week!

It's too bad that a city known for night life doesn't have something like this!

Yes, when I lived in New Jersey they had a van with dayglo colors that would stop at the bars and offer free rides, to avoid DUIs and accidents.

 

[JessG78]

Did she take a pic of the guy? Most phones have cans now. Seems if she were wanting to report it she’d take a photo?

I listened to her call. She said that she didn’t take a picture. She did reach out to another volunteer who was out there and often takes pictures. The other volunteer said she only had a picture of the man’s back.

When she was volunteering and saw the man in the shirt, she wasn’t aware of the situation with RS.

 

[Cryptic]

And what was that exactly? Pretty vague, huh?

In defense of bar employees (then again, I admit to knowing a few)....

Bars are not say, the Smallville bridge club held at the library activity room- light orderves to share sans alcohol. Everyone is friendly, polite and nobody (well almost) is under influence of a culturally accepted drug.

Unlike the bridge club, bar employees are very accustomed to putting up with a wide variety of poor behavior from humans. Mix alcohol with the wrong human and even nice guys can get "poor behavioring"- fast.

These same bar employees are reluctant to kick customers out. It can cause a scene- even with nice guys. It also costs a paying customer- and can cause an entire group of paying customers to leave if friends follow him or her out.

Mix that reluctance to kick people out with bar employees being accustomed to alot of well.... "human stunts", and.... one usually needs to try pretty hard to get kicked out of a bar. Warnings are usually given first.

In short, I doubt what ever he told the employee in his conversation or "conversation" would be mortifying unless it was pretty "over the top".

 

[Marie A]

After the presser yesterday, the MSM outlets are publishing misleading articles that make it seem as though the family has just now asked for the United Cajun Navy's help, but they've been a part of this for literally over a week, y'all. (Receipts below.)

As a someone local to this, I can't help but be frustrated at the media's attempts at creating spin and drama around this case. Everyone seems so quick to admonish LE in Nashville but the truth is, they are doing all they can. No amount of searching will be enough for a family who is desperate to find their child -- nor should it be! The more hands on deck, the better. But I'm not sure what more people expect.

I've also seen folks on social media and here asking about "where is the sonar" and "where are the drones". "Why did the search take 5 days to start?" And, friends!, the search along the water started as early as the 11th, less than 2 days after the report was made. And the gadgets have been out there since the beginning. You just aren't hearing about it.

I will say civilians finding a piece of evidence before LE is pretty embarrassing, but also, it happens all the time, and has happened in so many other cases. And besides that, shouldn't we just be happy someone is looking? Can't it be a community effort? I'm PRESSED about it. Anyway, this is all MOO.

I do think it's important to question LE mechanisms. We've seen in plenty of other cases how ego and procedure and bias can get in the way of closing a case. Criticism of our systems is good, but I also haven't seen any in this scenario that has been specific or based in truth. So for anyone who has criticisms of the MNPD in this case, I would love to discuss (civilly and curiously!) more about it.

I'd also be more than happy to provide a detailed timeline of the organized search efforts if that would be useful.

edit to add: I would love for TBI to get involved in this, just to have more boots on the ground. Nashville has all kinds of crap going on daily on top of this massive, pressing case, and again, the more help people are willing to give, the better, IMO

And, receipts as promised --

MNPD on March 11 with a helicopter and on the ground.
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Post about the Cajun Navy being asked to join the search on the 11th
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Excellent post- thank you!