Armchair Psych Profile and Treatment

Discussion in 'Movie Theater Massacre in Colorado' started by JBean, Jul 26, 2012.

  1. HastingsChi

    HastingsChi Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,190
    Likes Received:
    98
    Trophy Points:
    48
    The Joker thing is the easy, spoon fed explanation that is easy for the mouthbreathers in the public to buy whereas the Holmes character is so much more complicated and complex to understand...

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2
     


  2. newsleuther

    newsleuther New Member

    Messages:
    217
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Agreed.

    There's also the fact that he did not act like the Joker whatsoever prior, during, or after the shooting.
     
  3. songline

    songline New Member

    Messages:
    20,159
    Likes Received:
    48
    Trophy Points:
    0
    He did not require being arrested he required a 911 call to be admitted into a hospital for an involuntary mental exam.
    Police cannot do that his therapist could have and should have.
     
  4. songline

    songline New Member

    Messages:
    20,159
    Likes Received:
    48
    Trophy Points:
    0

    I do not care what shadow has to say about it. I feel very strongly that it was miss handled.

    Police cannot commit you for mental evaluation unless they were there to see why he should be committed.
    His therapist should have committed him against his will.
     
  5. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

    Messages:
    25,472
    Likes Received:
    10,659
    Trophy Points:
    113
    What is amazing to me is the hair is last on my list. It started as the date time etc, then the comment i am joker (you doubt ok) but in getting more and more into it my lord there are so many things.

    THe gas canasiters, the costume, (not bullet proof stuff a vest), the telling the cops about the apt just like joker, the sex posts (tie into porn theatre), oppsss did not have superman poster(!)

    So are you saying that this is a mass murder, peroid wherein it would have happened anywhere ?
     
  6. newsleuther

    newsleuther New Member

    Messages:
    217
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The smoke/gas canisters? Nothing to do with joker. Joker occasionally used laughing gas, not tear gas/smoke grenades.

    Costume? Not related to the joker at all. The joker does not wear a black assault vest, or black at all, in fact, he wears colorful outfits.

    Sex posts on AdultFriendFinder tying into the porn theater? His personal ad? From a comic from before he was born, in a scene that had nothing to do with the Joker? Cmon now, that is a HUGE stretch.

    The hair, not the same color even.

    So all we have is this second hand report that he said he was the Joker when the police got there. Mind you, nothing else in his behavior parallels the Joker whatsoever.

    I'll ask again, what exactly are you basing your knowledge of the Joker persona on? Because Holmes has not acted like him in any way really.
     
  7. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

    Messages:
    25,472
    Likes Received:
    10,659
    Trophy Points:
    113
    TV as a kid - no not into it at all but when I went to (the other day) looking for writers creations and back stories for the character it gave me the willy nilliyes i mean seriously look at the nuance he picked up JH in the character did you see the post with all the stuff really neat creepy stuff! as a whole piece!
     
  8. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

    Messages:
    25,472
    Likes Received:
    10,659
    Trophy Points:
    113
    AYH ha! (smile now) James Holmes did not do any o fthis ....

    It was the joker...............................that joker is smart and a planner!
     
  9. newsleuther

    newsleuther New Member

    Messages:
    217
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    Like what?

    I've read the comics my entire life.

    JH has not acted like the Joker at all. Not before, during or after the shooting.
     
  10. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

    Messages:
    25,472
    Likes Received:
    10,659
    Trophy Points:
    113
    AH hay again! (Smile again) the joker always carried lots of guns, dressed in a unique way, and was out to inflict as much mayhem as possible just like in his backstories since the 40's!

    A ha! Smile one more time!
     
  11. CARIIS

    CARIIS Spelling Bee Winner - Kindergarden!

    Messages:
    25,472
    Likes Received:
    10,659
    Trophy Points:
    113
    James did not need all that the jokers likes that kind of stuff -- the stuff was not bullet proof it was a vest where ya could stick some stuff in it ----OUTFIT! that old look like the joker get up!
     
