Found Alive CA - Sherri Papini, 34, Redding, 2 November 2016 - #23

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PoirotryInMotion said:
That's a pretty long, fast stride for someone running barefoot across a road and parking lot...one small piece of gravel on that asphalt, and I'd be shorted up immediately, (especially if coming down on it on my heel). Hard to tell about shoes or not in the videotape images.
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Except when adrenaline is high. You often don't feel the pain. I've experienced that myself, full-out running on gravel barefoot in an emergency. It's like the pain signals do not reach your brain or are blocked by fear or adrenaline. I once ran barefoot through thistles and thorns to catch my two dogs who had gotten out and were on the side of a busy highway. I didn't feel the pain at all until I got them home. Then it hit me, and was time to pull thorns out of my feet and be the biggest wimp about it.

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SpanishInquisition said:
https://www.nbcsandiego.com/news/ca...ifornia-Woman-Who-went-Missing-403453266.html
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Interesting. From the link:
Shasta County Sheriff Tom Bosenko says Sherri Papani flagged down a passing motorist despite her hands being bound. Responding California Highway Patrol officers reported that she was chained to a heavy object, but authorities have not elaborated on the nature of her restraints
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For me, given the choice between what a reporter says and what LE actually says I go with LE. What LE actually said is from the CHP officer on the scene to dispatch here;
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article117588963.html

This is a partial transcript of radio traffic between a dispatcher and Yolo sheriff’s deputies in the early morning hours of Thanksgiving, Thursday, Nov. 24, 2016.
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@ 0.02 the dispatcher says "CHP is on scene and advised that she is chained to something."

As it turns out the only chain was around her waist. There is no "anchored to a heavy object". Reporters embellish things But to me it's like the hose clamps. Some outlets report hose clamps on her ankles, in other reports they are on her wrists.

When the news outlets don't get the facts straight it becomes more difficult to discern what is believable. When we @ WS ignore using links then some mis-remembered details grow legs and become new facts.
WS requires links for anything stated as fact. We can't be responsible for reporter error which is why many of us give more weight to direct LE quotes.

Mostly JMO
 
JaimeInLA said:
That case is different because there was a motive. She was sexually assaulted. There was no discernible motive to abduct SP.

SP also has a documented history of harming herself and blaming it on other people. Three separate family members called the police on her on four different occasions because they were so exasperated by her histrionic behavior. I don't think AH has that same history.
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She didnt. Poor thing.

natsound said:
http://www.redding.com/story/news/l...nears-phones-been-ringing-off-hook/795090001/

"The younger of the women then escorted Papini out of a room, put her in a vehicle and drove along a winding road, eventually dropping her on the side of the road, Jackson said Papini told investigators."

This is all SP is gonna cough up. And blood, according to KP.
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I do wonder if she was clean when found and if her explanation was they let her shower. But why? They beat her daily. Cut her hair to "shame her". Starved her. Kept her tied up and had hose clamps to cause her pain. Branded her to "send a message."

But no one sexually assaulted her and she wasn't rented out as a prostitute. So why on earth would they allow her to shower?

Makes no sense.

They're something big missing from this story.
 
MsFacetious said:
BEFORE. Immediately upon the girls recovery. It was released to try and identify her abductor. Also, she was sexually assaulted. 6 years old. Quite an amazing little girl.
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I remember that case. Such nerve and bravery on that kid.
 
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article117110028.html At this link you can listen to a partial clip of the dispatch call from the CHP where they say that she is chained to something. It does not make sense to me that they would be saying she is chained to something, if the something is "herself".

The second interesting thing out of this call is that the caller is saying that she is on the northbound side of the I5 Freeway, to the south of Yolo. This is confusing to me, because when I look at google maps and the location of the Jehovah's Witness hall in relation to Yolo, I don't see how it can be described as anything other than north-west of Yolo. She must have had to run a long way down the freeway to be in a position where she can be described as "south of Yolo".
 
gitana1 said:
She didnt. Poor thing.



I do wonder if she was clean when found and if her explanation was they let her shower. But why? They beat her daily. Cut her hair to "shame her". Starved her. Kept her tied up and had hose clamps to cause her pain. Branded her to "send a message."

But no one sexually assaulted her and she wasn't rented out as a prostitute. So why on earth would they allow her to shower?

Makes no sense.

They're something big missing from this story.
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BBM

B.O. got to be too much for them? :dunno: Sorry, I couldn’t resist. :D

But seriously, they went to a lot of trouble for 22 days torturing her for no apparent reason or gain for them. It really doesn’t compute unless there was a revenge motive (Sherri would know in that case) or they were sadists simply looking for someone to torture and drove a long way to find a victim.
 
