Australia Australia - William Tyrrell, 3, Kendall, NSW, 12 Sep 2014 - #71

[Mauig’ma]

If you zoom in there’s no white neckline it’s just his neck.

In your opinion. Not mine. Imo when I zoomed in all I saw was white. Again moo

 

[Couldbe]

JMO - Note the white neckline in each of these photos;
......... as opposed to NO white neckline in the iconic photo of William:

NOTE ALSO: The differences between 1104jpg and 1105jpg .... with regard to the drink bottle next to William's sister / and also the position of the pram in relation to the screen door.

 

[Mauig’ma]

I googled these pics before to get a clearer view. When you can see them individually, the white bits that you can see in these smaller is actually just skin

I haven’t seen any googled ones that are any different than the ones posted above. Would you mind guiding me to an example of one you’re referring to? Tyia

 

[T-dawg420]

NOTE ALSO: The differences between 1104jpg and 1105jpg .... with regard to the drink bottle next to William's sister / and also the position of the pram in relation to the screen door.

is there a 2 min difference between the two? To me it appears Williams sister has moved and may have knocked the water bottle over? Also note Williams position has moved in between those two pics as well. In the 1105 pic he is now facing the camera, which has moved positions as well imo

 

[Doesitmakesense]

I haven’t seen any googled ones that are any different than the ones posted above. Would you mind guiding me to an example of one you’re referring to? Tyia

This is from this ABC article New photos of William Tyrrell released five years after disappearance

 

[Mauig’ma]

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This is from this ABC article New photos of William Tyrrell released five years after disappearance

Maybe it’s just me. I still see a white tee underneath. It very well could be his skin. Doesn’t look like it to me. Moo

 

[Couldbe]

is there a 2 min difference between the two? To me it appears Williams sister has moved and may have knocked the water bottle over? Also note Williams position has moved in between those two pics as well. In the 1105 pic he is now facing the camera, which has moved positions as well imo

Yes T-dawg420, there is 2 min difference between the two. I trying to find the times for the other 2 photos (1102jpg and 1103jpg), because those times would be relevant ..... in establishing whether the photos may have been downloaded to the camera from another source on that morning of William's disappearance?
It may well be that the time difference of 2 mins could be the actual time that it takes to download one photo ... until the next photo is downloaded? JMO

 

[JLZ]

NOTE ALSO: The differences between 1104jpg and 1105jpg .... with regard to the drink bottle next to William's sister / and also the position of the pram in relation to the screen door.

The position of the pram is unchanged. The photographer has moved to the other side of the patio: a change of angle of maybe 70 degrees. See the floorboards.

 

[Couldbe]

The position of the pram is unchanged. The photographer has moved to the other side of the patio: a change of angle of maybe 70 degrees. See the floorboards.

Thank you for pointing that out JLZ.

 

[SouthAussie]

is there a 2 min difference between the two? To me it appears Williams sister has moved and may have knocked the water bottle over? Also note Williams position has moved in between those two pics as well. In the 1105 pic he is now facing the camera, which has moved positions as well imo

The 5 photos that were released by the Coroner were taken within a 2min 39sec timespan.

9:35:05 (photo 1102)
9:35:19 (photo 1103)
9:35:28 (photo 1104)
9:37:29 (photo 1105)
9:37:44 (the famous pic)

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/william-tyrrell-new-photos-released-to-five-years-after-little-boy-disappeared/news-story/9a45ac6b77df80787e601878974b826c

Janet Fife-Yeomans (chief reporter at DT) says that the photo metadata has been confirmed, that the times are accurate, in her article dated 14/4/22. She does not quote a source for this info.
Her comment says ..... "Metadata has confirmed the photograph was indeed taken at that time after questions during the inquest into William’s disappearance that it may have been taken two hours earlier."

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Caroline Overington also seems to indicate that the metadata has been confirmed, in her article of 19/11/21.
She says .... "But William was photographed in his now famous Spider-Man suit at 9.37am, meaning he must have still been alive when his foster father left the house, or else he couldn’t have been in that picture."

Behind the silence lies so much pain, and so many questions

Close to giving up, or giving in.

amp.theaustralian.com.au

 

[JBowie]

No need to link again the ABC claim that the CC hearing is to do with William's disappearance. A member has asked the relevant journo why they said that ... AFAIK no response has been received.

I am that member and, as yet, no response from the ABC.

