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8th October 2013
Prabhdeeps sister Mandeep very kindly answered some questions which were posted to her regarding the Search for Prabhdeep.
The conversation was listed in the (Prabhdeep's) Discussion Thread - but it has invaluable insight into what has been going on and the continuation of the search in the last quarter months of 2013 ... It is posted in this thread in full for reference and resource:
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Questions Submitted:
Firstly,
I recently read in a Main Stream Media Report that you may not be coming back to Australia for the search when it resumes – are you yet to make a decision regarding this?
Quote from the News Article: Source Link...
The family returned to Canada last month, but Ms Srawn said she not sure if they’d return to Australia.
1) How are your plans coming along for the November Search in Australia?
When do you expect to start this next stage of your Search?
2) Do you have a new strategy of approach for this next stage of the Search?
Are there things you will do differently regarding the search, when you return?
3) What has been happening on the ground with the search around Mount Kosciuszko since you returned to Canada from Australia?
Have the searches continued?
4) Will your next search cover the same areas (now that the snow is receding), or do you plan to cover different territories?
5) What areas have been searched so far?
6) Have any further clues or information surfaced during the winter break as to where Prabh went and where he might be?
7) Will you be using specialists in any particular area or skill for the search when it resumes this time?
8) We read an article posted by one of the Australian Dog Handlers about his time on the search with his dog.
Was that search area followed up at a later stage? Did the New Zealand team of Dog Searchers have any luck?
9) You have been asking for volunteers for the next Search – how is that coming along?
What has the response been like? How many volunteers do you hope to have to help you in the upcoming months?
10) What requirements do volunteers need to have to help with the search?
11) Have the Australian Authorities offered you any help regarding the next Search on your return? Will you be involving them at any stage?
12) What were some of the major logistic obstacles you found the most difficult during the last Search?
13) How long do you plan to stay in Australia this time?
14) What do you need people to know about Prabhdeep beyond what has been reported in msm?
15) What can people do to help you in the upcoming months?
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Reply From Mandeep:
Thank you all. Please keep Prabh in your prayers.
As for returning, I was speaking about myself. Someone from the family will definitely return but I'm not sure who or how many this time.
Our search is always ongoing. There are several hikers who visit the area for leisure and have offered assistance or asked for more information. Unfortunately, no one has had any luck. We're looking for new people to search every minute we can and are still offering the daily stipend provided they take a spot tracker or provide us with GPS tracks of what they were able to cover. We have a couple hikers we've developed a close relationship with and were able to continue sending them out.
The reason November was stated is because the NSW police and National Parks plan on searching again for Prabh.
Regarding the searched area, I can provide maps of what was covered. Since I've taken pictures of our maps, please forgive me if its unclear what area it is. Unfortunately, there have been no clues as to Prabhs location other than his telephone pings and possible voice (possible b/c we haven't been able to confirm whether it was even human or a dog in the distance).
I'm not exactly what specialists you're referring to? We've had private teams and investigators as well as a kanine unit. As for the Australian Handlers' dog did pick up a scent and the dog couldn't go any further as a result of the tough terrain. 4 men then descended the mountain where the scent was picked up along a creek line and did not come across anything. However, the area is large, it was just a general direction in an area between valleys (between the 'N' and 'W' on the map).
We then hired a canine unit from New Zealand that had 3 dogs in hopes to see if they could narrow down the area further, however neither of these dogs picked up any scent at all in that direction. This could be for one of two reasons. 1) The Australian canine unit was an urban dog and could've mistaken the scent for animals such as a wombat hole near by or 2) The wind was incredibly strong coming from the NW with the Australian handles and with the NZ team, the wind wasn't as strong. We believe it to be the first option because we did take the 3 dogs to higher peaks after searching the same area as the previous dog, Mount Townsend, Abbots Peak and Alice Rawsons in hopes the scent may have risen and would be easier to pick up from above and again there was no luck no scent.
Our search was without snow for several weeks after the official search was called off. Once the NSW police decided to call off the search it rained heavily for 4 days straight with warm temperatures. When we began searching there wasn't any snow on the ground. We had several obstacles, the telephone information being withheld from us, not having access to helicopters, then not being allowed to land the helicopter, the heavy fog making visibility to zero, etc. We had several obstacles.
As for volunteers, we ask that they are experienced hikers (with alpine/snow experience), have all their equipment (tent, shoes, pants, GPS, etc), don`t go alone, take an emergency beacon with them and register with National Parks on their intended route.
I hope I've answered all or most of your questions. I can send the telephone ping information and the theory behind the voices in another post to avoid confusion.
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A big Thankyou to Mandeep for taking the time to answer the questions for us.
The Maps that Mandeep provided are in the posts below.
