Found Deceased AL - Kamille "Cupcake" McKinney, 3, kidnapped from birthday party, Birmingham, 12 Oct 2019 #3

[Momof4RN]

Did they say they know who the second person is, who is a suspect, and they want to talk to the first person who walked by, or do I have that backwards?

2nd person is a suspect. 1st person wanted for questioning. Everyone is considered a POI at this point.

 

[MsBetsy]

Wheres the other child from the video?

They said they have talked to her parents.

 

[alyssa5597]

Dud they actually say the time stamp is wrong? If it's correct, then she was actually abducted about 7:25 PM.

Yes, the police chief said to make note of the time stamp being off by 37 minutes before they even played the video.

 

[Simply Southern]

Does that apply to an active missing child who we r trying to find? The title of the thread has her name in large print. Seems if anyone involved in her abduction happens to be reading here we would want them to know who we are talking about and pleading to. Moo

This post lands at random.

Please remember to use initials, especially so in the case of a minor child. If it's in MSM, there's nothing we can do about that, but please replace names with initials when bringing the info to WS.

Thanks.

 

[MFH]

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Video posted here

 

[n4k]

WOW, I've not seen this? Great find !!!

Can you link the source for me, I really want to read this?

Thanks so much!!!

Imo

This doesn't specify two hours, I may have read that on sm, but there was a definite delay in reporting according to LE.
Search for Kamille McKinney expanded to surrounding states

"Smith said the multi-hour delay between Kamille’s abduction to when an AMBER Alert was sent was due to a delay between the abduction and when the kidnapping was reported to law enforcement. "

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Wheres the other child from the video?

He said the other child has been identified and we have spoken with her mother but we don’t want to bring another three year olds name out.

Stating a grid search in advance in an area sure gives the perp a heads up or could be a totally planned attempt by LE to flush the perp. Bet that area is under HEAVY surveillance. MOO

He said they are searching with dogs first.,

 

[CSIDreamer]

Dear Lord. 2 little kids could have went missing instead of 1.

 

[MsBetsy]

2nd person is a suspect. 1st person wanted for questioning. Everyone is considered a POI at this point.

Ok, thanks. Just making sure. I tend to get things backwards sometimes.

So the second person is a suspect. Looks like he's wearing bulky clothes and maybe a hoodie?
I guess he is a different person than the man who was arrested?

Imo

 

[oviedo]

Yes, the police chief said to make note of the time stamp being off by 37 minutes before they even played the video.

so is it 7:24 plus 37 minutes or minus 37 minutes?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Great work... chief seemed like he didn't want to say where that was from. I almost got the feel it could be a city camera or police purposes camera.

From the video that was shown (from the live presser), judging by the truck and white structure in the video, I *think* it matches this location. The area from the video appears to be in or near a parking lot tucked in between 41st Pl N and 42nd Pl N. MOO

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[alyssa5597]

so is it 7:24 plus 37 minutes or minus 37 minutes?

He didn't say but I am guessing it is plus 37 minutes based on the time the AA gives for when she went missing IMO.

 

[Gardener1850]

Did they say they know who the second person is, who is a suspect, and they want to talk to the first person who walked by, or do I have that backwards?

Yes, that is how I heard it too. One man walked on by the children. The second man came up to the children and talked to them and the children followed him. They know the identity of the second man and he is a suspect. They are looking to identify the first man who walked by the children because he may have information for LE. They are not calling the first man a suspect. (Although the chief may have slipped up and said "suspects" at one point, I don't think he meant to call the first man a suspect). MOO.

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Was it said what the kids were picking up on ground? Was candy thrown down to pick up or did it just look like they were picking up stuff?

 

[rainynights]

The video was recovered from a surveillance camera within the Tom Brown Housing complex at about the same time as Kamille Mckinney was reported missing.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=1545103365645067

 

[MsBetsy]

Dear Lord. 2 little kids could have went missing instead of 1.

Yes. Interesting they took Cupcake only. I wonder if she was targeted or they just took her because it was more convenient at the time.
Imo

 

[alyssa5597]

Was it said what the kids were picking up on ground? Was candy thrown down to pick up or did it just look like they were picking up stuff?

He only said they were playing in the background.

 

[oviedo]

He didn't say but I am guessing it is plus 37 minutes based on the time the AA gives for when she went missing IMO.

so if what I heard correctly regarding her being kidnapped just minutes later - who was actually there to witness this? 8:01pm? and then a few minutes later - so say 5 ? so 806pm? maybe the first man who walked by saw something and is afraid to come forward? or isn't even aware he saw something at all since he simply walked by?

 

[diggndeeperstill]

Ok, thanks. Just making sure. I tend to get things backwards sometimes.

So the second person is a suspect. Looks like he's wearing bulky clothes and maybe a hoodie?
I guess he is a different person than the man who was arrested?

Imo

agree... almost like he was big as well with hood or full long hair, maybe?

 

[mjp1228]

Ah hah! a legitimate job - so he could have a 401K account depending on the employer - we can sleuth him anyone find out where he works yet? - but then how can he have a job and be indigent? how does that work in AL?

Could be working a minimum wage job while having tons of debt already? Credit cards, child support?