 

[Curiouser+Curiouser]

"It's hard to put into detail what happened because I had to say it so many times to so many people and I know there is so many people who want to know the exact details and those sorts of things but it's just so personal for us...it's just our last time with him and I feel like I want to keep a lot of those really special memories for us personal, they're our family memories and I know people want to know more but I just, I've just got to keep some things private and special it's just as the time goes on with the whole thing it's just really hard now to keep talking about what happened on that morning"

From the Where's William podcast.

Sounds like obfuscation to me.

 

[Curiouser+Curiouser]

I am that member and, as yet, no response from the ABC.

Have all the journos been silenced though? Or is it only some topics?

 

[Curiouser+Curiouser]

It would be interesting to know if FM is still a POI. The police do not seem to be in the habit of promptly telling the public when a POI has been cleared, and I think we might have to wait for the Coronial Report to find out.


"Although the foster mother was initially ruled out as a suspect, she became a person of interest for a period of time last year."

William Tyrrell's foster mother to plead not guilty to misleading crime commission

The 56-year-old is accused of giving false evidence during a hearing into the disappearance of William Tyrrell from his foster grandmother's home in 2014.

www.abc.net.au

Given they were charged with lying and intimidation (please remove if not allowed) I'd imagine the FP are very much in the frame. Let's face it, they've ruled out everyone in the street, all the people they threw in as distractions (eg. Spedding) and the biological parents. The cars were a red herring.
Not to mention that when the FM gets going she sounds like Amber Heard on speed. Talk about word salad. You listen and it all just wishy washies away to sound and fury. Jubelin was charmed poor (edited from word meaning) illegitimate child.

 

[Detective Willy]

Sounds like obfuscation to me.

Yes agree.

This statement from FM is bananas.

 

[Curiouser+Curiouser]

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I think the Foster GM spoke some truths and their in lies the inconsistency in the story and timeline of events.

Its too convenient to say she has Dementia/Alzheimer's. My mum is similar age and her memory does get affected by stress. So time frames and order of events can get muddled. But in her walk through she certainly had clarity to answer the policewoman's questions I wouldn't necessarily discount her whole testimony.

That's interesting. Who brought up dementia? That would be convenient.

 

[JBowie]

Have all the journos been silenced though? Or is it only some topics?

I guess the ABC receives lots of questions each week, however, I am not really expecting a reply to my question. (The only journo who has ever replied to a contact from me was Kate McClymont at the SMH.)

 

[Curiouser+Curiouser]

I've never heard anyone describe events like the FFC. It's very weird, almost like she's reading her diary entries.

People who speak like that are sometimes very manipulative. They know that if they get talking rubbish for long enough, you'll give up and go away. You can't pin them down and they'll talk through wet cement.

 

[Couldbe]

The 5 photos that were released by the Coroner were taken within a 2min 39sec timespan.

9:35:05 (photo 1102)
9:35:19 (photo 1103)
9:35:28 (photo 1104)
9:37:29 (photo 1105)
9:37:44 (the famous pic)

https://www.theaustralian.com.au/nation/william-tyrrell-new-photos-released-to-five-years-after-little-boy-disappeared/news-story/9a45ac6b77df80787e601878974b826c

Janet Fife-Yeomans (chief reporter at DT) says that the photo metadata has been confirmed, that the times are accurate, in her article dated 14/4/22. She does not quote a source for this info.
Her comment says ..... "Metadata has confirmed the photograph was indeed taken at that time after questions during the inquest into William’s disappearance that it may have been taken two hours earlier."

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Caroline Overington also seems to indicate that the metadata has been confirmed, in her article of 19/11/21.
She says .... "But William was photographed in his now famous Spider-Man suit at 9.37am, meaning he must have still been alive when his foster father left the house, or else he couldn’t have been in that picture."

Behind the silence lies so much pain, and so many questions

Close to giving up, or giving in.

amp.theaustralian.com.au

Thank you for the links SA.
So the 'iconic' photo of William roaring was snapped and recorded 15 seconds after photo 1105jpg(depicting him with a crayon in his hand doing his drawing) .

 

[Curiouskatz11]

That's interesting. Who brought up dementia? That would be convenient.

Yes, where did the idea that FGM had dementia come from? I’ve never been able to find it out.

The lady in the walkthrough did not appear either physically or mentally impaired. She seemed very well for her age.

She seems to have been a keen newspaper reader. Interested in the world and her community.

I don’t understand why her version of events was so readily dismissed. That aspects of her recount contradict that of the foster carers should have been a red flag.