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Prabhdeeps sister Mandeep very kindly answered some questions which were posted to her regarding the Search for Prabhdeep.
The conversation was listed in the (Prabhdeep's) Discussion Thread - but it has invaluable insight into what has been going on and the continuation of the search in the last quarter months of 2013 ... It is posted in this thread in full for reference and resource:
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Questions Submitted:
Firstly,
I recently read in a Main Stream Media Report that you may not be coming back to Australia for the search when it resumes – are you yet to make a decision regarding this?
Quote from the News Article: Source Link...
The family returned to Canada last month, but Ms Srawn said she not sure if they’d return to Australia.
1) How are your plans coming along for the November Search in Australia?
When do you expect to start this next stage of your Search?
2) Do you have a new strategy of approach for this next stage of the Search?
Are there things you will do differently regarding the search, when you return?
3) What has been happening on the ground with the search around Mount Kosciuszko since you returned to Canada from Australia?
Have the searches continued?
4) Will your next search cover the same areas (now that the snow is receding), or do you plan to cover different territories?
5) What areas have been searched so far?
6) Have any further clues or information surfaced during the winter break as to where Prabh went and where he might be?
7) Will you be using specialists in any particular area or skill for the search when it resumes this time?
8) We read an article posted by one of the Australian Dog Handlers about his time on the search with his dog.
Was that search area followed up at a later stage? Did the New Zealand team of Dog Searchers have any luck?
9) You have been asking for volunteers for the next Search – how is that coming along?
What has the response been like? How many volunteers do you hope to have to help you in the upcoming months?
10) What requirements do volunteers need to have to help with the search?
11) Have the Australian Authorities offered you any help regarding the next Search on your return? Will you be involving them at any stage?
12) What were some of the major logistic obstacles you found the most difficult during the last Search?
13) How long do you plan to stay in Australia this time?
14) What do you need people to know about Prabhdeep beyond what has been reported in msm?
15) What can people do to help you in the upcoming months?
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Reply From Mandeep:
Thank you all. Please keep Prabh in your prayers.
As for returning, I was speaking about myself. Someone from the family will definitely return but I'm not sure who or how many this time.
Our search is always ongoing. There are several hikers who visit the area for leisure and have offered assistance or asked for more information. Unfortunately, no one has had any luck. We're looking for new people to search every minute we can and are still offering the daily stipend provided they take a spot tracker or provide us with GPS tracks of what they were able to cover. We have a couple hikers we've developed a close relationship with and were able to continue sending them out.
The reason November was stated is because the NSW police and National Parks plan on searching again for Prabh.
Regarding the searched area, I can provide maps of what was covered. Since I've taken pictures of our maps, please forgive me if its unclear what area it is. Unfortunately, there have been no clues as to Prabhs location other than his telephone pings and possible voice (possible b/c we haven't been able to confirm whether it was even human or a dog in the distance).
I'm not exactly what specialists you're referring to? We've had private teams and investigators as well as a kanine unit. As for the Australian Handlers' dog did pick up a scent and the dog couldn't go any further as a result of the tough terrain. 4 men then descended the mountain where the scent was picked up along a creek line and did not come across anything. However, the area is large, it was just a general direction in an area between valleys (between the 'N' and 'W' on the map).
We then hired a canine unit from New Zealand that had 3 dogs in hopes to see if they could narrow down the area further, however neither of these dogs picked up any scent at all in that direction. This could be for one of two reasons. 1) The Australian canine unit was an urban dog and could've mistaken the scent for animals such as a wombat hole near by or 2) The wind was incredibly strong coming from the NW with the Australian handles and with the NZ team, the wind wasn't as strong. We believe it to be the first option because we did take the 3 dogs to higher peaks after searching the same area as the previous dog, Mount Townsend, Abbots Peak and Alice Rawsons in hopes the scent may have risen and would be easier to pick up from above and again there was no luck no scent.
Our search was without snow for several weeks after the official search was called off. Once the NSW police decided to call off the search it rained heavily for 4 days straight with warm temperatures. When we began searching there wasn't any snow on the ground. We had several obstacles, the telephone information being withheld from us, not having access to helicopters, then not being allowed to land the helicopter, the heavy fog making visibility to zero, etc. We had several obstacles.
As for volunteers, we ask that they are experienced hikers (with alpine/snow experience), have all their equipment (tent, shoes, pants, GPS, etc), don`t go alone, take an emergency beacon with them and register with National Parks on their intended route.
I hope I've answered all or most of your questions. I can send the telephone ping information and the theory behind the voices in another post to avoid confusion.
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A big Thankyou to Mandeep for taking the time to answer the questions for us.
The Maps that Mandeep provided are in the posts below.
.