- May 24, 2012
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There is a new article out today in The Australian. (paraphrased in case it is paywalled)
Says that it has been 6 weeks now, since the poisonings.
The police and their toxicologists have known for weeks now that death cap mushrooms are the odds-on cause of the deaths. The scientific argument seems to be about how many mushrooms and other precise details ... EP fueled speculation when she stated an Asian grocery store and a mainstream supermarket chain were the suppliers.
The guests arrived at midday on 29th July.
Reason for the catch-up is still unknown (to the media).
In country towns, avoiding ex-family is hard, so everyone tries to get along.
Simon Patterson is well liked in the community. Volunteers as a photographer and basketball coach.
The police have the dumped dehydrator.
Nothing really new in the article, just a rehash of all of the things that we know ... very slow and agonising deaths, probably renal and liver failure, EP's childhood and the driving offences, etc etc. (No mention of a 'death wall', thank goodness.)
The above article says that there is a clearer picture now on whether or not charges will be laid
I think it is A. At least that's how read it.HELP WANTED in interp'ing one sentence in "Results" below:
"Amanita phalloides was falsely identified, twice by Picture Mushroom and once by iNaturalist."
Does this ^ mean---
A. Some AP mushrooms were falsely identified as other species (presumably edible/safe), twice by one app and once by another app?
B. Other mushroom species were falsely identified as APs, twice by one app and once by another app?
Yes I was trying to read between the lines but nothing seems much clearer to me.I'm glad to hear it is much clearer to the detectives!
The article doesn't make it any clearer. Not even any hints that I can see (that is, if the journos are hearing anything from their police sources, off the record).
Point of my long post above?
Can foragers depend on Mushroom-Identifying apps to help them make the right choices?
A user may use app (to try) to select:
--- edible/safe mushrooms.
--- toxic mushrooms, likely to be fatal.
Seems even experienced mushroom foragers w one or more M-I apps and a shelf full of mushroom books may not pick the category of mushrooms they actually want.
Did EP's Beef Wellingon contain mushrooms she had foraged? IDK.
snipped for focus. @JBowie....Some legal eagles are of the opinion that proving intent will be a hard task....
I get the sense that with EP’s overinflated opinion of herself, she believes her story is so watertight that either it will be (a) completely accepted as a truth or, (b) introduce so many elements that raise doubt or opportunity for someone else to have been involved, that she will get off all together. Going with this, she would have been almost above accepting any advice annd insist her lawyers and put out the statement she did.snipped
<Wouldn't the usual defense plan be to first let the prosecution make their case, then try to poke holes in the evidence? I understand her attorney has a pretty good reputation. But still, I find it puzzling. It just doesn't seem like good strategy. Either he must really believe her or she was very insistent on putting it out.>
One thing that I find surprising is that EP's lawyer allowed her to submit that second statement to the police. She could always claim she was scared and under duress for any untruths in her first statement. But she can't use that excuse for inconsistencies in the second one.
It commits her defense to a very specific delineation of what occurred. Even in the excerpts that made it into the press there were a lot of details in terms of where the ingredients were procured, what foods were prepared and how they were served, what the children ate, and so on.
Wouldn't the usual defense plan be to first let the prosecution make their case, then try to poke holes in the evidence? I understand her attorney has a pretty good reputation. But still, I find it puzzling. It just doesn't seem like good strategy. Either he must really believe her or she was very insistent on putting it out.