AnaPisces said:
Exactly. Was it even a house? If they had fast food, what fast food was it, from where?

And I'm stuck on this journey. As you said, surely they could narrow it down. I imagine that her number 1 priority wasn't to count the seconds from the time she got in that vehicle to the time she got out but she would know if she was in the car for an hour or less for instance.

It makes zero sense for LE to not release details of what she remembers of where she was held. Unless she's not offering anything up. It does seem as if LE could somewhat trace the steps though with a few details, like the ones you have pointed out.
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It makes a lot of sense why LE wouldn't release such info. It would risk the integrity of the investigation. Holding stuff back is how they sift through the crazies who want attention and people with reql
info that matches.

bears10 said:
Same. She remembers cradling a blanket and rocking it as if it was her daughter, slamming young latina's head into the toilet, hearing a gun shot which may or may not have been young latina murdering old latina.... but what about the things that can help LE possible identify her captors and where she was held?
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Eeesh. Really good points. And I think that's what troubles LE. She doesn't remember the important stuff. Suddenly she's too traumatized to recall or had her head down all the time so can't remember or whatever.

deoneta said:
As usual, all I know about sex trafficking crimes is from ID TV. I have seen a few cases where women were used to "recruit" or control victims. While it might be rare, I don't think it's impossible. What makes me have my doubts about the sex trafficking angle is the history of self harm/family issues.

The only thing that seems certain is that somebody else is involved for SP to be found 150 miles from home. I would think it would be easy to eliminate the spouse as that person but what person or persons could it be?
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I've seen the same things. I've never heard of a case where they're not raped like almost immediately.

cattlekate said:
Excellent post. These are such basic questions. Did LE ask them? Did Sherri answer any of them?
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Of course LE asked. The damn FBI is even involved. She has given nothing of substance. That's the weird part of this case.
 
The occasional off topic post is okay, but 25 off topic posts have just been removed and I don't have the time to go further back.

Please stay on topic folks.

Thanks.

 
erinp said:
http://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article117110028.html At this link you can listen to a partial clip of the dispatch call from the CHP where they say that she is chained to something. It does not make sense to me that they would be saying she is chained to something, if the something is "herself".

The second interesting thing out of this call is that the caller is saying that she is on the northbound side of the I5 Freeway, to the south of Yolo. This is confusing to me, because when I look at google maps and the location of the Jehovah's Witness hall in relation to Yolo, I don't see how it can be described as anything other than north-west of Yolo. She must have had to run a long way down the freeway to be in a position where she can be described as "south of Yolo".
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That is because from the Kingdom Hall Sherri went south along Highway 99 until she got to Highway 17. Then she went west about 100 feet and ran down the exit ramp from I-5 and went a little further south along the I-5 North shoulder to where she tried to flag down traffic.

In the video the camera is looking ESE. The street lights you see are the street lights in front of the houses on Highway 17 in Yolo proper.
 
I once lost a lot of weight because I was sick in hospital and couldn't eat. Lost about 40 lbs (down to 115 lbs). I had no energy when I was finally released.
I could barely walk a short distance.
She was down to 87 pounds, if I read correctly, when she was released.
Yet, she runs consistently quite well on the video...not just in one direction, but in the opposite direction (for whatever reason she turned around, to keep running).
Seems weird to me.
 
Jethro4WS said:
That is because from the Kingdom Hall Sherri went south along Highway 99 until she got to Highway 17. Then she went west about 100 feet and ran down the exit ramp from I-5 and went a little further south along the I-5 North shoulder to where she tried to flag down traffic.

In the video the camera is looking ESE. The street lights you see are the street lights in front of the houses on Highway 17 in Yolo proper.
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What you've said is all true. None of it changes the fact that the caller on the radio said she was found "south of Yolo". Look on google maps. The location of the kingdom hall and overpass cannot in anyway be described as south of Yolo.
 
Weight loss is totally variable. I was 100 lbs and could run 5 km (2 miles?) easily. I would have found it easy to drop to around 90 lbs without eating. It was a matter of being disciplined. Was I anorexic - yeah probably, but weight control is easy when you are in that zone. I don't doubt SP could run like the wind at 87 lbs - (but also remember this is what KP says..... has LE verified this?) POW have run for their lives I am sure at lesser BMI's. I was always freezing cold at low weight and wore a cardigan almost always but never unfit and unable to sprint. Just saying...
 
JaimeInLA said:
I wonder why local media have not done a freedom of information act request to get photos of the brand.
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I'm sure some of them have submitted a request, but they can be turned down, and then the news org. would have to challenge that legally.
 
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