2010.01.04 Baez and Baden on In Session

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Forgive me for not remembering the guys' name, but IIRC, a forensic pathologist from Michigan came to conduct the autopsy shortly after Christmas last year. His son was on NG I believe. I wouldn't know if HL also attended, but the son - who is also in the same field, indicated his dad had flown in and out within a day or so. From what I understand, Lee is a dna specialist and crime reconstruction analyst. I'm not sure he would have been the foremost person to look at the autopsy photos or analyze the remains. But I imagine one of our resident SME's will help straighten me out if I got that wrong! Meantime, I'll try to find the Dr's name who did view Caylee's remains for the defense.

UNIDENTIFIED MALE: The skeletonized remains of little Caylee found just yards from her own home have now reportedly gone through a second autopsy. Forensic scientist Dr. Henry Lee says the skull and bones of little Caylee were examined by Dr. Werner Spitz.


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HENRY LEE, PH.D., FORENSIC SCIENTIST, DEFENSE EXPERT: Well, I`ve just confirmed, you know, we understand Dr. Werner Spitz did conduct a second autopsy about five, six days ago.


http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/07/ng.01.html

Dr. Werner Spitz practices Forensic Pathology and Anatomic Pathology in Saint Clair Shores, Michigan
http://www.physicianreportcards.com...dr-md-reports/Dr-Werner-Spitz-MD-62412C47.cfm
 
Okay now that I've read the whole thread, I'd like to say that I definitely should read through the whole thing before posting links lol :)

Thank you to those who found and posted the info before I read thoroughly. :)
 
Kathy Reichs the forensic anthropologist has said on national TB that she will be called to testify for the defense, but she wasn't on Baez's witness list. She has been on the shows discussing this and coincidentally her released a book, 206 Bones.[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N6vq5agMedQ[/ame]
 
Thank goodness "Todd Black" isn't still talking to the media. That guy was out of control.www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,469545,00.html

I found one good spot. Black said EquuSearch volunteers were the only ones who hadn't previously scoured the wooded lot.

....Baez keeps claiming they did. The more these lawyers talk and their reps talk the worse it gets.

In comparison he makes Baez seemed reserved and professional.You just can't make this stuff up!
 
Not only that, but IRCC he took pictures of the scene from afar and the defense made a stink about wanting to be included before it was determined it was Caylee and the judge shot that down but ruled the state to notify the defense when they were done and the state did and turned the crime scene over to the defense and it was a no show, right? I think on a media appearance or two and maybe in one of their filings; they stated the reason they didn't do an investigation was the crime scene was destroyed. If memory serves me this was the basis of one of the motions to dismiss the case by the defense. It was always precarious to me that they didn't fully avail themselves to that opportunity. It was as if they walked up, said well this is ruined we can't find anything now and walked away. If I had been on that team, I would have combed the site as thoroughly as the state did. Sometimes actions speak louder than words in the media!

IMHO, etc...

Bold mine.

Well, that would've cost them money, doncha know...I really can't see Baez, Baden, and Lee on their hands and knees digging through the crime scene, and who would pay for someone else to do it? :rolleyes:
 
Dr Lee said on Nancy Grace that he did it pro bono.
I am trying to find out if he came back and observed an autopsy. Does anyone know?

Bold mine.

Lee also said there was meat and cheese in the bag in the trunk...so I wouldn't believe anything he said, myself.
 
I would think if he were really interested in KC's defense he would have been back. He has not so it will be interesting to see if he does testify for the defense. I guess we will know shortly when the witness list comes out. Does anyone know if we will actually see a copy of the witness list? Dr. Lee also lists a fee of $12,500 for travel expense fees from Connecticut. That is for lectures and probably does not include a fee for doing the lecture.



Geesh! What does he fly down in?...Air Force One? :rolleyes:
 
Bold mine.

Lee also said there was meat and cheese in the bag in the trunk...so I wouldn't believe anything he said, myself.

Yes he was already using the Anthony spin - he was on Nancy Grace saying the maggots could come from pizza, meat, etc, but he didn't know because he didn't analyze it. Too bad this liar didn't read the part where no pizza, meat, cheese, etc was found in the trunk.
 
They are also convinced they are being listened in on during their time with KC. (clicking noise mentioned by JB) This is a huge conspiracy. Orange Co. LE, FBI, Oak Ridge Labs, Jail personal.... all in on it. :banghead:.


I think it is their guilt they are hearing instead of a clicking in the speakers. They probably try to grab a hug, kiss, ETC, and are afraid someone is going to catch them at it.
 
Beth discussing the judge's ruling, check fraud trial going forward on the 25th, etc.

If she is found guilty in the check fraud trial, it can be used against her in the murder case, but may not because if ever the fraud trial were reversed on appeal, and it had been relied on in the murder case that verdict could be in jeoprody. Very unlikely, she continues.


