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Looking at the ceiling - could be to stop herself from breaking down. We can't really make any inferences really. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Yes. No trial if guilty plea - case is adjourned for sentencing... unless it's straightforward enough to sentence then. Re caps and gowns - these are often removed for minors. Even Defendants. It helps them get the best evidence. We have to remember, innocent until proven guilty and she still...

A lot of Defendants appear via video link for the first hearing at crown court if they have been remanded into custody. It's easier for them to just go to the video link room at the prison rather than be transported. The first hearing at crown court is called Plea and Trial Preparation Hearing...

Dress style? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I feel sorry for them all. I'm thinking the 15yr old must have been in a state to have been taken in by the couple. We don't know what's happened, but I'm just assuming some kind of mental breakdown. My gut feeling is this wasn't a planned murder and "it just happened". The family must be in...

We will see tomorrow. The judge may decide to restrict reporting, s/he may not. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thank you for sharing this. It must have been such a horrible time in your life and I'm sure it's still hard now. These incidents do happen to 'normal' families. I am aware of one incident in my town which resulted in one teenage sister stabbing her sister in the midst of an argument and...

Me too. The finder has the technical ability to post on Facebook, but is unable to identify that it is only the back of a phone that she's found. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

The scan looks strange to me. Mine had my name, hospital and other numbers on it. Maybe it's just the different hospital area. Can anyone else confirm that their scan looked like the one the gf is showing? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

MIS will be registered with the Information Commissioners Office and will be working within the law. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I can't see the homeless guy being undercover as the police wouldn't have mentioned him at all. They would have just taken the intell without need of mentioning the homeless guy to the media. Edited to add - if he was an undercover police officer then the police have procedure in these kind of...

:( this is getting like a big mystery for us to solve. It's a bit odd with live q&a etc. Just want him to be found. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I look forward to seeing it as I also have a theory on that. <modsnip> Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

So family have confirmed it. Just my line of thinking is that he has been referred to as a military cop. He will have awareness of procedure. I'm LE and know procedure and know how to do it if I wanted to disappear. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Ok everyone, I've just had a thought... who has confirmed that the Nokia Lumia (or however it is spelt) is C's phone? It's a pretty old phone for a young guy to have, especially one with flash clothes and a flash car. Most young lads have iPhones or Samsung phones. Maybe it was thrown in the...

Re the phone. Police will have already done a charter request on the usage which will give them all the calls and texts sent via the network. If he was using a 3rd party app such as WhatsApp then this won't show up. Same if he had an iPhone and used iMessage as opposed to SMS. Sent from my...

I was the same. :( I almost now feel that they do really think someone has kidnapped him and she was appealing to him. It all seems very structured - the words, the emotions, the video - structured to appeal to whoever has him or someone who they may have said something to. I must admit I...

Thanks. N is on now. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Are we allowed to discuss this morning on here or will there be another thread like the FB one? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I think the Police have more of an idea as to what's happened than they are revealing. It can't be easy either with N being a cop. Things are always harder to investigate when a bobby or their family is involved. I've not known a misper have this much interest on such little fact either. Sent...