In fact, if there was nothing incriminating found during the search that should be in the defense's favor. IMO
INAL, however I would argue that a search warrant was illegally obtained and look here, nothing was found! The defense team and/or people supporting the defense team is accusing LE of illegal actions, torture of innocent RA, conspiracy, etc. Defense claims nothing was found that connect RA to the crime scene, OK then this should be their proof. Why would the defense want their proof thrown out?
I don’t have a link but the one from HB was amazing. IMOHa! Does anyone have a link for the letters put on record today. One of them is a classic LOL!
Whether there was something found or not is not the issue.
The issue is LE cannot obtain a search warrant illegally. Period.
Ha! Does anyone have a link for the letters put on record today. One of them is a classic LOL!
HB will give many a good laugh. Thanks for posting.
HB will give many a good laugh. Thanks for posting.
Wow, people really do this?!? Write to the Judge I mean, obviously they do, but wow. I didn't know this was a thing.
Perhaps because he thought that a CO seemed less threatening than the sheriff?Why did he talk to a CO on a parkinglot outside the store? The sheriff's office is only 0,2 mile from CVS, a 4 minute walk.
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YUP. Maybe. MOO.Perhaps because he thought that a CO seemed less threatening than the sheriff?
YUP!! These Odinites are not only the guilty murderers in the eyes of the D, they're also the not-at-all very bright murderers who brought phones. But that was okay because of a corrupt LE coverup and plot against RA.One thing that struck me today while rereading motions of the last week is just how focused Defense is on phones. Phone pings, geofencing and phone extractions.
iMO it’s all misdirection to cause a hubbub with no real merit.
Defense wants us to believe that Odinists brought their phones with them to commit this horrible crime. They want us to believe that BH and JM and PW all brought their phones to a crime and LE just overlooked/deleted/covered up evidence of this. They went to great lengths to create alibis but brought their traceable phones.
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So with Franks 4.0 they extended the area the phones were detected and extended the time window.
The last place the girls were seen was at the trailhead entrance or by BB as she went back to her car? This isn’t clear but it’s definitely further than 100 ft from the final crime scene.
Extending the window to 3:57pm would also include the appearance of DG among other innocent trail walkers. So the additional phones on the trails does not lend to additional perpetrators.
But none of this matters because they state very clearly that none of these phones were RA’s.
So again I have to wonder why they keep focusing on phones when their presence doesn’t lend to guilt and their absence doesn’t lead to innocence.
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https://www.scribd.com/document/728390392/Defendant-s-4th-Franks-Motion
There could be any number of reasons why the girls slowed down after the 2:07pm picture of Abigail Williams. One thing I wanted to know is if Liberty German took any more pictures of Abby walking across the bridge after 2:07pm?There are some great videos out there of brave folks walking across the bridge. The rails become more deteriorated towards the middle of the bridge, and the height over water looks scarier. I can see why someone would slow down as they crossed.
I think, RA did it to show: look, I'm casually doing it, no big deal. Just walking around the corner and telling the DD, that you were one of the people, who were also in the MHB area. Not that LE has to worry further about something so meaningless. An upright citizen urgently needs to help, stealing away from the workplace, so that LE don't waste its time, these plagued officers. Better for me, RA, telling the DD, than suddenly have someone in uniform coming to my house, where my wife and daughter could be present. - MOOWhy did he talk to a CO on a parkinglot outside the store? The sheriff's office is only 0,2 mile from CVS, a 4 minute walk.
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I can imagine, RA was tripped the easier, because his wife sat in the hallway and waited for him. Probably he didn't know, what to tell her now, that the interrogation dragged on. That must have made him really nervous. MOOYes it’s classic adaption IMO
Of course defense wants us to think DD misremembered or misunderstood the initial interview in early days.
Fortunately there are multiple witnesses that lock him into that 130-4pm time period.
I do think the interview in 2022 went badly and I do think he was tripped. From the small excerpts that have been presented in motions. I see defensive language, threats and distractions and doubling down by RA. None of which aligns with his “cooperative, concerned citizen” image that is being sold by defense.
All my opinion
Indeed, the letter from the big (fake) Ham is more parody ... a tit for tat ... to balance out last week's entry from Lance. Poor Ham never beat the great defense attorney Perry Mason. Not once! Oh the sarcasm! At least JG has a matched pair of extreme zoo-tuby social media bias: one from Ham and one from Lance.
Honestly, I don't approve of the public, docketed mocking of the Court, the Officers of the Court, career practitioners, the process, or this difficult matter. But given Lance's nonsense made the docket last week, it seems only fair that one of each extreme "humorous rant" is memorialized on the docket. Also, my approval is of zero consequence. We all know this. (Especially since I'm still snorting at Cinco de Mayo and the Sabbath. I cannot help it. P.S. .. Hamilton Burger lived in black and white in my grandma's tv. Don't tell anyone! lolol.)
But this ISN'T a game, it's real life. The Court and its Officers should be treated with respect regardless of personal feelings. This 'write the Judge game' started by SM Defense zombies is not funny, not effective, and truly a mocking farce to the sanctity of The Court, the Judicial System and most importantly..Abby, Libby and their families. You know, the innocent murdered victims here.Indeed, the letter from the big (fake) Ham is more parody ... a tit for tat ... to balance out last week's entry from Lance. Poor Ham never beat the great defense attorney Perry Mason. Not once! Oh the sarcasm! At least JG has a matched pair of extreme zoo-tuby social media bias: one from Ham and one from Lance.
Honestly, I don't approve of the public, docketed mocking of the Court, the Officers of the Court, career practitioners, the process, or this difficult matter. But given Lance's nonsense made the docket last week, it seems only fair that one of each extreme "humorous rant" is memorialized on the docket. Also, my approval is of zero consequence. We all know this. (Especially since I'm still snorting at Cinco de Mayo and the Sabbath. I cannot help it. P.S. .. Hamilton Burger lived in black and white in my grandma's tv. Don't tell anyone! lolol.)
Agreed, I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't other pictures or video splices.There could be any number of reasons why the girls slowed down after the 2:07pm picture of Abigail Williams. One thing I wanted to know is if Liberty German took any more pictures of Abby walking across the bridge after 2:07pm?
I think the pace of the bridge walk may have been dictated by Abby as it appears Libby was very comfortable with walking on the Monon High Bridge in front of Abby. I sometimes wonder if Abby even knew Libby was taking that picture of her on the bridge?
As for Richard Allen, if he spoke to the conservation officer on a date after the date LE released the first audio clip of the killer's voice to the public, then he is a very confident killer. And he confessed multiple times too.
Makes sense if he didn't want to step foot in the police station. I still wonder about the circumstances of the DD interview. Was it set up by a phone call by RA to the tip line, the police station itself? Was it RA that said I get off work at a certain time and DD showed up then? Or lije another poster mentioned, maybe LE had peolle out in high foot traffic areas of town and when RA came out from CVS he was approached by DD or vice versa?Exactly!! Right!!! Just pop on in and tell them you were there. But no! He meets a CO in the parking lot of a grocery store. Makes no sense whatsoever.
ExactlyIn fact, if there was nothing incriminating found during the search that should be in the defense's favor. IMO
INAL, however I would argue that a search warrant was illegally obtained and look here, nothing was found! The defense team and/or people supporting the defense team is accusing LE of illegal actions, torture of innocent RA, conspiracy, etc. Defense claims nothing was found that connect RA to the crime scene, OK then this should be their proof. Why would the defense want their proof thrown out?