I don't understand why Casey is going to trial for cashing Amy's checks. There is a video of her cashing one and buying stuff with the money. How do you beat a video? I wish she should just be honest for one time in her life and be responsible for what she did. Kind of late in the day for that though. She's done the worst thing a person can do in my book anyway. Even fessing up about the murder isn't going to help her now. Burn Casey Burn.
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0812/15/ng.01.html

GRACE: Back to Dr. Henry Lee, who, as you all know, is a famed forensic scientist on the Anthony defense team. Dr. Lee, I`ve just got to ask you, you know, tot mom Casey Anthony was siphoning gasoline from her family`s car to fill up her own tank. How the heck are you getting paid? I`m sure you`re costing a pretty penny. Dr. Lee does not come cheap.

LEE: No, we did not get any pay for that and for -- I`ll say, you know, this country, as you know, everybody entitled a defense. And many forensic experts, we do pro bono cases and that`s our obligation to our profession. As an expert, we look at evidence, doesn`t matter inculpatory, exculpatory, we report (ph) as it is. I don`t think should be labeled as a defense expert going to just for defense. Many time, found more evidence, inculpatory evidence, than the police found. There -- you know, case history, case example, many time we`re allowed to work on the case together. Many of my cases, I let the defense expert observe. It`s nothing wrong.

GRACE: So Dr. Lee...

LEE: Nothing unusual.

GRACE: Dr. Lee, are you telling me that you are working on the case pro bono, for free?

LEE: Yes.


I will never in a million years understand why anyone in this world would want to work on Casey Anthony's case bro bono. If I was a attorney I wouldn't work on it and get paid :furious: Are all of the people willing to tie up months and months of their lives and professions just to work on this lying, manipulative, child killers case? Most of them must be getting paid but I would sure like to know who is footing the bill.
 
They all have books out they are peddling and to remain a high profile lawyer you must stay in the news. When the Anna Nicole trial was going on one of the lawyers actually said that on national TV, that of course you do a pro bono case when there is this level of coverage. One cannot buy that kind of advertising and your name stays in the news for years , forever attached to the case. In the thread that has our questions for lawyers I have all the books there by the defense experts.


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Baez has been trying this case in the media from jump.[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NXF16vTQBxE[/ame]
 
http://transcripts.cnn.com/transcripts/0812/15/ng.01.html

if i may: I'm "translating" this gem of a quote because it has a "whole lotta truth goin' on"! (as you might guess, my comments are in the bold and then the underlined) and yeah, a bit snarky!:banghead:

grace: Back to dr. Henry lee...

Lee: No, we did not get any pay for that and for dah! Okay, we'll "buy" that for now (as of the date he stated it!-- i`ll say, you know, this country, as you know, everybody entitled a defense. dah! No kidding< sher"r"ock! and many forensic experts, we do pro bono cases and that`s our obligation (ummm, really????) to our profession. As an expert, we look at evidence, doesn`t matter inculpatory, exculpatory, we report (ph) as it is. hello!!!!! This is the absolute truth of the matter< now the crux of the story is......will your report be used by the side that is "paying" your fee? i don`t think should be labeled as a defense expert going to just for defense. great point, henry the trick is who is going to introduce the work product????? He/she who paid, he/she who enters the discovery into evidence gets to "use" the information, otherwise if it is "not so good for the defense case", they can bury it" but the prosecution, heck everything is available to the defense including bench notes with grocery lists and recipes~. many time, found more evidence, inculpatory evidence, than the police found. lol yep, and somehow those were cases when hl was not a defense paid observer/assistant/expert/forensic specialist. there -- you know, case history, case example, many time we`re allowed to work on the case together. Many of my cases, i let the defense expert observe. anybody else getting the distinct pout here? The "great one" was not permitted on the immediate days after the skeleton discovery to cavort thru the crime scene nor did anybody from hicksville, florida aka orlando ask for his expert advice on how to run the scene! it`s nothing wrong. absolutely correct, there is nothing wrong with allowing members of the defense team experts to observe/witness when the victim is known and they have legal standing.


most missing children cases which is what baez claimed this case was do not have a forensic anthropologist, a crime scene specialist/analyst/re-constructionist, a dna & body fluid physiologist and a board-certified anatomical, clinical and forensic pathologist



grace: So dr. Lee...

Lee: Nothing unusual.

Grace: Dr. Lee, are you telling me that you are working on the case pro bono, for free?

Lee: Yes.

sure he was! At that time but now???????? Me no sabe nada!!
 
I don't get it . . . what is the point of these media blitz's? To keep the case front and center so he has time on stage? If not fame or $ then why would he do these shows? He never says anything of value for his client - so again what was his point?

Exactly what you suggested: public relations. (while keeping 'the secret defense' secret... :innocent:)

JMHO
 
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