  12. newsleuther

    newsleuther New Member

    Messages:
    217
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    The Joker most certainly did not always carry a lot of guns. Occasionally one revolver.

    Don't know where you got that one from.
     
  13. newsleuther

    newsleuther New Member

    Messages:
    217
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I think a lot of the ammo was actually used in his apartment for the booby traps.

    One report said he had buckets full of ammo rigged up as well.
     
  14. newsleuther

    newsleuther New Member

    Messages:
    217
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    How does this (along with an all black outfit):
    [​IMG]

    Look like this:
    [​IMG]
     
  15. February

    February Member

    Messages:
    928
    Likes Received:
    6
    Trophy Points:
    18
    Hello!

    i like your theory... simple --- he is mentally ill and a joker :)

    i have lots of theories lol :pullhair: :pullhair: :pullhair:
     
  16. HastingsChi

    HastingsChi Well-Known Member

    Messages:
    2,190
    Likes Received:
    98
    Trophy Points:
    48
    I can't fathom the notion that people would post things with no factual basis and could never imagine someone having their idea completely debunked by facts and still incoherently rambling about it... That could never happen, not here...
    :D

    Sent from my Samsung Galaxy S 2
     
  17. rollinginit

    rollinginit Active Member

    Messages:
    1,518
    Likes Received:
    9
    Trophy Points:
    38
    A little ot but somewhat related............my daughter has dark hair like jh. I remember when she was 14 and her and her friends had a grand idea to make her a blonde. Lol. Trust me, it was NOWHERE near a pretty blonde. It was an orange color, just like jh's hair in court and the mugshot. Her hair is curly and thick....so the orange color was actually in splotches.

    Jh's hair either looks like 3 things.......he put blonde dye in his dark hair...uh oh, he put some sun-in in his hair (that stuff will turn your hair orange) or he poured pure peroxide in his hair. maybe 4 if you count chlorine pool water that has excessive amounts in the pool.

    I was just in walmart this morning looking at hair colors........there were NONE for orange hair. There was a bright red, blue, and a hot pink.

    IMO...I think he was trying to dye his hair really blonde.
     
  18. shadowraiths

    shadowraiths LISK Liaison, Verified Forensic Psychology Special Staff Member Moderator

    Messages:
    2,876
    Likes Received:
    127
    Trophy Points:
    63
    Actually, I didn't say anything about it in the aforementioned post, other than to post a link clarifying that campus police are considered "police" and that the university of california has a similar setup.

    Regardless, I disagree that she necessarily needed to call 911, since she did contact campus police. The big however, is, I'm guessing, she contacted them in context of their BETA Team program, as opposed to contacting them to place him on a 72 hour hold.

    That said, I would still like to hear more. For example, why she felt he might be a threat to others, but at the same time, chose not to put him on a 72 hour hold.

    Hindsight is, unfortunately, 20/20, so am sure, even if/when we do learn what caused her to contact BETA Team members, there'll likely be disagreements wrt whether she should have gone to the next step (i.e., the 72 hour hold).

    I personally, think he said/did something to scare her, and that she may have minimized her reaction... you know, the old "maybe I'm over reacting" second guessing. Hence, she contacted the BETA Team to touch base... reality check, so to speak. In the end, it's tough to tell. Again, hindsight is 20/20.
     
  19. newsleuther

    newsleuther New Member

    Messages:
    217
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I have dark hair myself and that is actually the color my hair turned when I tried to lighten it at home. Bright orange. you may be on to something there, lol
     
  20. newsleuther

    newsleuther New Member

    Messages:
    217
    Likes Received:
    0
    Trophy Points:
    0
    I agree. Right now, everyone can coulda/shoulda/woulda knowing what happened. But we have no idea what he told her that alarmed her, how much she knew, or how he was truly acting at the time.
     

Share This Page



  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice